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And your conspiracy theories continue... 'the man' still on your shoulder keeping you down?
It's always someone else's fault for you and your entitlement junkie ilk
Yeah, we'll see. Keep kneeling at the corporatists' feet. You'd better pray that I'm wrong... but I'm not. And when did I say anyone is keeping me down? This is about American workers.
Funny.. all unsubstantiated conspiracy theory statements...
A store clerk starts working at $10 an hour. Every year he receives a 4% raise....after 10 years he is making $14.91....However, he is still a store clerk doing exactly what he was doing when he was there on day 1. A little more efficient, a little more in the know, but to the success of the company? He is not doing anything more for that 14.91 than he was doing for the 10.
So the company hires a replacement at 10 an hour and saves 4.91 an hour and the output of that emnployee is exactly the same.
Is this wrong? Seems unfair, yes...but wrong? Would you say it is smart business to pay someone more than the posaition warrants...even after 10 years the employee proved to be only as valuable as one with 1 year experience?
Maybe that store emplyee after 1 year should have seeked a more lucrative opportunity. Maybe an opportunity that is not one that can be easily replaced when he has years of experience?
You see Peepers, people starts companies to make money. They want to make as much money as they can so they can enjoy life and retire. They take on the long hours, the risks, the days if not weeks away from family so they are in control of their destiny.
Otrhers dont want the headaches or the risks or the long hours or the days if not weeks away from their families. Fine., But then they need to realize that they are NOT in control of their destiny. They should, however, find a way to differentiate themselves from the rest. Make themselves indispensible.
That store clerk for example...maybe if he were seen on a daily basis at the end of the day sweeping floors that were not part of his job, or staying later after the close with the managers as they went over inventory, he would be seen as worth the extrra 4.91 an hour.
A store clerk starts working at $10 an hour. Every year he receives a 4% raise....after 10 years he is making $14.91....However, he is still a store clerk doing exactly what he was doing when he was there on day 1. A little more efficient, a little more in the know, but to the success of the company? He is not doing anything more for that 14.91 than he was doing for the 10.
So the company hires a replacement at 10 an hour and saves 4.91 an hour and the output of that emnployee is exactly the same.
Is this wrong? Seems unfair, yes...but wrong? Would you say it is smart business to pay someone more than the posaition warrants...even after 10 years the employee proved to be only as valuable as one with 1 year experience?
Maybe that store emplyee after 1 year should have seeked a more lucrative opportunity. Maybe an opportunity that is not one that can be easily replaced when he has years of experience?
You see Peepers, people starts companies to make money. They want to make as much money as they can so they can enjoy life and retire. They take on the long hours, the risks, the days if not weeks away from family so they are in control of their destiny.
Otrhers dont want the headaches or the risks or the long hours or the days if not weeks away from their families. Fine., But then they need to realize that they are NOT in control of their destiny. They should, however, find a way to differentiate themselves from the rest. Make themselves indispensible.
That store clerk for example...maybe if he were seen on a daily basis at the end of the day sweeping floors that were not part of his job, or staying later after the close with the managers as they went over inventory, he would be seen as worth the extrra 4.91 an hour.
BS. It's pure greed. How do you explain the pay of CEO's going from 42x that of the lowest worker in 1982 to the 400+x that is the norm today. CEO salaries are obscene compared to what those on the front lines make...you're saying their value went down 380% in 28 years??? This has nothing to do with the actual "value" of the employees. Not even a little bit. This is why outsourcing has been so prevalent.
IndustryWeek : 2.3 Million Jobs Lost to China since 2001, Study Shows
Funny.. all unsubstantiated conspiracy theory statements...
Nope! All true. You can look them up... all documented.
Same effing thing. Why do a roomful of rich guys that are poised to gain from the profits of a corporation get to determine the value of the employees? Because that is how the wealthy have set it up. Self-preservation.
And yes, wages HAVE been on a stagnant (and now downward) trajectory since the 70's.
Next shoe to drop for U.S. job seekers: lower wages | Reuters
How did those rich guys get rich? My personal assets are well over 5,000,000.00, I have already retired from one industry and I'm currently working in another (where I earn a 6 figure salary). I am a partner in two businesses, I own over 2500 acres of land where I run a modest herd of beef cattle, I own two homes and numerous vehicles. All this I aquired after I was released from prison in 1980. All it took was hard work and common sense. Oh and I don't have nor have I ever had health insurance.
Have you ever gotten a job from a poor man?
Are you looking to adopt someone?
I am available.
The greed comes from those who wish to control the freedoms and property of others for benefit without an actual stake...
The government can separate you from your liberty, assets, money and choices much more quickly and completely can any corporation.
As I said before, the government is being bought and controlled by corporations. Whose idea is deregulation? Whose idea was it to contract out 90% of the military or whatever ridiculous percentage it was for Bush's war for $$$. Who begged congress to relax lending qualifications to aquire more loans to sell. Who decided the meat industry doesn't have to tell consumers exactly what stores they shipped their tainted meat to? Who persuaded the government that eminent domain is legal? How is it possible that insurance companies can drag things out in court hoping the person suing for coverage will die before the case is settled? Why, when Enron was bilking 30 BILLION dollars out of California, were Dick and Shrub in secret energy meetings - why did they tell California "we can't help you"? Why did the FERC "look the other way"? Why do corporations now have unlimited access to the election process which needs to be purged of special interests... instead, they were given even more power. Shall I go on???
A store clerk starts working at $10 an hour. Every year he receives a 4% raise....after 10 years he is making $14.91....However, he is still a store clerk doing exactly what he was doing when he was there on day 1. A little more efficient, a little more in the know, but to the success of the company? He is not doing anything more for that 14.91 than he was doing for the 10.
So the company hires a replacement at 10 an hour and saves 4.91 an hour and the output of that emnployee is exactly the same.
Is this wrong? Seems unfair, yes...but wrong? Would you say it is smart business to pay someone more than the posaition warrants...even after 10 years the employee proved to be only as valuable as one with 1 year experience?
Maybe that store emplyee after 1 year should have seeked a more lucrative opportunity. Maybe an opportunity that is not one that can be easily replaced when he has years of experience?
You see Peepers, people starts companies to make money. They want to make as much money as they can so they can enjoy life and retire. They take on the long hours, the risks, the days if not weeks away from family so they are in control of their destiny.
Otrhers dont want the headaches or the risks or the long hours or the days if not weeks away from their families. Fine., But then they need to realize that they are NOT in control of their destiny. They should, however, find a way to differentiate themselves from the rest. Make themselves indispensible.
That store clerk for example...maybe if he were seen on a daily basis at the end of the day sweeping floors that were not part of his job, or staying later after the close with the managers as they went over inventory, he would be seen as worth the extrra 4.91 an hour.
BS. It's pure greed. How do you explain the pay of CEO's going from 42x that of the lowest worker in 1982 to the 400+x that is the norm today. CEO salaries are obscene compared to what those on the front lines make...you're saying CEO's value went up 89% in 28 years and now all the wage slaves are only worth $10 or $12 an hour - when they can find a job, that is??? This has nothing to do with the actual "value" of the employees. Not even a little bit. This is why outsourcing has been so prevalent.
IndustryWeek : 2.3 Million Jobs Lost to China since 2001, Study Shows
What business or corporation wants their industry nationalized
Remind me never to hire you to run one of my businesses.
Cite all of your assertions with credible sources... no winger links, no blogs, no conspiracy sites, etc... we'll be waiting
Cite all of your assertions with credible sources... no winger links, no blogs, no conspiracy sites, etc... we'll be waiting
I don't have time to look everything up for you. You do the research since you don't trust my sources. I expect a full refute of anything that I posted, thank you very much.
How did those rich guys get rich? My personal assets are well over 5,000,000.00, I have already retired from one industry and I'm currently working in another (where I earn a 6 figure salary). I am a partner in two businesses, I own over 2500 acres of land where I run a modest herd of beef cattle, I own two homes and numerous vehicles. All this I aquired after I was released from prison in 1980. All it took was hard work and common sense. Oh and I don't have nor have I ever had health insurance.
Have you ever gotten a job from a poor man?
Are you looking to adopt someone?
I am available.
No I think five children is enough.
No chuckles... you make the assertions, you have burden of proof... you don't get to state things as fact and try and get others to research your claims... then ask for full research when your baseless assertions are questioned..
nice try
A store clerk starts working at $10 an hour. Every year he receives a 4% raise....after 10 years he is making $14.91....However, he is still a store clerk doing exactly what he was doing when he was there on day 1. A little more efficient, a little more in the know, but to the success of the company? He is not doing anything more for that 14.91 than he was doing for the 10.
So the company hires a replacement at 10 an hour and saves 4.91 an hour and the output of that emnployee is exactly the same.
Is this wrong? Seems unfair, yes...but wrong? Would you say it is smart business to pay someone more than the posaition warrants...even after 10 years the employee proved to be only as valuable as one with 1 year experience?
Maybe that store emplyee after 1 year should have seeked a more lucrative opportunity. Maybe an opportunity that is not one that can be easily replaced when he has years of experience?
You see Peepers, people starts companies to make money. They want to make as much money as they can so they can enjoy life and retire. They take on the long hours, the risks, the days if not weeks away from family so they are in control of their destiny.
Otrhers dont want the headaches or the risks or the long hours or the days if not weeks away from their families. Fine., But then they need to realize that they are NOT in control of their destiny. They should, however, find a way to differentiate themselves from the rest. Make themselves indispensible.
That store clerk for example...maybe if he were seen on a daily basis at the end of the day sweeping floors that were not part of his job, or staying later after the close with the managers as they went over inventory, he would be seen as worth the extrra 4.91 an hour.
BS. It's pure greed. How do you explain the pay of CEO's going from 42x that of the lowest worker in 1982 to the 400+x that is the norm today. CEO salaries are obscene compared to what those on the front lines make...you're saying CEO's value went up 89% in 28 years and now all the wage slaves are only worth $10 or $12 an hour - when they can find a job, that is??? This has nothing to do with the actual "value" of the employees. Not even a little bit. This is why outsourcing has been so prevalent.
IndustryWeek : 2.3 Million Jobs Lost to China since 2001, Study Shows
This is not a diversion but I admit it will look like one...
But please answer me....
What are your thoughts of the salaries of professional athletes? Not golf seeing as yoiu must perform better than the field to make that money....
But what about the athletes on teams?
What are your thoughts on what Oprah makes per show? What do you think the stage clerk makes compared to that?
Remind me never to hire you to run one of my businesses.
Why? Did I say anything that is untrue? It's all there in black and white.
This is not a diversion but I admit it will look like one...
But please answer me....
What are your thoughts of the salaries of professional athletes? Not golf seeing as yoiu must perform better than the field to make that money....
But what about the athletes on teams?
What are your thoughts on what Oprah makes per show? What do you think the stage clerk makes compared to that?
All of it is obscene. How much do you think Oprah's secretary makes??? Probably the market rate or below. So much for sharing the spoils with those who fight the wars... Anyway, I'm off now.
