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And here is from another link:
The national median sales price of existing homes fell on a year-over-year basis for the fourteenth straight month in January, although the pace of decline was the slowest since December 2010 at -2.0%. Distressed sales (foreclosures and short sales that typically sell at steep discounts) accounted for 35% of total sales, compared to 32% in the prior month and 37% in January 2011. All-cash sales, which largely represent purchases by investors, made up 31% of transactions, were unchanged from December, and down from 32% January 2011.
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In other words, the market has hit bottom. It has nothing to do with Obama and, in fact, has probably been exacerbated by his meddling.
This proves one thing....Chris, you are a moron.
I posted links that prove everything I said, and so now you insult me.
When you have the facts, argue the facts.
When you have the law, argue the law.
When you have neither, bang on the table.
You are now banging on the table.
debunked don't you mean?
Rebecca, here's the hard truth.
You are not that bright. You're a typical Obama-deranged lunatic, who will readily absorb, and repeat as fact, any spurious information you can get your hands on, so long as it's pejorative towards Obama. It's very obvious. You're flailing in this thread, as you usually are.
The problem is, there are enough other Obama-deranged lunatics who aren't that bright lurking around here to fluff your insecurities and make you feel like you have a fuck's worth of a clue what you're talking about. But, you don't.
Chris made factual statements and you're 'Refuting' them with dubious non-sequiturs.
Arguments against Chris's and my own POV do exist, but you are not nearly smart enough to articulate them.
He made factual statements refuting mine? So your going with that and disreguarding the links I posted? No chris was debunked.I posted links that prove everything I said, and so now you insult me.
When you have the facts, argue the facts.
When you have the law, argue the law.
When you have neither, bang on the table.
You are now banging on the table.
debunked don't you mean?
Rebecca, here's the hard truth.
You are not that bright. You're a typical Obama-deranged lunatic, who will readily absorb, and repeat as fact, any spurious information you can get your hands on, so long as it's pejorative towards Obama. It's very obvious. You're flailing in this thread, as you usually are.
The problem is, there are enough other Obama-deranged lunatics who aren't that bright lurking around here to fluff your insecurities and make you feel like you have a fuck's worth of a clue what you're talking about. But, you don't.
Chris made factual statements and you're 'Refuting' them with dubious non-sequiturs.
Arguments against Chris's and my own POV do exist, but you are not nearly smart enough to articulate them.
debunked don't you mean?
Rebecca, here's the hard truth.
You are not that bright. You're a typical Obama-deranged lunatic, who will readily absorb, and repeat as fact, any spurious information you can get your hands on, so long as it's pejorative towards Obama. It's very obvious. You're flailing in this thread, as you usually are.
The problem is, there are enough other Obama-deranged lunatics who aren't that bright lurking around here to fluff your insecurities and make you feel like you have a fuck's worth of a clue what you're talking about. But, you don't.
Chris made factual statements and you're 'Refuting' them with dubious non-sequiturs.
Arguments against Chris's and my own POV do exist, but you are not nearly smart enough to articulate them.
Sorry Rhodent, but Chris made few factual statements at all. He posts a lot of links that we are supposed to somehow figure out to support his arguments.
Never, and I mean never, have I seen him actually articulate the connects needed to represent an argument.
It is little more than spam.
He is getting what he deserves.
GDP has been growing since 2009.
The stock market has doubled since 2009.
Americans net worth is up $9 trillion dollars since 2009.
3.7 million private sector jobs have been created since 2009.
Auto sales are up.
Retail sales are up.
Home sales are up.
Unemployment is down.
GM was saved, and is now the number one automaker in the world.
He posted the link. and it was refutedAnd here is from another link:
The national median sales price of existing homes fell on a year-over-year basis for the fourteenth straight month in January, although the pace of decline was the slowest since December 2010 at -2.0%. Distressed sales (foreclosures and short sales that typically sell at steep discounts) accounted for 35% of total sales, compared to 32% in the prior month and 37% in January 2011. All-cash sales, which largely represent purchases by investors, made up 31% of transactions, were unchanged from December, and down from 32% January 2011.
****************8
In other words, the market has hit bottom. It has nothing to do with Obama and, in fact, has probably been exacerbated by his meddling.
This proves one thing....Chris, you are a moron.
At the level to which home prices were artificially inflated, doesn't it stand to reason that they would "Fall" from those false highs?
But Chris didn't make any claims related to home prices.
So you refute his claim about home sales with a non-sequitur.
He made factual statements refuting mine? So your going with that and disreguarding the links I posted? No chris was debunked.debunked don't you mean?
Rebecca, here's the hard truth.
You are not that bright. You're a typical Obama-deranged lunatic, who will readily absorb, and repeat as fact, any spurious information you can get your hands on, so long as it's pejorative towards Obama. It's very obvious. You're flailing in this thread, as you usually are.
The problem is, there are enough other Obama-deranged lunatics who aren't that bright lurking around here to fluff your insecurities and make you feel like you have a fuck's worth of a clue what you're talking about. But, you don't.
Chris made factual statements and you're 'Refuting' them with dubious non-sequiturs.
Arguments against Chris's and my own POV do exist, but you are not nearly smart enough to articulate them.
And here is from another link:
The national median sales price of existing homes fell on a year-over-year basis for the fourteenth straight month in January, although the pace of decline was the slowest since December 2010 at -2.0%. Distressed sales (foreclosures and short sales that typically sell at steep discounts) accounted for 35% of total sales, compared to 32% in the prior month and 37% in January 2011. All-cash sales, which largely represent purchases by investors, made up 31% of transactions, were unchanged from December, and down from 32% January 2011.
****************8
In other words, the market has hit bottom. It has nothing to do with Obama and, in fact, has probably been exacerbated by his meddling.
This proves one thing....Chris, you are a moron.
At the level to which home prices were artificially inflated, doesn't it stand to reason that they would "Fall" from those false highs?
But Chris didn't make any claims related to home prices.
So you refute his claim about home sales with a non-sequitur.
You only agree with Chris because you both believe the same lie. Chris is a turkey stick a fork in him, because he's done.He made factual statements refuting mine? So your going with that and disreguarding the links I posted? No chris was debunked.Rebecca, here's the hard truth.
You are not that bright. You're a typical Obama-deranged lunatic, who will readily absorb, and repeat as fact, any spurious information you can get your hands on, so long as it's pejorative towards Obama. It's very obvious. You're flailing in this thread, as you usually are.
The problem is, there are enough other Obama-deranged lunatics who aren't that bright lurking around here to fluff your insecurities and make you feel like you have a fuck's worth of a clue what you're talking about. But, you don't.
Chris made factual statements and you're 'Refuting' them with dubious non-sequiturs.
Arguments against Chris's and my own POV do exist, but you are not nearly smart enough to articulate them.
His metaphor about banging the table is quite accurate.
Rebecca, here's the hard truth.
You are not that bright. You're a typical Obama-deranged lunatic, who will readily absorb, and repeat as fact, any spurious information you can get your hands on, so long as it's pejorative towards Obama. It's very obvious. You're flailing in this thread, as you usually are.
The problem is, there are enough other Obama-deranged lunatics who aren't that bright lurking around here to fluff your insecurities and make you feel like you have a fuck's worth of a clue what you're talking about. But, you don't.
Chris made factual statements and you're 'Refuting' them with dubious non-sequiturs.
Arguments against Chris's and my own POV do exist, but you are not nearly smart enough to articulate them.
Sorry Rhodent, but Chris made few factual statements at all. He posts a lot of links that we are supposed to somehow figure out to support his arguments.
Never, and I mean never, have I seen him actually articulate the connects needed to represent an argument.
It is little more than spam.
He is getting what he deserves.
GDP has been growing since 2009.
The stock market has doubled since 2009.
Americans net worth is up $9 trillion dollars since 2009.
3.7 million private sector jobs have been created since 2009.
Auto sales are up.
Retail sales are up.
Home sales are up.
Unemployment is down.
GM was saved, and is now the number one automaker in the world.
These are factual statements (though some are, let's say 'Ambiguous').
Regardless of how much Anti-Obama vitriol you have 'on your side,' you can't 'debate' your way out of them.
Causation, yes.
But the factual events? No. They are in fact true.
Sorry Rhodent, but Chris made few factual statements at all. He posts a lot of links that we are supposed to somehow figure out to support his arguments.
Never, and I mean never, have I seen him actually articulate the connects needed to represent an argument.
It is little more than spam.
He is getting what he deserves.
GDP has been growing since 2009.
The stock market has doubled since 2009.
Americans net worth is up $9 trillion dollars since 2009.
3.7 million private sector jobs have been created since 2009.
Auto sales are up.
Retail sales are up.
Home sales are up.
Unemployment is down.
GM was saved, and is now the number one automaker in the world.
These are factual statements (though some are, let's say 'Ambiguous').
Regardless of how much Anti-Obama vitriol you have 'on your side,' you can't 'debate' your way out of them.
Causation, yes.
But the factual events? No. They are in fact true.
In some cases yet.
GM wasn't saved....it was reformed by the government. They didn't save anything except a lot of union jobs. GM went bankrupt.
It can be argued that unemployment has not come down due to those leaving the work search. That has been discussed on this board.
As to the conclusions Chris reaches with his facts and quasi-facts...bullcrap.
Obama will go down as one of the worst presidents in history.
Don't wait too long. Chrissy has already flown the coop long time ago...he had to go check his FAX machine for more talking points even as to whom he claimed he voted for today which I belive as much as i can throw him...which I cannot...
General Motors Is World’s Top-Selling Automaker - ABC News
U.S. January Existing Home Sales Rise to Highest Level Since May 2010 - Forex Analysis, Currency Forecast, FX Trading Signal - Action Forex
2011 Retail Sales Strongest Since ’99 - ABC News
Bottom Line - 2011 car sales end with a surge
CBO finds 3.7M jobs created by stimulus - The Hill's On The Money
FRB: Z.1 Release--B.100--Balance Sheet of Households and Nonprofit Organizations--December 8, 2011
US unemployment down to 8.3% as 243,00 jobs added in January | Business | guardian.co.uk
GM after the bailout built a new plant is low wage non union Mexico
If GM is doing so good why did they just layoff 1300 workers? Why didn't they transfer them to other departments?
New home sales are at an all time low
New-home sales dropped in December - Jan. 26, 2012
European shares closed lower with disappointing U.S. retail sales adding to investors' concerns after Moody's downgraded six euro zone countries late on Monday.
News Headlines
Anwyl Sees U.S. Auto Sales `Cooling Down' in Early 2012
Anwyl Sees U.S. Auto Sales `Cooling Down' in Early 2012 - The Washington Post
Where are those jobs?[/QUOTE]
Well I have averaged about 15 - 20 active contracts at a time since the market crashed under Bush in late 2008. At least until about 5 months ago. Now we have over 150 contracts to find high-end employees (those whose income is $200K - $1M+) for our clients. I've even had to hire someone to head up a new division doing nothing but middle class job contracts ($50 - $120K / year) because we've gotten a surge in demand for those.
So yes, as someone who owns a national executive recruiting firm, I can confirm from personal observation that unemployment is going down.
No they should not compromise with people whom they have nothing in common with. Let's compromise abortion will be illegal in all states but the state you live in. Hows that for a compromise?
Typical weakling tactic: Imply that ANY compromise must be something so extreme and whack, that ALL compromise must be. So your view is that the Dems should NEVER compromise with the Republicans on anything - the budget, deficit, taxes, nothing. Got it.
Every poll I have seen clearly and overwhelmingly shows that a huge majority of Americans want bi-partisanship/compromise.
Successful businesses look at a variety of ideas and often blend ideas to be successful. Small-minded and narrow thinking leads to failure. Ask any successful company which is the best approach.
Absolutely. Everyone but the extremist whackjobs wants a government that functions. Guess what? Grown-ups know that takes compromise. Whiny little whackjobs can stomp their feet and throw tantrums all they want but that doesn't mean that everyone in the entire country wants exactly what they do.
Compromise got us where we are...Jackass. The PEOPLE end up holding the short straw.
YOU really ARE an idiot, and an Obama acolyte.
YOU fool no one.
Are you in favor of the one we have now? Remember this current government voted for and signed into law the NDAA 2012Typical weakling tactic: Imply that ANY compromise must be something so extreme and whack, that ALL compromise must be. So your view is that the Dems should NEVER compromise with the Republicans on anything - the budget, deficit, taxes, nothing. Got it.
Absolutely. Everyone but the extremist whackjobs wants a government that functions. Guess what? Grown-ups know that takes compromise. Whiny little whackjobs can stomp their feet and throw tantrums all they want but that doesn't mean that everyone in the entire country wants exactly what they do.
Compromise got us where we are...Jackass. The PEOPLE end up holding the short straw.
YOU really ARE an idiot, and an Obama acolyte.
YOU fool no one.
So, you are in favor of dysfunctional government? You know, it was a player in what drove down the US's credit rating? That'a boy!
Are you in favor of the one we have now? Remember this current government voted for and signed into law the NDAA 2012Compromise got us where we are...Jackass. The PEOPLE end up holding the short straw.
YOU really ARE an idiot, and an Obama acolyte.
YOU fool no one.
So, you are in favor of dysfunctional government? You know, it was a player in what drove down the US's credit rating? That'a boy!
He made factual statements refuting mine? So your going with that and disreguarding the links I posted? No chris was debunked.Rebecca, here's the hard truth.
You are not that bright. You're a typical Obama-deranged lunatic, who will readily absorb, and repeat as fact, any spurious information you can get your hands on, so long as it's pejorative towards Obama. It's very obvious. You're flailing in this thread, as you usually are.
The problem is, there are enough other Obama-deranged lunatics who aren't that bright lurking around here to fluff your insecurities and make you feel like you have a fuck's worth of a clue what you're talking about. But, you don't.
Chris made factual statements and you're 'Refuting' them with dubious non-sequiturs.
Arguments against Chris's and my own POV do exist, but you are not nearly smart enough to articulate them.
His metaphor about banging the table is quite accurate.
Are you in favor of the one we have now? Remember this current government voted for and signed into law the NDAA 2012Compromise got us where we are...Jackass. The PEOPLE end up holding the short straw.
YOU really ARE an idiot, and an Obama acolyte.
YOU fool no one.
So, you are in favor of dysfunctional government? You know, it was a player in what drove down the US's credit rating? That'a boy!
He made factual statements refuting mine? So your going with that and disreguarding the links I posted? No chris was debunked.
His metaphor about banging the table is quite accurate.
Exactly.
This guy is living in an alternative universe where up is down and black is white.
The economy has been improving since 2009.
The stimulus helped.
The stock market doubled.
No amount of whinning on the right is going to change these facts.
Are you in favor of the one we have now? Remember this current government voted for and signed into law the NDAA 2012So, you are in favor of dysfunctional government? You know, it was a player in what drove down the US's credit rating? That'a boy!
Interestingly enough, you bring up something that demonstrates Liberals being more willing to criticize their own. They overwhelmingly objected to Obama signing NDAA.
Also, you do realize of course that the GOP overwhelmingly supported the NDAA with the senate vote tally being 83 Y, 13 N, 1 Ab, right?
That Romney openly supports it?
You think I support a mirror image of obama?That Romney openly supports it
he made factual statements refuting mine? So your going with that and disreguarding the links i posted? No chris was debunked.
his metaphor about banging the table is quite accurate.
exactly.
This guy is living in an alternative universe where up is down and black is white.
The economy has been improving since 2009. no it has not
the stimulus helped. which stimulus 1 2 or the next one obama wants
the stock market doubled. the market is not an indicator of a health economy
no amount of whinning on the right is going to change these facts.
Now now... Romney's not a mirror image of Obama. Mind you I'm very very leary of him and don't know how much of an improvement he would be... but at least I do not believe that Romney desires to harm this nation or convert it into Venezuela on the grand scale.Are you in favor of the one we have now? Remember this current government voted for and signed into law the NDAA 2012
Interestingly enough, you bring up something that demonstrates Liberals being more willing to criticize their own. They overwhelmingly objected to Obama signing NDAA.
Also, you do realize of course that the GOP overwhelmingly supported the NDAA with the senate vote tally being 83 Y, 13 N, 1 Ab, right?
That Romney openly supports it?
You think I support a mirror image of obama?That Romney openly supports it
