Obama Overtures to Business Fall Flat

[teapartysamurai]

The usual media apologist clap trap for Obama and then!!!!!

Still, Obama has nurtured "an increasingly hostile environment for investment and job creation," says Verizon CEO Ivan Seidenberg, chairman of the Business Roundtable. Thomas Donohue, who heads the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, sees a "cumulative job-killing impact of over-regulation" under Obama.

"The truth is that not even the Franklin Roosevelt administration was as hostile to and ignorant about free enterprise as this administration is," declared magazine publisher and one-time GOP presidential contender Steve Forbes.
So far, Senate Republicans—echoing some of the same antibusiness complaints—have been able to block Obama's small-business jobs bill, even though small business is a traditional core GOP constituency. Republicans claim the bill is misguided.


But Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky shot back in a statement, "For more than a year and a half, the president and his Democrat allies on Capitol Hill have pushed an antibusiness, anti-jobs agenda on the American people in the form of one massive government intrusion after another."

The current adversarial climate is being aggravated by November's midterm elections. Both parties recognize that job creation has not been strong enough to push down an unemployment rate long hovering near 10 percent. And both recognize the vital role to be played by small businesses, which account for two out of every three jobs.

The new financial overhaul law—while not going as far as some Democrats wanted—and other new regulations along with the prospect of higher taxes irritated many financial and corporate leaders "and they've moved away from Obama," said James Thurber, a political scientist at American University.
"Certainly, the campaign money has migrated away from the Democrats. And Wall Street will go with whomever helps them out the most," Thurber said.

Obama overtures to business fall flat

The bottom line is Obama has been playing to his base with the usual class envy, hate free enterprise, clap trap.

Now, he's surprised our unemployment hovers at 10% and business is turning against him?

Obama has no clue how this country works. He continues to live in his Keynesian fantasy, where government is the fount is all prosperity, and everytime they are wrong, they simply start showering us with more of OUR OWN FREAKING MONEY!!!!!!!

Obama is beginning to make Carter look fiscally responsible.

 

[teapartysamurai]

How could you refute this liberals?

I don't blame you keeping quiet.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

Maybe you feel it's OK to give all power and resources in this country to corporations, but most people in this country don't want that. Spin it all you want, but who cares about the whining of an overpaid CEO? Seriously. And isn't Obama's message speaking of small businesses, the backbone of this country? Verizon is not a small business.

 

[cad]

Maybe you feel it's OK to give all power and resources in this country to corporations, but most people in this country don't want that. Spin it all you want, but who cares about the whining of an overpaid CEO? Seriously. And isn't Obama's message speaking of small businesses, the backbone of this country? Verizon is not a small business.

you're right, he's only the CEO of a company that employs tens of thousands and provides services to tens of millions. what would he know about the subject of job creation? what is your definition of overpaid?

 

[Jarhead]

Maybe you feel it's OK to give all power and resources in this country to corporations, but most people in this country don't want that. Spin it all you want, but who cares about the whining of an overpaid CEO? Seriously. And isn't Obama's message speaking of small businesses, the backbone of this country? Verizon is not a small business.

Verizon is not responsible for a 10% unemployment rate.

Small businesses who are clueless what their overhead is going to be with all of the projected initiatives and already passed legislation are the backbone of hiring.

And until this administration lets it be known that it does not plan to fundamentally change the way private industry operates, all of us business owners are going to do what we are doing right now....sit around and watch.

Take off your blinders man. I understand your anger at the few large businesses in the US. But start to realize that when in a recession, a SMALL business owner does not want to pay MORE into unemployment, pay MORE for health insurance and pay MORE corporate taxes and pay MORE capital gains taxes and pay MORE for energy (cap and trade)...

Becuase if we do need to PAY MORE....we will not be able to hire.

Not rocket science.

 

[jillian]

How could you refute this liberals?

I don't blame you keeping quiet.

you still think you're worth "debating"?

 

[Jarhead]

Maybe you feel it's OK to give all power and resources in this country to corporations, but most people in this country don't want that. Spin it all you want, but who cares about the whining of an overpaid CEO? Seriously. And isn't Obama's message speaking of small businesses, the backbone of this country? Verizon is not a small business.

you're right, he's only the CEO of a company that employs tens of thousands and provides services to tens of millions. what would he know about the subject of job creation? what is your definition of overpaid?

Overpaid is defined as more than "I" would pay the man.

Problem is, none of us are in a position to make that assumption....but so many feel they are qualified to do so.

If only they knew what "pure competiton" is...it does not simply refer to price setting. It refers to wage setting as well.

Yet so many people have no issue supporting their favorite basketball team where the players make 300K for 40 minutes of playing time. That TOO is based on pure competition.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Maybe you feel it's OK to give all power and resources in this country to corporations, but most people in this country don't want that. Spin it all you want, but who cares about the whining of an overpaid CEO? Seriously. And isn't Obama's message speaking of small businesses, the backbone of this country? Verizon is not a small business.

What does Obama's anti-business policies have to do with "giving all power to corporations?"

You liberals crack me up. The minute you know you are losing an argument, you start claiming the other side is really for this or that, when it's NEVER BEEN ADVOCATED.

No one is advocating, all power go to anyone BUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. That's where the power is supposed to reside, remember? "Of the people, by the people, and for the people." Remember that?

But, Obama's anti-business strategy has completely been a FAILURE.

I hate to break it to you capitalism haters, but BUSINESS IS WHERE THE JOBS ARE, NOT THE GOVERNMENT.

I know that will be hard to wrap your mind around, but do try.

 

[teapartysamurai]

How could you refute this liberals?

I don't blame you keeping quiet.

you still think you're worth "debating"?

Of course I'm not. I kick your ass everytime you try and reveal the fundamental failure of liberalism in ANY debate.

Of course you guys don't want to debate me.

Liberals will tell you who they fear. The more derisive they become, they more they tell you, they are scared to death of that person.

Palin and I share the same hairbrush around here.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

http://www.daddyhogwash.com/2010/07...required-viewing-section-of-daddyhogwash-com/

George Carlin could see it. Why can't righties see it?

 

[teapartysamurai]

Maybe you feel it's OK to give all power and resources in this country to corporations, but most people in this country don't want that. Spin it all you want, but who cares about the whining of an overpaid CEO? Seriously. And isn't Obama's message speaking of small businesses, the backbone of this country? Verizon is not a small business.

you're right, he's only the CEO of a company that employs tens of thousands and provides services to tens of millions. what would he know about the subject of job creation? what is your definition of overpaid?

Overpaid is defined as more than "I" would pay the man.

Problem is, none of us are in a position to make that assumption....but so many feel they are qualified to do so.

If only they knew what "pure competiton" is...it does not simply refer to price setting. It refers to wage setting as well.

Yet so many people have no issue supporting their favorite basketball team where the players make 300K for 40 minutes of playing time. That TOO is based on pure competition.

How about let the marketplace and shareholders decide that and have the government butt out?

 

[Vel]

Maybe you feel it's OK to give all power and resources in this country to corporations, but most people in this country don't want that. Spin it all you want, but who cares about the whining of an overpaid CEO? Seriously. And isn't Obama's message speaking of small businesses, the backbone of this country? Verizon is not a small business.

If Obama thinks that small businesses are the "backbone of the country", then why don't you explain the entrepreneur killing provisions regarding 1099's in the ObamaCare bill? How many companies do you think are going to try to streamline the number of vendors they use because of that? What do you think its going to happen to new vendors trying to break into a market under those terms?

 

[Mr. Peepers]

you're right, he's only the CEO of a company that employs tens of thousands and provides services to tens of millions. what would he know about the subject of job creation? what is your definition of overpaid?

Yes, they provide an overpriced service in a marketplace in which they collude with other "services" to keep base communications rates high.

Verizon and AT&T deny collusion on texting prices | Reuters

And Verizon is CUTTING jobs. They are not hiring.

Verizon to cut 13,000 jobs, posts fourth-quarter loss - Jan. 26, 2010

 

[Jarhead]

you're right, he's only the CEO of a company that employs tens of thousands and provides services to tens of millions. what would he know about the subject of job creation? what is your definition of overpaid?

Overpaid is defined as more than "I" would pay the man.

Problem is, none of us are in a position to make that assumption....but so many feel they are qualified to do so.

If only they knew what "pure competiton" is...it does not simply refer to price setting. It refers to wage setting as well.

Yet so many people have no issue supporting their favorite basketball team where the players make 300K for 40 minutes of playing time. That TOO is based on pure competition.

How about let the marketplace and shareholders decide that and have the government butt out?

That is the irony.
The stock holders are fine with the salaries.

Seems only the government is against it...and maybe some others that are not stockholders.

It is sort of like me telling my neighbor that I do not like her carpeting so she should change it immediately.

If you dont like the way a company operates, do not buy stock in it and do not buy it's product or use its service.

Whats the big deal here?

 

[Jarhead]

you're right, he's only the CEO of a company that employs tens of thousands and provides services to tens of millions. what would he know about the subject of job creation? what is your definition of overpaid?

Yes, they provide an overpriced service in a marketplace in which they collude with other "services" to keep base communications rates high.

Verizon and AT&T deny collusion on texting prices | Reuters

And Verizon is CUTTING jobs. They are not hiring.

Verizon to cut 13,000 jobs, posts fourth-quarter loss - Jan. 26, 2010

Verizon and Optimum have a serious ad campaign against each other going on here in the NYC area. Collusiuon is a theory that is absurd.

And laying off in a recession when the government is threatening initiatives that will cost companies of Verizons size billions? How absurd!

 

[teapartysamurai]

you're right, he's only the CEO of a company that employs tens of thousands and provides services to tens of millions. what would he know about the subject of job creation? what is your definition of overpaid?

Yes, they provide an overpriced service in a marketplace in which they collude with other "services" to keep base communications rates high.

Verizon and AT&T deny collusion on texting prices | Reuters

And Verizon is CUTTING jobs. They are not hiring.

Verizon to cut 13,000 jobs, posts fourth-quarter loss - Jan. 26, 2010

NO ONE IS HIRING RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Helloooooooooooooooooooooooo, the reason being, is Obama's policies!!!!!

Don't be fooled by this guy. He's trying to get us all on the subject of stupid Verizon, to get off the subject HE DOES NOT WANT TO TALK ABOUT and that's the failure of Obamanomics.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

How about let the marketplace and shareholders decide that and have the government butt out?

But the marketplace is greedy and corrupt. What to do? Why is it fair that the CEO of a company makes 400-700x that of the average worker... who actually WORKS and makes the money for the company?

 

[Mr. Peepers]

NO ONE IS HIRING RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Helloooooooooooooooooooooooo, the reason being, is Obama's policies!!!!!

Um, no. The collapse started in 2006 and was the result of Wall Street and mortgage lenders. It had nothing to do with Obama. More people are hiring now than they were in 2008 and 2009.

 

[cad]

How about let the marketplace and shareholders decide that and have the government butt out?

But the marketplace is greedy and corrupt. What to do? Why is it fair that the CEO of a company makes 400-700x that of the average worker... who actually WORKS and makes the money for the company?

so the CEO does nothing? really? warren buffet means nothing to berkshire hathaway. steve jobs doesn't mean more to apple than the store salesperson. bill gates had nothing to do with the success of microsoft. anyone else could have done what jack welch did at GE.

 

[cad]

How about let the marketplace and shareholders decide that and have the government butt out?

But the marketplace is greedy and corrupt. What to do? Why is it fair that the CEO of a company makes 400-700x that of the average worker... who actually WORKS and makes the money for the company?

what is your definition of fair?