Obama provides boost for skeptics while visiting Alaska!!!

[Old Rocks]

We lost exactly where we expected to lose. Just as the GOP will lose the Senate in 2016. And it will be demographics and the very 'Conservative' stance by the GOP that will work for the Dems.

 

[jc456]

We lost exactly where we expected to lose. Just as the GOP will lose the Senate in 2016. And it will be demographics and the very 'Conservative' stance by the GOP that will work for the Dems.

oh, ok. So now you wanted to lose. LOL

 

[Old Rocks]

No, but we liberals are realists concerning what is possible. Not like the 'Conservatives' here that were celebrating their victory on 5Nov12. LOL

 

[jc456]

No, but we liberals are realists concerning what is possible. Not like the 'Conservatives' here that were celebrating their victory on 5Nov12. LOL

how is it we're celebrating by factually pointing it out? So you don't like facts? You call it celebrating. ah, yeah ok Frances.

 

[skookerasbil]

September 03, 2015, 12:21 pm
Snowden: Clinton's email server 'a problem
By Mark Hensch

Snowden: Clinton's email server 'a problem'


Ooooooooooooopsie!!!



Hey Joe???!!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-03/where-us-recession-hiding


Ooooooooooooooops!!!!!


Lets see how much progressives are yapping when Krugman and Co get their nut sacks kicked in by late fall.

 

[Old Rocks]

No, but we liberals are realists concerning what is possible. Not like the 'Conservatives' here that were celebrating their victory on 5Nov12. LOL

how is it we're celebrating by factually pointing it out? So you don't like facts? You call it celebrating. ah, yeah ok Frances.

You mean that you are still celebrating your victory in the 2012 elections? I guess that is what is expected from you. LOL

 

[skookerasbil]

The House will be staying red at least until 2020.........100% certainty.

Why the House will stay Republican


Quite simple...........when state houses are run by non-left politicians, redistricting assures majorities for many years. And thank God.......no worry about any significant climate legislation for another 5 years at least. ( unless maybe Miami goes 10 feet underwater!!! )

 

[skookerasbil]

LOL.....sometimes I think of that famous Twilight Zone episode where that guy makes a deal with the devil and goes to a place where he never loses. Except that guy is miserable after a few days.............and me? Six years and never get tired of coming in here and barely trying but winning all along!!!


a hoot s0ns..............

 

[skookerasbil]

Back to topic...........loved some of the cartoons out today of Obama looking at that glacier in Alaska........

glacier gheyness..........

 

[Old Rocks]

http://pubs.usgs.gov/pp/p1386k/

Glaciers of North America — GLACIERS OF ALASKA
By Bruce F. Molnia
With sections on COLUMBIA AND HUBBARD TIDEWATER GLACIERS
By ROBERT M. KRIMMEL
THE 1986 AND 2002 TEMPORARY CLOSURES OF RUSSELL FIORD BY THE HUBBARD GLACIER
By BRUCE F. MOLNIA, DENNIS C. TRABANT, ROD S. MARCH, and ROBERT M. KRIMMEL
GEOSPATIAL INVENTORY AND ANALYSIS OF GLACIERS: A CASE STUDY FOR THE EASTERN ALASKA RANGE
By WILLIAM F. MANLEY

Description
This chapter is the eighth chapter to be released in U.S. Geological Survey Professional Paper 1386, Satellite Image Atlas of Glaciers of the World, a series of 11 chapters. In each chapter, remotely sensed images, primarily from the Landsat 1, 2, and 3 series of spacecraft, are used to study the glacierized regions of our planet and to monitor glacier changes. Landsat images, acquired primarily during the middle to late 1970s, were used by an international team of glaciologists and other scientists to study various geographic regions or to discuss glaciological topics. In each geographic region, the present areal distribution of glaciers is compared, wherever possible, with historical information about their past extent. The atlas provides an accurate regional inventory of the areal extent of glacier ice on our planet during the 1970s as part of a growing international scientific effort to measure global environmental change on the Earth's surface. This chapter is divided into three parts: Part I, Background and History; Part II, Glaciological Topics; and Part III, Regional Distribution of Alaska Glaciers.

About 5 percent (about 75,000 km2) of Alaska is presently glacierized, including 11 mountain ranges, 1 large island, an island chain, and 1 archipelago. The total number of glaciers in Alaska is estimated at >100,000, including many active and former tidewater glaciers. Glaciers in every mountain range and island group are experiencing significant retreat, thinning, and (or) stagnation, especially those at lower elevations, a process that began by the middle of the 19th century. In southeastern Alaska and western Canada, 205 glaciers have a history of surging; in the same region, at least 53 present and 7 former large ice-dammed lakes have produced jökulhlaups (glacier-outburst floods). Ice-capped Alaska volcanoes also have the potential for jökulhlaups caused by subglacier volcanic and geothermal activity. Satellite remote sensing provides the only practical means of monitoring regional changes in glaciers in response to short-and long-term changes in the maritime and continental climates of Alaska. Geospatial analysis is used to define selected glaciological parameters in the eastern part of the Alaska Range.

Glaciers are rather important.

 

[Billy_Bob]

U.S. Geological Survey Professional Paper 1386-K

Glaciers of North America — GLACIERS OF ALASKA
By Bruce F. Molnia
With sections on COLUMBIA AND HUBBARD TIDEWATER GLACIERS
By ROBERT M. KRIMMEL
THE 1986 AND 2002 TEMPORARY CLOSURES OF RUSSELL FIORD BY THE HUBBARD GLACIER
By BRUCE F. MOLNIA, DENNIS C. TRABANT, ROD S. MARCH, and ROBERT M. KRIMMEL
GEOSPATIAL INVENTORY AND ANALYSIS OF GLACIERS: A CASE STUDY FOR THE EASTERN ALASKA RANGE
By WILLIAM F. MANLEY

Description
This chapter is the eighth chapter to be released in U.S. Geological Survey Professional Paper 1386, Satellite Image Atlas of Glaciers of the World, a series of 11 chapters. In each chapter, remotely sensed images, primarily from the Landsat 1, 2, and 3 series of spacecraft, are used to study the glacierized regions of our planet and to monitor glacier changes. Landsat images, acquired primarily during the middle to late 1970s, were used by an international team of glaciologists and other scientists to study various geographic regions or to discuss glaciological topics. In each geographic region, the present areal distribution of glaciers is compared, wherever possible, with historical information about their past extent. The atlas provides an accurate regional inventory of the areal extent of glacier ice on our planet during the 1970s as part of a growing international scientific effort to measure global environmental change on the Earth's surface. This chapter is divided into three parts: Part I, Background and History; Part II, Glaciological Topics; and Part III, Regional Distribution of Alaska Glaciers.

About 5 percent (about 75,000 km2) of Alaska is presently glacierized, including 11 mountain ranges, 1 large island, an island chain, and 1 archipelago. The total number of glaciers in Alaska is estimated at >100,000, including many active and former tidewater glaciers. Glaciers in every mountain range and island group are experiencing significant retreat, thinning, and (or) stagnation, especially those at lower elevations, a process that began by the middle of the 19th century. In southeastern Alaska and western Canada, 205 glaciers have a history of surging; in the same region, at least 53 present and 7 former large ice-dammed lakes have produced jökulhlaups (glacier-outburst floods). Ice-capped Alaska volcanoes also have the potential for jökulhlaups caused by subglacier volcanic and geothermal activity. Satellite remote sensing provides the only practical means of monitoring regional changes in glaciers in response to short-and long-term changes in the maritime and continental climates of Alaska. Geospatial analysis is used to define selected glaciological parameters in the eastern part of the Alaska Range.

Glaciers are rather important.

Yep and there are whole lot of real geologists who are calling BULL SHIT! As many glaciers are not retreating but growing... This is gonna be a fun election cycle as we tear apart your lies and shove them up your liberal ass..

UNITED STATES
- Colorado (scroll down to see AP article)
- Washington (Mount St. Helens, Mt. Rainier* and Mt. Shuksan
- California (Mount Shasta - scroll down for info)
- Montana (scroll down for info)
- Glacier Peak, WA (scroll down for info
- Alaska (Mt. McKinley and Hubbard).

And they are expanding globally... Why do you folks lie to keep your lie alive?

Source

Lots of info at the source about what is really happening and not the Obama bull shit hyped up crap!

 

[Old Rocks]

LOL.
What a bullshit site. Sorry, you stupid ass, but I have seen many of the glaciers in the Cascades and they are not advancing. Except for the glacier in the crater of St. Helens, they are either stagnating, or rapidly retreating. And Glacier National Park will soon have no glaciers.

Now you are claiming that the USGS is doing fraudulent science. You are one pathetic ass.

http://www.nps.gov/noca/learn/nature/glacial-mass-balance1.htm

Glaciers are one of the most valuable resources in the North Cascades National Park Service Complex (NOCA). Approximately one-third of all the glaciers in the lower 48 states are within the park (Post et al. 1971). The 312 glaciers in NOCA are a vital component of hydrologic systems and aquatic ecosystems. They also influence soil development, the distribution of vegetation, flooding and are dramatic indicators of climate change. The glacial resource is also central to the region's hydroelectric industry and our efforts to sustain endangered salmon and trout. Perhaps the most critical role of glaciers is providing fresh water during the summer drought. This role is becoming more important as snow-pack and glaciers decline. Since the end of the Little Ice Age in the late 1800's, glaciers have retreated throughout NOCA and we estimate that approximately 40% of the park's ice cover was lost in the past 150 years (Figure 21). In the Thunder Creek watershed this has resulted in a 30% reduction in summer streamflow. To understand climate change, the glacier resource, and the effect of glaciers on other resources at NOCA, long-term monitoring of glaciers is needed. South Cascade Glacier, located just outside NOCA, has been monitored by the U.S.G.S. Water Resources Division since the mid-1950s. When we began this program in 1993 it was not known how representative South Cascade Glacier was of NOCA glaciers because of the influence of non-climatic factors such as geographic position, aspect and elevation. Since that time we have learned that each glacier in the North Cascades has a unique response to climate, but that all of the glaciers are retreating (Riedel and Larrabee 2011).

 

[Billy_Bob]

LOL.
What a bullshit site. Sorry, you stupid ass, but I have seen many of the glaciers in the Cascades and they are not advancing. Except for the glacier in the crater of St. Helens, they are either stagnating, or rapidly retreating. And Glacier National Park will soon have no glaciers.

Now you are claiming that the USGS is doing fraudulent science. You are one pathetic ass.

Glacier Monitoring Program - North Cascades National Park (U.S. National Park Service)

Glaciers are one of the most valuable resources in the North Cascades National Park Service Complex (NOCA). Approximately one-third of all the glaciers in the lower 48 states are within the park (Post et al. 1971). The 312 glaciers in NOCA are a vital component of hydrologic systems and aquatic ecosystems. They also influence soil development, the distribution of vegetation, flooding and are dramatic indicators of climate change. The glacial resource is also central to the region's hydroelectric industry and our efforts to sustain endangered salmon and trout. Perhaps the most critical role of glaciers is providing fresh water during the summer drought. This role is becoming more important as snow-pack and glaciers decline. Since the end of the Little Ice Age in the late 1800's, glaciers have retreated throughout NOCA and we estimate that approximately 40% of the park's ice cover was lost in the past 150 years (Figure 21). In the Thunder Creek watershed this has resulted in a 30% reduction in summer streamflow. To understand climate change, the glacier resource, and the effect of glaciers on other resources at NOCA, long-term monitoring of glaciers is needed. South Cascade Glacier, located just outside NOCA, has been monitored by the U.S.G.S. Water Resources Division since the mid-1950s. When we began this program in 1993 it was not known how representative South Cascade Glacier was of NOCA glaciers because of the influence of non-climatic factors such as geographic position, aspect and elevation. Since that time we have learned that each glacier in the North Cascades has a unique response to climate, but that all of the glaciers are retreating (Riedel and Larrabee 2011).

You do realize that Russia, China, India, Germany, Australia and Canada told Obama to go fuck himself dont you? they were slightly more polite than I am, as they refused to sign on to his butt load of crap, but the your #1 sign was clearly given... I cant think of a nicer way to say Bull SHIT to your hype!

 

[skookerasbil]

Fail.........the AGW religion never talks about the GROWING glaciers in Greenland. duh...........but anyway, the religion has been talking about glaciers for 30 years.

Nobody is caring.

 

[Old Rocks]

LOL.
What a bullshit site. Sorry, you stupid ass, but I have seen many of the glaciers in the Cascades and they are not advancing. Except for the glacier in the crater of St. Helens, they are either stagnating, or rapidly retreating. And Glacier National Park will soon have no glaciers.

Now you are claiming that the USGS is doing fraudulent science. You are one pathetic ass.

Glacier Monitoring Program - North Cascades National Park (U.S. National Park Service)

Glaciers are one of the most valuable resources in the North Cascades National Park Service Complex (NOCA). Approximately one-third of all the glaciers in the lower 48 states are within the park (Post et al. 1971). The 312 glaciers in NOCA are a vital component of hydrologic systems and aquatic ecosystems. They also influence soil development, the distribution of vegetation, flooding and are dramatic indicators of climate change. The glacial resource is also central to the region's hydroelectric industry and our efforts to sustain endangered salmon and trout. Perhaps the most critical role of glaciers is providing fresh water during the summer drought. This role is becoming more important as snow-pack and glaciers decline. Since the end of the Little Ice Age in the late 1800's, glaciers have retreated throughout NOCA and we estimate that approximately 40% of the park's ice cover was lost in the past 150 years (Figure 21). In the Thunder Creek watershed this has resulted in a 30% reduction in summer streamflow. To understand climate change, the glacier resource, and the effect of glaciers on other resources at NOCA, long-term monitoring of glaciers is needed. South Cascade Glacier, located just outside NOCA, has been monitored by the U.S.G.S. Water Resources Division since the mid-1950s. When we began this program in 1993 it was not known how representative South Cascade Glacier was of NOCA glaciers because of the influence of non-climatic factors such as geographic position, aspect and elevation. Since that time we have learned that each glacier in the North Cascades has a unique response to climate, but that all of the glaciers are retreating (Riedel and Larrabee 2011).

You do realize that Russia, China, India, Germany, Australia and Canada told Obama to go fuck himself dont you? they were slightly more polite than I am, as they refused to sign on to his butt load of crap, but the your #1 sign was clearly given... I cant think of a nicer way to say Bull SHIT to your hype!

You do realize that you are lying once again, do you not?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/01/w...zil-agree-on-climate-change-actions.html?_r=0

WASHINGTON — Five months before a United Nations summit meeting aimed at forging a historic global accord to cut climate-warming emissions, significant signs of progress toward an agreement are emerging.

China, the world’s largest greenhouse gas polluter, submitted a 16-page plan to the United Nations on Tuesday detailing how it plans to shift its economy to reduce fossil fuel emissions by 2030. On the same day, President Dilma Rousseff of Brazil, which is among the top 10 carbon emitters, and President Obama announced in Washington that their nations had agreed to sharply expand electricity generation from renewable sources.

But it is increasingly evident that the policy actions by these countries and others will not be enough to stave off a rise in the atmospheric temperature of 2 degrees Celsius, or 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit. At that point, scientists say, the planet will be locked into a future of extreme storms, droughts, food and water shortages, and rising sea levels.

Continue reading the main story
RELATED COVERAGE

• China Pledges to Halt Growth of Carbon Emissions in Climate PlanJUNE 30, 2015
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  Dilma Rousseff of Brazil Visits U.S. Amid Turbulence at HomeJUNE 30, 2015

Under a United Nations accord reached in Peru last December, every nation is to submit a plan for cutting carbon emissions well ahead of the December summit meeting in Paris. The plans by the individual nations will form the core of the new agreement.

 

[Old Rocks]

Fail.........the AGW religion never talks about the GROWING glaciers in Greenland. duh...........but anyway, the religion has been talking about glaciers for 30 years.

Nobody is caring.

link?

 

[jc456]

No, but we liberals are realists concerning what is possible. Not like the 'Conservatives' here that were celebrating their victory on 5Nov12. LOL

how is it we're celebrating by factually pointing it out? So you don't like facts? You call it celebrating. ah, yeah ok Frances.

You mean that you are still celebrating your victory in the 2012 elections? I guess that is what is expected from you. LOL

exactly, I'm not celebrating, sounds more like you're mourning. Pointing out a fact isn't celebrating, not sure where you get your information but you are lost on this. Not surprising at all though.

 

[Old Rocks]

Why. We won. And we will win again in 2016, precisely because people like you represent the face of the GOP. We will win the Presidency and the Senate. And continue to make inroads into the House. The denial of what has became increasingly obvious to many people is not going to set well with them. Note that these fires and floods have been hitting mainly rural areas that are red even in blue states. They are going to look at what has happened to many of their neighbors homes and property, if not their own, and question the denial of the conditions that created the fire storms and floods.

 

[skookerasbil]

Fail.........the AGW religion never talks about the GROWING glaciers in Greenland. duh...........but anyway, the religion has been talking about glaciers for 30 years.

Nobody is caring.

link?

ADD GREENLAND TO THE LIST OF GROWING ICE SHEETS



Geee. Ray......hate to do it but fair is fair..........

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