Obama Gutting The Military Despite What He Says

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    A matter of weeks after screwing the pooch in Iraq Obama is doing what I knew he would do even before he was elected. Bush just spent 7 years rebuilding the military and Obama like the liberal he is decimates it. If a Republican wins in November the cycle will repeat itself.

    Obama wants us to think the threats are gone. Actually Iran is proving they're worse. However, Obama has a plan. Gut the military to pay for his social programs and then hope nobody starts anything with whatever resources we have left.

    Today we were told not to talk about our opinions on this matter while at work. Sounds like the orders we received when I was still on a team. Don't bad-mouth the ignorant SOB or face charges.

    Screw it.

    An American and a N Korean are sitting in this bar and the the American turns to the guy and asks "Kim Jong Il's son is now your leader" he says sarcasticly. "How can you put someone with zero leadership expirience in charge of your military??"

    The N Korean turns to him and says with a grin "You should talk......at least our President isn't afraid of Victory".



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    Man this is the worst time for this, we need our Military to be in its best shape right now.
     
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    I don't think Obama cares.

    He knows the press will support him.

    It's a risk he's williing to take.

    He's shifting more to Asia and away from the Middle East.....which means Israel is on their own along with Europe.
     
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    Than what are we going to do about Iran if they close the strait of Hormuz?
     
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    Most of the expense of the rebuild went to new equipment, new armored vehicles, fuel for ships and planes, upgrades on garrison facilities.

    Now all of that will go to waste. Civilian job positions aren't being filled. New facilities needing maintainance are already falling into decay. There is only so much fat you can trim from an already lean fighting force. But Obama thinks he can bullshit us into thinking he'll make the military better. He just wants something smaller and less expensive. He wants to turn us into a second-rate world power. None of his flowery words will prevent that.
     
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    I wrote on here when Panetta was named SECDEF that he was sent there to dismantle the place. Military end-strength goes way down during Democrat administrations. No surprise here. This time it will be worse. They are going after pay, retirement, and health care benefits. Not cool Mr. Prez.
     
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    I am trying to discover exactly what he or that is the dod intends on defunding or lowering funding for.

    It seems to early to tell yet but based upon his remarks I'll wing some remarks;

    he said that he wishes to focus on the pacific. I made the same argument here a while ago, 13 carrier grps., strong Marine Expeditionary forces ( 3 full divisions with air assets) and a strong air force.

    yet, he has stopped the F-22 at 187 aircraft, which will not nearly replace the air forces air superiority platforms, the F-15 particularly (approx. 480 variants active).

    the F-35 he plans on cutting back as well ( I would build more F-22's and forgo the 35 entirely but thats me).



    the Gerald Ford class carrier, the next class in line to replace the Nimitz class has been cut from 5 ( bush cut them to 4, Obama has cut them to 2, with a 3rd a 'maybe).

    cutting back marines and the air force and carrier grps doesn't sound like he is fulfilling his own vision so far.

    I have no issue with slimming the army ground forces, 1 Armour, 2 mechanized inf. div's are fine in my humble opinion, keep the mountain div., the 82, 101st and assorted special ops units etc.
     
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    Blow them the fuck out of the water.

    I'm more worried about the overall capabilities of Russia, China, or anyone else that decides to try something. We won't be able to respond.....which is exactly what Obama wants. He doesn't want to respond. Maybe some bombing missions like in Libya, but we won't have a decent standing Army. He would rather we become Canada.
     
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    I hate to keep you up on current events....but it's obvious politics is the driving force for every one of his decisions.

    He doesn't really have to know what he's doing but he needs to listen to his commanders. Problem is he thinks he knows more than they do.
     
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    I wonder how many enlistment contracts will be illegally broken this time?

    damn

    I have to give Bill Clinton some credit; He was smart enough to gut the military in a time of peace, not war.

    Damn, big 0 is dumber than I thought humanly possible.
     

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