Obama, Trump, Biden..Who to blame?

[Dadoalex]

they didn’t say it until march of 2021

I learned about the American Revolution around 1961.
I suppose it means it didn't happen till then.

Do try to be a little less stupid when called out for your lies.

 

[Dadoalex]

The Democrats (as always) decided not to take that route. Before a federal agent even showed up in Palestine the left were blaming President Trump. They had no idea what happened or why, just blame Trump because the theme of this presidency is to blame everybody or everything instead of Dementia.

Even now that the preliminary investigation revealed it was not the breaks, leftists on this service are still blaming President Trump.

The left likes to start these little wars and when they lose them, drop the entire subject.

You're lying and you know it.

EPA chief revisits Ohio derailment site as Republicans blast Biden

Republicans have criticised the Biden administration's response to the incident. Read more at straitstimes.com.

www.straitstimes.com

From 2/4/23 1 day after

"Former US president Donald Trump and some other Republicans have criticised the Biden administration’s handling of the derailment.

The administration in turn slammed Mr Trump and his Republicans for slackening rail safety and environmental protection measures when they ran the government."

Your guys lied and the Administration responded with the truth. OUCH!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You're lying and you know it.

EPA chief revisits Ohio derailment site as Republicans blast Biden

Republicans have criticised the Biden administration's response to the incident. Read more at straitstimes.com.

www.straitstimes.com

From 2/4/23 1 day after

"Former US president Donald Trump and some other Republicans have criticised the Biden administration’s handling of the derailment.

The administration in turn slammed Mr Trump and his Republicans for slackening rail safety and environmental protection measures when they ran the government."

Your guys lied and the Administration responded with the truth. OUCH!

You just posted a lie and try to tell me it's the truth?

For one we are talking about Dementia's response to the accident, not try to blame him for the accident itself which is what I was talking about. Two, you people got duped because now they changed it from "breaks" to "rail safety" and you bought it hook, line and sinker. Again, the accident was not caused by the brakes. But then again when has any Democrat told the truth.

 

[Dadoalex]

The reason Republicans are pointing fingers is because the Democrats pointed them first. How about nobody is really to blame and the part was defective beyond the point anybody could predict something go wrong?

We've been making cars for a hundred years now, and every year we have recalls of some sort. You would think that we would have the US automobile perfected by now, but we don't. And in ten or twenty years from now, we will continue to have recalls.

As others have already stated, it's less the blame of how the accident happen than it was the failed leadership after it happened. This is a small American town that votes 73% Republican and this President decided to give them minimum help because of it. When people's property and health are in jeopardy or destroyed, it's no time to play politics. It's no time to visit Ukraine pledging endless aid and not even stop by a town like Palestine to at least look over the situation to see what more the federal government can do for us instead of Ukraine.

Lying again...

Biden called DeWine and offered any help needed.
DeWine REFUSED TO MAKE A DISASTER DECLARATION
Which would have freed FEMA to provide assistance
Meanwhile
GOP clowns were blaming Biden for FOLLOWING THE LAW

You know, it's really not smart to lie when the truth is so readily available.

Regional Groups Demand Gov. DeWine Request Federal Aid in Response to Tristate Chemical Disaster

River Valley Organizing and neighboring community organizing groups in the tristate area released the statements below in regards to the train derailment on the Ohio-Pennsylvania state line. The accident caused the release of vinyl chloride and an explosion that left residents in need of...

www.commondreams.org

Days later and DeWine STILL hadn't declared a disaster.
He thought blaming Biden was more important that taking care of the people of Ohio.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Lying again...

Biden called DeWine and offered any help needed.
DeWine REFUSED TO MAKE A DISASTER DECLARATION
Which would have freed FEMA to provide assistance
Meanwhile
GOP clowns were blaming Biden for FOLLOWING THE LAW

You know, it's really not smart to lie when the truth is so readily available.

Regional Groups Demand Gov. DeWine Request Federal Aid in Response to Tristate Chemical Disaster

River Valley Organizing and neighboring community organizing groups in the tristate area released the statements below in regards to the train derailment on the Ohio-Pennsylvania state line. The accident caused the release of vinyl chloride and an explosion that left residents in need of...

www.commondreams.org

Days later and DeWine STILL hadn't declared a disaster.
He thought blaming Biden was more important that taking care of the people of Ohio.

Bullshit. The reason Biden is doing the bare minimum is because it's a heavily Republican town. They didn't vote for him and certainly won't in the future. Yeah, he had plenty of time to run to Ukraine and promised them endless billions of dollars to help them out, but didn't want to be too inconvenienced to stop in our state. That shows you how much he gives a shit. Hey, did Ukraine declare a disaster to get all that money? No, they gave his son a no-show job for $83,000 a month. That's why they are getting taxpayer money.

Rotunda Rumblings​

Recipe for disaster: U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown on Thursday asked Gov. Mike DeWine to officially declare a disaster in Ohio’s East Palestine after a train derailment released chemicals into its environment, Sabrina Eaton writes. A spokesman for the Republican governor said he already contacted the Federal Emergency Management Agency about a potential disaster declaration and was told the derailment wouldn’t qualify because there’s a lack of unreimbursed property damage of the sort caused by tornados, floods and earthquakes. Instead, DeWine plans to seek federal assistance from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services’ emergency response team.

Ohio officials seek emergency federal designation for East Palestine: Capitol Letter

Recipe for disaster: U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown on Thursday asked Gov. Mike DeWine to officially declare a disaster in Ohio’s East Palestine after a train derailment released chemicals into its environment, Sabrina Eaton writes.

www.cleveland.com

 

[Dadoalex]

You just posted a lie and try to tell me it's the truth?

For one we are talking about Dementia's response to the accident, not try to blame him for the accident itself which is what I was talking about. Two, you people got duped because now they changed it from "breaks" to "rail safety" and you bought it hook, line and sinker. Again, the accident was not caused by the brakes. But then again when has any Democrat told the truth.

You got caught in your lie.
With documented evidence.
Then you call the truth a lie?

BWAHAHAHAHA

What was the cause and how is it the rail companies are not responsible?

 

[Dadoalex]

Bullshit. The reason Biden is doing the bare minimum is because it's a heavily Republican town. They didn't vote for him and certainly won't in the future. Yeah, he had plenty of time to run to Ukraine and promised them endless billions of dollars to help them out, but didn't want to be too inconvenienced to stop in our state. That shows you how much he gives a shit. Hey, did Ukraine declare a disaster to get all that money? No, they gave his son a no-show job for $83,000 a month. That's why they are getting taxpayer money.

Rotunda Rumblings​

Recipe for disaster: U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown on Thursday asked Gov. Mike DeWine to officially declare a disaster in Ohio’s East Palestine after a train derailment released chemicals into its environment, Sabrina Eaton writes. A spokesman for the Republican governor said he already contacted the Federal Emergency Management Agency about a potential disaster declaration and was told the derailment wouldn’t qualify because there’s a lack of unreimbursed property damage of the sort caused by tornados, floods and earthquakes. Instead, DeWine plans to seek federal assistance from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services’ emergency response team.

Ohio officials seek emergency federal designation for East Palestine: Capitol Letter

Recipe for disaster: U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown on Thursday asked Gov. Mike DeWine to officially declare a disaster in Ohio’s East Palestine after a train derailment released chemicals into its environment, Sabrina Eaton writes.

www.cleveland.com

Check the date on your source...2 weeks AFTER the accident.

BWAHAHAHAHA

 

[Independentthinker]

So there was a train derailment in Ohio that threatens the lives and health of people in the region.

Some want to blame Obama for not creating strong enough regulations
Some want to blame Trump for rolling those regulations back
Some want to blame Biden because, well, he's the president now.

Why not blame the actual culprit, THE RAILROADS

These are the people with the greatest knowledge of and ability to make rail transport safer.
So why aren't we blaming them?
For the accident
For the lobbying
For the transport of the waste to location with no relation to either the accident or the railroad

Perhaps if we would look at root cause rather than take every opportunity to blame the other political side we might come to some agreement on preventing these incidents in the future.

How about the fact that accidents happen and they are just accidents and no one's fault? We have no-fault auto insurance. That's means some accidents are no fault. That applies to more than just cars. Yes, maybe we can learn something from this to make things safer in the future but that doesn't mean this incident was actually someone's fault.

 

[Dadoalex]

How about the fact that accidents happen and they are just accidents and no one's fault? We have no-fault auto insurance. That's means some accidents are no fault. That applies to more than just cars. Yes, maybe we can learn something from this to make things safer in the future but that doesn't mean this incident was actually someone's fault.

Accidents happen when someone does something they're not supposed to do or when someone fails to do something they are supposed to do.
Anything else is Force Majeure

Check the OP. I place the blame squarely where it belongs.
With the railroads who fight safety regulations to enhance profits with no concern for their employees or the people along their routes.

These people have you and I fighting and blaming one another while they sit in their penthouse offices laughing their asses off at both of us.

 

[Independentthinker]

Accidents happen when someone does something they're not supposed to do or when someone fails to do something they are supposed to do.
Anything else is Force Majeure

Check the OP. I place the blame squarely where it belongs.
With the railroads who fight safety regulations to enhance profits with no concern for their employees or the people along their routes.

These people have you and I fighting and blaming one another while they sit in their penthouse offices laughing their asses off at both of us.

What specific thing did the railroads do or not do? And don't make a general assumptions.

 

[Dadoalex]

What specific thing did the railroads do or not do? And don't make a general assumptions.

"A preliminary report from the East Palestine derailment, released Thursday by the National Transportation Safety Board, found hot box sensors detected that a wheel bearing was heating up miles before it eventually failed and caused the train to derail"

Was it an equipment failure
Was it a training failure?
Was it a lack of people on the train?

There was a warning, ignored, missed?

There ya go.

 

[struth]

I learned about the American Revolution around 1961.
I suppose it means it didn't happen till then.

Do try to be a little less stupid when called out for your lies.

did the chinese come to the united states prior to march 2021 and tell you or anyone we no longer came a position of strength?

seriously…you sound silly trying to twist this

 

[Dadoalex]

did the chinese come to the united states prior to march 2021 and tell you or anyone we no longer came a position of strength?

seriously…you sound silly trying to twist this

Please fool.
You're ignoring the actual content of your own post is...

Well, little one, you sound like a child who knocked the cookie jar off the cabinet and looks around for someone to blame

BWAHAHAHAHA

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You got caught in your lie.
With documented evidence.
Then you call the truth a lie?

BWAHAHAHAHA

What was the cause and how is it the rail companies are not responsible?

It's the same bullshit you guys did with global warming. That went on for many years until it was discovered the earth was not warming at all, so they switched it out to climate change? Why climate change? Because the climate has been changing since God made the place.

Nothing Trump changed had anything to do with this derailment. It's more blame shifting by the left. Every terrible thing happening to this country is never Dementia's fault. It's the Republicans fault, it's Russia's fault, it's Trump's fault. Name me one thing your party ever took responsibility for and said "We Fd up!" You can't in these past two years.

 

[pyetro]

So there was a train derailment in Ohio that threatens the lives and health of people in the region.

Some want to blame Obama for not creating strong enough regulations
Some want to blame Trump for rolling those regulations back
Some want to blame Biden because, well, he's the president now.

Why not blame the actual culprit, THE RAILROADS

These are the people with the greatest knowledge of and ability to make rail transport safer.
So why aren't we blaming them?
For the accident
For the lobbying
For the transport of the waste to location with no relation to either the accident or the railroad

Perhaps if we would look at root cause rather than take every opportunity to blame the other political side we might come to some agreement on preventing these incidents in the future.

Trump is to blame.

 

[Independentthinker]

"A preliminary report from the East Palestine derailment, released Thursday by the National Transportation Safety Board, found hot box sensors detected that a wheel bearing was heating up miles before it eventually failed and caused the train to derail"

Was it an equipment failure
Was it a training failure?
Was it a lack of people on the train?

There was a warning, ignored, missed?

There ya go.

So, you have no proof that someone did something wrong. All you have are a bunch of questions. Accidents happen.

 

[Dadoalex]

It's the same bullshit you guys did with global warming. That went on for many years until it was discovered the earth was not warming at all, so they switched it out to climate change? Why climate change? Because the climate has been changing since God made the place.

Nothing Trump changed had anything to do with this derailment. It's more blame shifting by the left. Every terrible thing happening to this country is never Dementia's fault. It's the Republicans fault, it's Russia's fault, it's Trump's fault. Name me one thing your party ever took responsibility for and said "We Fd up!" You can't in these past two years.

Perhaps going back and rereading the OP might help you understand this thread.

I'm not blaming Trump
I'm not blaming Biden

I blame the ones responsible, the railroad.

Your inability to view the world through anything but your partisan lens is your weakness and why I keep handing you your proverbial butt.

 

[Dadoalex]

Trump is to blame.

Was Trump driving the train?
Did Trump build the train?
Did Trump build the warning devices?
Did Trump maintain the track or train?

Answer the "who did" in those questions and you'll have your finger on the responsible party.

and

Those responsible have been successful at getting us to blame one another while they skate away unscathed.

 

[Dadoalex]

So, you have no proof that someone did something wrong. All you have are a bunch of questions. Accidents happen.

Once again for the stupid among us...

Accidents happen when someone does something they're not supposed to do or fails to do something they are supposed to do.
Everything else is Force Majeure.

Who was responsible for maintaining the overheated bearings?
Who was responsible for training the train personnel?
Who was responsible for maintaining the tracks?

Answer those questions and you'll have your culprit. the same culprit that has people blaming Biden or Trump rather than accepting responsibility.

 

[Meister]

Trump praises China
Trump manufactures his crap in China
Trump makes money from China

BUT in your mind
Joe biden is the one beholden to China...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Trump manufactures what in China?