Obamacare Kicking In (And The People Like It So Far!!)

[Flopper]

In other words, there's no need for this bill since parents will pay for their kid's insurance anyway. Is that what you're saying?

No. How easily you forget. Without the healthcare bill, preexisting conditions apply, so a separate policy may not be an option because of cost. Young people in their early 20’s are often working in low paid temp or part time positions where there is no group policy and full coverage policies are well beyond their income. So yes, there is a need for this feature of the law.

So a insurance company will give someone insurance even though they have cancer, or a heart condition? Should we also force insurance company's to give life insurance to people who are in coma?

If you are a high risk, you buy your insurance through a high risk pool.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

no. How easily you forget. Without the healthcare bill, preexisting conditions apply, so a separate policy may not be an option because of cost. Young people in their early 20’s are often working in low paid temp or part time positions where there is no group policy and full coverage policies are well beyond their income. So yes, there is a need for this feature of the law.

so a insurance company will give someone insurance even though they have cancer, or a heart condition? Should we also force insurance company's to give life insurance to people who are in coma?

if you are a high risk, you buy your insurance through a high risk pool.

after someone dies it places a hardship on the family without life insurence should we also force people to buy life insurence that are on their death beds?

 

[Flopper]

so a insurance company will give someone insurance even though they have cancer, or a heart condition? Should we also force insurance company's to give life insurance to people who are in coma?

if you are a high risk, you buy your insurance through a high risk pool.

after someone dies it places a hardship on the family without life insurence should we also force people to buy life insurence that are on their death beds?

If someone dies without life insurance it may or may not be devastating to the family. If someone contracts a serious disease and has no insurance, it's not just the family that's hurt, it's often the medical service providers who pass the cost on to all patients and the tax payer.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

if you are a high risk, you buy your insurance through a high risk pool.

after someone dies it places a hardship on the family without life insurence should we also force people to buy life insurence that are on their death beds?

If someone dies without life insurance it may or may not be devastating to the family. If someone contracts a serious disease and has no insurance, it's not just the family that's hurt, it's often the medical service providers who pass the cost on to all patients and the tax payer.

Horse fucking shit plain old everyday fucking horse shit.
If a loved one dies it places hardship on the family fincally at least. No money coming in that use to be there, kind of like America's tax payers. So who will pay for their debt? House payment cedit cards? Replacement of the income thats no longer there?

 

[Vanquish]

Weaksauce...again.

Translation:

I can't attack any of the shit you said, so I'll just throw terms around that I think make me sound cool.

Oh wait! You called me on my shit. I'll repeat the same shit again.

Either respond or don't dude. No one's holding a gun to your head. Otherwise you're a waste of space.

I'm sorry that I blew your mind and proved to you that Obamacare is better than the current system of healthcare...and did it so succinctly. I know it's hard to grasp that much awesome when you can't really think for yourself. That's not my problem.

If you can attack something I said...do it. I welcome it. I'll listen...and address what you say directly. Otherwise, get the fuck out of the thread and stop wasting my time.

To quickly sum up your lame bullshit:

Why are you applauding someone who can't make a decent argument?

Somone who posts a weak-ass cartoon because they can't even explain their assertion that I'm posting straw men.

Clapping for this guy only makes your forum worse. Good fucking job.

It's entertaining to post something and have someone oppose it without being able to attack what you actually said. It means they suck.

 

[Full-Auto]

To quickly sum up your lame bullshit:

Why are you applauding someone who can't make a decent argument?

Somone who posts a weak-ass cartoon because they can't even explain their assertion that I'm posting straw men.

Clapping for this guy only makes your forum worse. Good fucking job.

It's entertaining to post something and have someone oppose it without being able to attack what you actually said. It means they suck.

A picture is worth a thousand words. The left creating strawman arguments I have witnessed time and again. An example would be 46 to 50 million uninsured.

 

[Vanquish]

Great deflection, FA.

I never said that. Making what you're saying it's OWN straw man.

How about someone actually addressing what the fuck I said...not some extraneous bullshit.

Great job making your forum an even crappier place.

 

[Brutus]

Obamacare Kicking In (And The People Like It So Far!!)

you mean the people not paying like it because they are ripping off others that do pay!! Last year costs went up 9%; an average family now pays $15,000 a year!

Its perfect socialist redistribution with not a hint of Republican capitalist cost savings. Health care is the perfect example of socialism for the whole world to see. It can sink our entire economy!

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Did i set up a bunch of weak ass strawmen? Nope, that was you, rdeanlite.......

Post something concrete to support the bullshit YOU posted or go back to your haberdashery business.........

Weaksauce...again.

Translation:

I can't attack any of the shit you said, so I'll just throw terms around that I think make me sound cool.

Oh wait! You called me on my shit. I'll repeat the same shit again.

Either respond or don't dude. No one's holding a gun to your head. Otherwise you're a waste of space.

I'm sorry that I blew your mind and proved to you that Obamacare is better than the current system of healthcare...and did it so succinctly. I know it's hard to grasp that much awesome when you can't really think for yourself. That's not my problem.

If you can attack something I said...do it. I welcome it. I'll listen...and address what you say directly. Otherwise, get the fuck out of the thread and stop wasting my time.

To quickly sum up your lame bullshit:

where's the gun? That isn't a real GOP strawman unless it's holding a gun

 

[Brutus]

proved that Obamacare is better than the current system of healthcare...and did it so succinctly.

could you prove that again please. Thanks

 

[bigrebnc1775]

proved that Obamacare is better than the current system of healthcare...and did it so succinctly.

could you prove that again please. Thanks

You need to read who posted the comment you have me quoting something I never said.

 

[Brutus]

proved that Obamacare is better than the current system of healthcare...and did it so succinctly.

could you prove that again please. Thanks

You need to read who posted the comment you have me quoting something I never said.

sorry, does anyone care to defend BO care?

 

[Zona]

if you are a high risk, you buy your insurance through a high risk pool.

after someone dies it places a hardship on the family without life insurence should we also force people to buy life insurence that are on their death beds?

If someone dies without life insurance it may or may not be devastating to the family. If someone contracts a serious disease and has no insurance, it's not just the family that's hurt, it's often the medical service providers who pass the cost on to all patients and the tax payer.

Wow..can someone from the right dispute this? Seriously, can you?

 

[Zona]

could you prove that again please. Thanks

You need to read who posted the comment you have me quoting something I never said.

sorry, does anyone care to defend BO care?

WEll, everyone who had pre existing conditions who were not turned away will defend...even it they are republicans.

People who are 23 or 24 and who had a hard..hard time getting it because they were in school, or whatever, appreciate it. Now they can get on their parents policy.

What say you to them?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

after someone dies it places a hardship on the family without life insurence should we also force people to buy life insurence that are on their death beds?

If someone dies without life insurance it may or may not be devastating to the family. If someone contracts a serious disease and has no insurance, it's not just the family that's hurt, it's often the medical service providers who pass the cost on to all patients and the tax payer.

Wow..can someone from the right dispute this? Seriously, can you?

I did stupid

after someone dies it places a hardship on the family without life insurence should we also force people to buy life insurence that are on their death beds?

If someone dies without life insurance it may or may not be devastating to the family. If someone contracts a serious disease and has no insurance, it's not just the family that's hurt, it's often the medical service providers who pass the cost on to all patients and the tax payer.

Horse fucking shit plain old everyday fucking horse shit.
If a loved one dies it places hardship on the family fincally at least. No money coming in that use to be there, kind of like America's tax payers. So who will pay for their debt? House payment cedit cards? Replacement of the income thats no longer there?

 

[Flopper]

after someone dies it places a hardship on the family without life insurence should we also force people to buy life insurence that are on their death beds?

If someone dies without life insurance it may or may not be devastating to the family. If someone contracts a serious disease and has no insurance, it's not just the family that's hurt, it's often the medical service providers who pass the cost on to all patients and the tax payer.

Horse fucking shit plain old everyday fucking horse shit.
If a loved one dies it places hardship on the family fincally at least. No money coming in that use to be there, kind of like America's tax payers. So who will pay for their debt? House payment cedit cards? Replacement of the income thats no longer there?

I don't have a nickels worth of life insurance because my family doesn't need it. My wife is provide for and my kids earn more money than me. Why does a single person with no liabilities need life insurance? Millions of Americans have no life insurance because they don't need.

Health insurance is quite different. Unless you have millions to cover a possible devastating illness. Healthcare bills can wipe out everything the family has and leave unpaid bills that we will all end up paying through higher healthcare cost.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

If someone dies without life insurance it may or may not be devastating to the family. If someone contracts a serious disease and has no insurance, it's not just the family that's hurt, it's often the medical service providers who pass the cost on to all patients and the tax payer.

Horse fucking shit plain old everyday fucking horse shit.
If a loved one dies it places hardship on the family fincally at least. No money coming in that use to be there, kind of like America's tax payers. So who will pay for their debt? House payment cedit cards? Replacement of the income thats no longer there?

I don't have a nickels worth of life insurance because my family doesn't need it. My wife is provide for and my kids earn more money than me. Why does a single person with no liabilities need life insurance? Millions of Americans have no life insurance because they don't need.

Health insurance is quite different. Unless you have millions to cover a possible devastating illness. Healthcare bills can wipe out everything the family has and leave unpaid bills that we will all end up paying through higher healthcare cost.

OH I see the old worn out liberal talking point doesn't work with this equation.

What aboput all those medical bills for people without healthcare coverage? How will all those other bills get taken care of when a lose income due to death?

 

[Flopper]

Horse fucking shit plain old everyday fucking horse shit.
If a loved one dies it places hardship on the family fincally at least. No money coming in that use to be there, kind of like America's tax payers. So who will pay for their debt? House payment cedit cards? Replacement of the income thats no longer there?

I don't have a nickels worth of life insurance because my family doesn't need it. My wife is provide for and my kids earn more money than me. Why does a single person with no liabilities need life insurance? Millions of Americans have no life insurance because they don't need.

Health insurance is quite different. Unless you have millions to cover a possible devastating illness. Healthcare bills can wipe out everything the family has and leave unpaid bills that we will all end up paying through higher healthcare cost.

OH I see the old worn out liberal talking point doesn't work with this equation.

What aboput all those medical bills for people without healthcare coverage? How will all those other bills get taken care of when a lose income due to death?

Do actually have a point or you just babbling?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I don't have a nickels worth of life insurance because my family doesn't need it. My wife is provide for and my kids earn more money than me. Why does a single person with no liabilities need life insurance? Millions of Americans have no life insurance because they don't need.

Health insurance is quite different. Unless you have millions to cover a possible devastating illness. Healthcare bills can wipe out everything the family has and leave unpaid bills that we will all end up paying through higher healthcare cost.

OH I see the old worn out liberal talking point doesn't work with this equation.

What aboput all those medical bills for people without healthcare coverage? How will all those other bills get taken care of when a lose income due to death?

Do actually have a point or you just babbling?

This is where I get pissed and start cussing at how stupid some people can be, but I won't. Bills are bills and have to be repaid. Without life insurence who's going to pay for the house payment? because of the lose of an income? Since liberals thinks it's ok for the government to try and force people to buy healthcare coverage, because of healthcare cost and bills shouldn't the government aso force people to buy life insurence?

Don't stutter bitch I'll await your answer.

 

[Flopper]

OH I see the old worn out liberal talking point doesn't work with this equation.

What aboput all those medical bills for people without healthcare coverage? How will all those other bills get taken care of when a lose income due to death?

Do actually have a point or you just babbling?

This is where I get pissed and start cussing at how stupid some people can be, but I won't. Bills are bills and have to be repaid. Without life insurence who's going to pay for the house payment? because of the lose of an income? Since liberals thinks it's ok for the government to try and force people to buy healthcare coverage, because of healthcare cost and bills shouldn't the government aso force people to buy life insurence?

Don't stutter bitch I'll await your answer.

A young single person with no dependents or liabilities that dies without life insurance will cost society nothing other than a cheap burial. That same person who contracts a serious chronic disease can easy cost society hundreds of thousands of dollars and possibly millions. There are very few people that can afford to pay all their health care bills if they contract a very serious disease and don't have healthcare coverage. There are many people that have no dependents and no liabilities and thus have no need for life insurance and their death would be no financial burden for society.