Obama leads in 14 of 16 Ohio Polls

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    Obama leads in 14 of 16 Ohio Polls. (The other two polls are tied.)


    Mitt Romney is trying to lie his way to victory in Ohio, and the Obama campaign has responded by calling out the lie and the liar.


    The Obama campaign is stopping Romney’s Jeep to China lie dead in its tracks with a tough new ad that delivers the facts, and calls Romney a liar.


    Here is the ad:


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iE5wBfM1LQ"]Collapse - Obama for America TV Ad - YouTube[/ame]


    The script for the ad reads, “When the auto industry faced collapse, Mitt Romney turned his back. Even the conservative Detroit News criticized Romney for his ‘wrong-headedness’ on the bailout. And now, after Romney’s false claim of Jeep outsourcing to China, Chrysler ITSELF has refuted Romney’s lie. The truth? Jeep is ADDING jobs in Ohio. Mitt Romney on Ohio jobs? Wrong Then. Mitt Romney: ‘Let Detroit go bankrupt.’ Dishonest Now.”

    In the span of 30 seconds, the Obama campaign called Romney both a liar and dishonest. The problem for Romney is that Ohio voters aren’t going to be fooled by his last ditch gambit to scare them into supporting him. During a conference call with reporters today, UAW Region 2B Director Ken Lortz summed up the reaction to Romney’s desperate tactics as, “The people of Toledo and North Ohio are being subjected to this filth and we won’t tolerate it.”

    Obama campaign manager Jim Messina pointed out that Romney is getting desperate, so he released an ad that everyone knows is false. The fact that Romney ran this ad tells you a lot about him and where he stands in Ohio. The reality is that Romney is trailing in 14 of the 16 most recent polls released in the state. (The other two polls are tied.) Even though Romney isn’t leading a single poll of the state, many in the mainstream media continue to push the Romney campaign’s spin that the state is a toss up. As Nate Silver keeps pointing out, the data shows that the state isn’t a toss up. Obama is the favorite to win in Ohio.​

    Desperate campaigns do things like intentionally twisting a Bloomberg article so that they can claim that Jeep is moving jobs to China when the opposite is true. The Romney campaign has been backing their lies about Jeeps with bluffs about momentum. They are also bluffing about expanding the map, and their biggest bluff of all is the idea that Ohio is somehow up for grabs.
    The hard data coming out about early voting doesn’t lie. Obama is piling up big leads in Ohio, Nevada, Iowa, and the president is doing well in North Carolina. Romney currently leads in zero battleground states. Mitt Romney had to have Ohio. He is not getting it, so his campaign is subtly starting to spin away from Ohio by claiming that Wisconsin is the new Ohio, and Minnesota is the new Ohio.​

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    Who would of thought the October surprise would be coming from Romney? Apparently shooting himself in the foot is his latest strategy. Kiss OH and MI good-bye, Mitt! :bye1:
     
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    Obama leads what ???
     
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    The USA for 4 more years. Mitt screwed the pooch by lying about Jeeps-to-China.
     
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    The 2 Romney leads in have something in common. They are the most Recent. The 12 you are counting for Obama include polls taken as much as 3 weeks ago.

    But nice try.
     
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    Who lead 16 polls ago is irrelevant. It's the trend we're seeing in the recent ones that will be a better reflection of the upcoming results.
     
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    Kerry led in all the exit polls in Ohio in 2004.
     
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    Was it Republican puppy Walden O'Dell or did Tagg Romney own voting machines in Ohio way back in 2004 too?


    New voter registration numbers in Ohio heavily favor Obama. Four in five Ohioans (81 percent) who have registered to vote in 2012 are either female, younger than 30, or African-American or Latino. 64 percent of Ohioans who have registered to vote in 2012, and the same percentage among those who have already voted, live in counties that President Obama won in 2008.

    The polling numbers for early voting in Ohio also back up what the Obama campaign is saying. A Survey USA poll found that Obama leads by 19 points (57/38) among those who have already. PPP found that Obama leads by 52 points (76%-24%) in Ohio early voting. The Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll found Obama leading Romney, 63%-37% with early voters. Even Republican pollster Rasmussen has Obama leading big in Ohio early voting, 63%-34%.

    Recent early voting numbers in Ohio back up the Obama campaign’s claim that early voting is up for Obama and down for Romney. 582,402 ballots have been requested this year from precincts that Obama won in 2008, 33,414 more than in from precincts that McCain won.The total number of votes already cast this year (both by mail and in-person) from precincts Obama won in 2008 is 261,304 – 55,636 more than from precincts McCain won.

    When people worry about the voting machines in Ohio, one of the things that must be considered is that the election has to be close enough to be stolen. During the conference call, both Axelrod and Messina suggested that their goal was to pile up huge margins in the early voting swing states that would make the math for Romney difficult to impossible to overcome on Election Day.

    I am a believer in the importance of vigilance against election fraud. I think letting the people who would cheat know that we are watching them does serve as a deterrent, but what must be kept in mind is that election must be close enough to be stolen.

    Only a fool would believe that Romney wouldn’t cheat if given the chance, but the purpose of the Obama ground game is to pile up a big lead in early voting, so that the Republican Party doesn’t get their chance to pull any Election Day shenanigans in Ohio.



    Privatizing voting machines was and is just another Republican scam.
     
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    Obama's lead has been constant for about 2 weeks. Around 2 points.
     
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