Discussion in 'Congress' started by Modbert, Oct 15, 2008.
I didn't realize Teddy was running for president.
Good Morning! Instead of reading all twenty pages of debate opinions, let me take a guess.
The dims think Obama won, and the pubs think McCain won.
Am I close?
yeah, he's running against bush, too
Too bad McCain isn't.
oh, i think teddy and obama are enough to keep george busy.
No.. I personally put the situation of No Child Left Behind on Bush and his administration... it's his baby... had some good thoughts behind it, but it's application has left a lot to be desired... a good step to learn from though.... it was a step in the right direction that exposed a lot of flaws that need to be corrected..
And many things that Bush has done wrong has not been just because of reaching across the aisle, but reaching across the aisle on the wrong things... there is a time and place for compromise on some issues.. I think he has poorly chosen the times to do so
He didn't fund No Child Left Behind. That was the fatal flaw. And McCain wants a spending freeze across the board too. How's he going to help autistic children and at the same time cut funding for it?
FIRST TIME POSTING!
Quick background: I'm an independent, I consider both candidates competent (plus many 3rd party candidates), but Palin is the reason i absolutely will NOT vote for McCain.
Why didn't anyone ask McCain if his spending freeze included Military spending?
Across the board is EVERYTHING, right?
I would have liked to see how hard he would have back tracked on that one.
Funding was a problem, but so is much of the way it is implemented... there is no doubt behind that... but it was indeed something that I believe was a step in the right direction, but also something to learn from and improve
First welcome to the board
Second, McCain has already said his spending freeeze would not include military, he said it in the last debate.
Otter, you're dead on...although I think I saw a few repubs who thought Obama won....
This was the best debate of the there IMO. They actually got into the issues and took each other on directly.
Obama looked calm and confident and gave decent answers although I wish he'd dig a lil deeper on the specifics.
I liked his answers on abortion, health care and education.
McCain looked angry and bitter IMO. I could hear what sounded like grunting and groaning as Obama spoke. The visuals of his eye rolling also disturbed me. His correcting Bob on the control v. climate thing also reeked of nastiness. Why go out of your way to make someone look stupid? everyone knew what Bob meant.
I thought he gave good answers on energy. But his drill now stance doesn't reflect the reality that even if they drilled today we wouldn't see results for at least 10-15 years. He acts like they can just tape the well and he'll hit crude like he's Jeb Clampet or something.
The worst moment for McCain IMO was when he put the air quotes around the mother's "health" issue regarding abortion.
The whole "joe the plumber" thing got tired after the first few times.
I thought Obama answered the Ayers question perfectly. I do wish he had addressed using the ACORN subsidiary for voter reigstration but the truth is not many Americans give a crap out that so it didn't hurt him IMO.
I'd say Obama won on style and substance. He just "looks" like the President. McCain looks like my grumpy old neighbor who is always yelling to not let my dog shit on his lawn, even though I have a fenced in yard and my dog never goes on his yard.
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