Obama to meet plane carrying fallen soldiers in Afghanistan

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    http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/10/29/dover.bodies/index.html

    I think this is the right thing for him to do. Hopefully looking into the eyes of those parents will help guide him to get us out of Afghanistan. Otherwise, he will be doing this often for the next four years at least.
     
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    Ummm--wasn't this the guy that stated a thousand times over that "we took our eyes off of the ball"--& that Afganistan is where we need to be.

    It looks to me that we have passed the ball to Obama & now he wants to fumble it. His general McCrystal is asking for 40K more troops to win this war--& to keep the troops there in a "safer" position.

    GUARANTEED--if he backs off & does not follow the advise of his hand picked general it will only embolden Al Queda & the Taliban. Only this time when we cut & run they will follow us right back to our shores.

    We are all tired of war. But this is an enemy we cannot let win.
     
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    McCrystal wants 40k troops to start with, in reality he wants 500k overall within five years. That's unrealistic and one of the many reasons why we need to leave the desert wasteland.

    You cannot defeat a culture. You cannot be that ignorant to believe that.

    There is a reason why Afghanistan is a "graveyard of Empires" with graves for the Soviet Union and British Empire. We keep it up, they're going to need to dig a fresh one for us.
     
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    Please show us where that 500K is in his recommendations: COMISAF Initial Assessment (Unclassified) -- Searchable Document. You had to get that 500K number from somewhere, though. Let us know.
     
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    He wants 500,000 in general, but the majority will be the U.S.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWX794aJ_y8&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - 500,000 Troops Needed for Afghanistan?[/ame]

    Besides, wargames conducted in the 90's showed that for the U.S. to be able to not only defeat a enemy in Afghanistan but to hold it safely that 500,000 or so troops would be needed.
     
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    Wait. I gave you the report and asked you to support your claim that McCyrystal wants 500K troops and you give me some blond on the tube telling you that the report says McChrystal wants 500K? That is just nonsensical thinking.

    The link to the report is right there. Read it yourself, don't believe some blond on the tube telling you that McChrystal asked for 500K.
     
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    500,000 troops in general is the eventual goal. Are you high? Do you think he's going to ask for all of it at once? If he did that, he knows that he'd never get close to that number. He's starting off "small" with 40,000 until there is 500,000 troops there. As much as you may not like to think so, how many men and women we send overseas to fight these wars now is all determined by public opinion.

    How do you think the general public would react if he asked for 300,000 - 500,000 troops in general to be in Afghanistan?

    You maybe see the forest, but you certainly don't see the trees.
     
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    Not high at all. I know that 240K Afghanis added to 160K Afghanis equals 500K Afghanis. BHO is not the CiC of Afghanis and give no orders to deploy Afghanis.
     
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    240 + 160 = 400k.

    So yes, you are high. Get out of this thread, you've made a fool of yourself enough as is.

    Edit: Even when you added something to your post, you still did not correct your error.
     
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    And you think the CiC deploys Afghanis? You are seriously fucked up in the head.

    Moron.
     

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