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I like the idea and I applaud Obama for doing it.
Next step, start cutting entire departments. It is time to get serious about cutting spending.
Fair enough. Is the Department of Defense on the table?
I like the idea and I applaud Obama for doing it.
Next step, start cutting entire departments. It is time to get serious about cutting spending.
Fair enough. Is the Department of Defense on the table?
Not directed at me but I'd say yes and no. No to cutting funding for the troops in the field or the older vets, yes to big DoD cuts. If you can't find a few billion in waste, fraud and abuse there on a yearly basis, your not looking.
Fair enough. Is the Department of Defense on the table?
Not directed at me but I'd say yes and no. No to cutting funding for the troops in the field or the older vets, yes to big DoD cuts. If you can't find a few billion in waste, fraud and abuse there on a yearly basis, your not looking.
I am good with this. We cannot leave our troops hanging out to dry, but you also cannot tell me we can't find BILLIONS in wasteful spending within the DoD.
Fair enough. Is the Department of Defense on the table?
Not directed at me but I'd say yes and no. No to cutting funding for the troops in the field or the older vets, yes to big DoD cuts. If you can't find a few billion in waste, fraud and abuse there on a yearly basis, your not looking.
I am good with this. We cannot leave our troops hanging out to dry, but you also cannot tell me we can't find BILLIONS in wasteful spending within the DoD.
A step in the right direction, but the real answer is tiered pay cuts at various wage levels, ranging frpm 5% at the lower and 25% at the higher - and then a freeze for a number of years.
Actually, it will make a miniscule dent in $2 trillion in deficits. If the savings get calculated over two years, then we have to do the same with the deficits they supposedly address. The savings, assuming they actually occur, will amount to a reduction of 0.25% in the biennial deficits. Calling it a drop in the bucket is an insult to both drops and buckets. Its a single grain of sand from the coast.
Will we actually see this cost savings? Probably not. Gabriel Malor received an official explanation given to federal employees today, which assured them that the freeze will not impact step increases or bonuses for federal workers. It applies to cost-of-living increases, mainly. If an agency wants to give a worker an increase, they just need to increase their pay grade or boost their bonuses to make it happen.
Even if Obama is sincere in this announcement, its nibbling at the far edges of the federal spending problem.
Not directed at me but I'd say yes and no. No to cutting funding for the troops in the field or the older vets, yes to big DoD cuts. If you can't find a few billion in waste, fraud and abuse there on a yearly basis, your not looking.
I am good with this. We cannot leave our troops hanging out to dry, but you also cannot tell me we can't find BILLIONS in wasteful spending within the DoD.
It's there to be had. Waste is not partisan.
Stopping all earmarks would be a big help too. Yeah, yeah... "earmarks are a fraction of the deficit". No doubt brothers. But earmarks are what get traded and used and abused to get the GIANT-ass pork through Congress. (both sides). Just look at what got passed around to pass Obamacare. That goes on, on a smaller scale, for just about everything that snakes it's way through the system.
The USPS needs to be phased out. The only thing I get in snail mail anymore is catalogs anyway....
I couldn't support that.
Most of the elderly get thier mail that way, and many countries rely on it to get letters to and from America.
Like Veterans.
There would still be "snail mail". It would just be delivered by FedEx, DHL, UPS, and whatever other companies form from the buying and selling of the assets of the bankrupt USPS.
Heck, you might have the same mailman just in a different uniform.
No shit. And as we ALL know, ANY legislation takes forever to be heard, amended and voted on. So, where is it?
People not in office can't propose jack squat.
Where's obamas openness? he actually promised to be the most open ever.
And during the back and forth on the healthcare legislation, he failed miserably. Now, beyond that, what beef do you have with him? And where are the GOP plans? If WikiLeaks can get their hands on our most top secret documents, why has the GOP spending cuts list NOT been leaked yet?
A step in the right direction, but the real answer is tiered pay cuts at various wage levels, ranging frpm 5% at the lower and 25% at the higher - and then a freeze for a number of years.
Right direction, wrong speed.
Obama to freeze federal worker pay, save $5 billion over two years Hot Air
Actually, it will make a miniscule dent in $2 trillion in deficits. If the savings get calculated over two years, then we have to do the same with the deficits they supposedly address. The savings, assuming they actually occur, will amount to a reduction of 0.25% in the biennial deficits. Calling it a drop in the bucket is an insult to both drops and buckets. Its a single grain of sand from the coast.
Will we actually see this cost savings? Probably not. Gabriel Malor received an official explanation given to federal employees today, which assured them that the freeze will not impact step increases or bonuses for federal workers. It applies to cost-of-living increases, mainly. If an agency wants to give a worker an increase, they just need to increase their pay grade or boost their bonuses to make it happen.
Even if Obama is sincere in this announcement, its nibbling at the far edges of the federal spending problem.
Sorry for wondering back on topic.
People not in office can't propose jack squat.
Where's obamas openness? he actually promised to be the most open ever.
And during the back and forth on the healthcare legislation, he failed miserably. Now, beyond that, what beef do you have with him? And where are the GOP plans? If WikiLeaks can get their hands on our most top secret documents, why has the GOP spending cuts list NOT been leaked yet?
He vastly increased spending.
He's out spent Bush already.
the pork filled spending bills where our money gets wasted.
The Patriot act is still around
He tried to close Gitmo. that was all bs anyway. The issues coulda just been fixed.
He hired the heads of unions.
He has more czars than anyone ever
Bought GM, and fired a private citizen. He had it coming, but not from big 0
The health care bill we got is making it worse, not better, and the dream would make it even worse than it will be.
That's off the top of my head.
What's so great about big 0 that you blindly follow to the point you only read headlines?
The two-year pay freeze for civilian federal employees will save $2 billion during the rest of the current fiscal year and almost $30 billion over the next five years, the White House said Monday.
First Read - Obama to announce pay freeze for federal workers
What was the GOP plan to cut costs again? Oh that's right, they don't have one....
A step in the right direction, but the real answer is tiered pay cuts at various wage levels, ranging frpm 5% at the lower and 25% at the higher - and then a freeze for a number of years.
Right direction, wrong speed.
Obama to freeze federal worker pay, save $5 billion over two years Hot Air
Actually, it will make a miniscule dent in $2 trillion in deficits. If the savings get calculated over two years, then we have to do the same with the deficits they supposedly address. The savings, assuming they actually occur, will amount to a reduction of 0.25% in the biennial deficits. Calling it a drop in the bucket is an insult to both drops and buckets. Its a single grain of sand from the coast.
Will we actually see this cost savings? Probably not. Gabriel Malor received an official explanation given to federal employees today, which assured them that the freeze will not impact step increases or bonuses for federal workers. It applies to cost-of-living increases, mainly. If an agency wants to give a worker an increase, they just need to increase their pay grade or boost their bonuses to make it happen.
Even if Obama is sincere in this announcement, its nibbling at the far edges of the federal spending problem.
Sorry for wondering back on topic.
So, are you now suggesting we SHOULDN'T freeze federal employees' wages??
And during the back and forth on the healthcare legislation, he failed miserably. Now, beyond that, what beef do you have with him? And where are the GOP plans? If WikiLeaks can get their hands on our most top secret documents, why has the GOP spending cuts list NOT been leaked yet?
He vastly increased spending.
He's out spent Bush already.
the pork filled spending bills where our money gets wasted.
The Patriot act is still around
He tried to close Gitmo. that was all bs anyway. The issues coulda just been fixed.
He hired the heads of unions.
He has more czars than anyone ever
Bought GM, and fired a private citizen. He had it coming, but not from big 0
The health care bill we got is making it worse, not better, and the dream would make it even worse than it will be.
That's off the top of my head.
What's so great about big 0 that you blindly follow to the point you only read headlines?
I refuse to call names, but you sure do sound alot like some of the other bullshit artists around here from the right. I do not blindly follow Obama. I simply do not blindly bash him and only give him 18 months to right the Titanic. You asshats were calling him a failure before he was even in office a full year. You tell me who the blind one is...
I couldn't support that.
Most of the elderly get thier mail that way, and many countries rely on it to get letters to and from America.
Like Veterans.
There would still be "snail mail". It would just be delivered by FedEx, DHL, UPS, and whatever other companies form from the buying and selling of the assets of the bankrupt USPS.
Heck, you might have the same mailman just in a different uniform.
Great. Lower wages, less benefits for the worker bee, and greater income for the CEO's and stock holders. Just what conservatives want, a redistribution of the wealth, from the middle class to the leisure class.
Guess what happens when the expectations of the middle class for a better life are frustrated?
He vastly increased spending.
He's out spent Bush already.
the pork filled spending bills where our money gets wasted.
The Patriot act is still around
He tried to close Gitmo. that was all bs anyway. The issues coulda just been fixed.
He hired the heads of unions.
He has more czars than anyone ever
Bought GM, and fired a private citizen. He had it coming, but not from big 0
The health care bill we got is making it worse, not better, and the dream would make it even worse than it will be.
That's off the top of my head.
What's so great about big 0 that you blindly follow to the point you only read headlines?
I refuse to call names, but you sure do sound alot like some of the other bullshit artists around here from the right. I do not blindly follow Obama. I simply do not blindly bash him and only give him 18 months to right the Titanic. You asshats were calling him a failure before he was even in office a full year. You tell me who the blind one is...
Wow... interesting words coming from someone who routinely bashes Sarah Palin for everything from the price of eggs to AIDS in Africa.
Your feigned sense of fairness takes disingenuousness to a whole new level!
A step in the right direction, but the real answer is tiered pay cuts at various wage levels, ranging frpm 5% at the lower and 25% at the higher - and then a freeze for a number of years.
Right direction, wrong speed.
Obama to freeze federal worker pay, save $5 billion over two years Hot Air
Actually, it will make a miniscule dent in $2 trillion in deficits. If the savings get calculated over two years, then we have to do the same with the deficits they supposedly address. The savings, assuming they actually occur, will amount to a reduction of 0.25% in the biennial deficits. Calling it a drop in the bucket is an insult to both drops and buckets. Its a single grain of sand from the coast.
Will we actually see this cost savings? Probably not. Gabriel Malor received an official explanation given to federal employees today, which assured them that the freeze will not impact step increases or bonuses for federal workers. It applies to cost-of-living increases, mainly. If an agency wants to give a worker an increase, they just need to increase their pay grade or boost their bonuses to make it happen.
Even if Obama is sincere in this announcement, its nibbling at the far edges of the federal spending problem.
Sorry for wondering back on topic.
So, are you now suggesting we SHOULDN'T freeze federal employees' wages??
I refuse to call names, but you sure do sound alot like some of the other bullshit artists around here from the right. I do not blindly follow Obama. I simply do not blindly bash him and only give him 18 months to right the Titanic. You asshats were calling him a failure before he was even in office a full year. You tell me who the blind one is...
Wow... interesting words coming from someone who routinely bashes Sarah Palin for everything from the price of eggs to AIDS in Africa.
Your feigned sense of fairness takes disingenuousness to a whole new level!
Really? Now, to be specific, would that be the COUNTRY or CONTINENT of Africa you speak of?
I like the idea and I applaud Obama for doing it.
Next step, start cutting entire departments. It is time to get serious about cutting spending.
Fair enough. Is the Department of Defense on the table?
