Obama does not lower flags for Tennessee shooting

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Flags at Half-Staff After Chattanooga Shooting snopes.com

In the wake of the Chattanooga tragedy, the governors of several states directed their state flags to be flown at half-staff to honor the victims of those shootings, such as Tennessee (where the attack occurred), Massachusetts (where one of the killed Marines hailed from), and Arkansas (where another of the killed Marines hailed from).

A number of commenters noted with puzzlement or dismay that President Obama did not direct that the U.S. flag similarly be lowered to half-staff at the White House and other public buildings in memorial of the slain U.S. servicemen:


There are numerous reports on the Internet that the White House did not lower the flags to half staff following the shooting of 4 marines (and now a 5th serviceman who is navy) in Chattanooga Tennessee (July 2015).

There were orders by the President for flags to be flown at half-staff following the shootings at Fort Hood, the Aurora Century Theater, Virginia Tech, and Sandy Hook. Why the difference?
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Indeed, the White House web site does not record President Obama’s having issued any proclamation to that effect, nor do flag notification sites. And it is true that President Obama issued proclamations ordering the flag of the United States be flown at half-staff following similar events such as the mass shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, in December 2012, and the Boston Marathon bombing of April 2013.

Some have speculated that the lack of a presidential proclamation might be because as tragic and senseless as they were, the Chattanooga deaths involved members of the U.S. armed forces who are considered to have been killed in the line of duty (unlike the other mass shooting events referenced above, which involved civilian deaths), and while individual states often lower their flags to honor local natives or residents who die in the service of their country, doing so at a national level would require the President to pick and choose among service deaths to decide which to so honor.

Others noted that that speculation seemingly ran counter to the fact that President Obama did issue a proclamation directing the lowering of U.S. flags after the November 2009 mass shooting at Fort Hood, Texas, that left thirteen people dead and another thirty-two wounded (both military and civilian, although predominantly the former). In the Fort Hood case, however, the shooter was himself a member of the U.S. Army, and the attack was classified as an act of workplace violence.

A meme from previous years that was widely recirculated after the Chattanooga shootings falsely claimed that President Obama had ordered flags to be flown at half-staff following the 2012 death of singer Whitney Houston. That actions was actually a decision made at the state level by New Jersey governor Chris Christie.
 
This is by far more insulting that what Trump said about McCain.

After all, we all know McCain is nothing but a corrupt SOB who tried to cover up the VA scandal in his own state. McCain would rather see his fellow veterans die than spend more on government run health care.
 
Nope, no excuses this time. There is no excuse for this.
 
With so many mass shootings, we'd have those flags at half staff all the time.

Maybe we need to do something to lessen the number of shootings? You know, like pass common sense gun laws?

Naaaaaaaaa.....
 
With so many mass shootings, we'd have those flags at half staff all the time.

Maybe we need to do something to lessen the number of shootings? You know, like pass common sense gun laws?

Naaaaaaaaa.....

We have enough laws. Try to get the black dummy to enforce them

BTW- These were Marines killed. They deserve the respect 1/2 mast would have displayed

-Geaux
 
We have enough laws. Try to get the black dummy to enforce them

BTW- These were Marines killed. They deserve the respect 1/2 mast would have displayed

I think we need to respect them by actually trying to keep this sort of thing from happening again.

Gun laws would help. this guy never should have been able to buy a gun, but once again, he was.
 
With so many mass shootings, we'd have those flags at half staff all the time.

Maybe we need to do something to lessen the number of shootings? You know, like pass common sense gun laws?

Naaaaaaaaa.....
the flag should be at half staff these men were in the military, and targeted because they were in the military. Lets hope Obama gives them their military benefits, unlike he did with the fort hood shooting. Sickening, just sickening this administration is a disgrace
 
Still no order? I had a thread about this up the other day. Unfreaking real.

Jaw droppingly unreal. He could order the flags down for the Aurora shootings, Virginia Tech, Sandy Hook and that ALL FUCKING AMERICAN NELSON MANDELA.....

But not his own Marines.

Wow. Just wow.
 
We have enough laws. Try to get the black dummy to enforce them

BTW- These were Marines killed. They deserve the respect 1/2 mast would have displayed

I think we need to respect them by actually trying to keep this sort of thing from happening again.

Gun laws would help. this guy never should have been able to buy a gun, but once again, he was.

What gun law do you suggest that would have stopped this Muslim from his personal jihad?
 
We have enough laws. Try to get the black dummy to enforce them

BTW- These were Marines killed. They deserve the respect 1/2 mast would have displayed

I think we need to respect them by actually trying to keep this sort of thing from happening again.

Gun laws would help. this guy never should have been able to buy a gun, but once again, he was.

Joe are you crazy? All you need is to put up more "gun free zone signs".
 
We have enough laws. Try to get the black dummy to enforce them

BTW- These were Marines killed. They deserve the respect 1/2 mast would have displayed

I think we need to respect them by actually trying to keep this sort of thing from happening again.

Gun laws would help. this guy never should have been able to buy a gun, but once again, he was.

Joe are you crazy? All you need is to put up more "gun free zone signs".


Yes he is crazy:cuckoo:

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With so many mass shootings, we'd have those flags at half staff all the time.

Maybe we need to do something to lessen the number of shootings? You know, like pass common sense gun laws?

Naaaaaaaaa.....
How many more do you suggest?
How many laws were disregarded during this latest attack?
What new law could have prevented this if the law was already passed?
 
With so many mass shootings, we'd have those flags at half staff all the time.

Maybe we need to do something to lessen the number of shootings? You know, like pass common sense gun laws?

Naaaaaaaaa.....

So Obama lowers the flag for some but not others?

Is it everyday that 6 marines are gunned down?

Like it or not, this sends a message, a very bad message, don't you agree?

How would you feel being the family member of the slain soldiers?

Then again, with Obama in the Oval Office perhaps the flag should be perpetually flown at half mast.
 
With so many mass shootings, we'd have those flags at half staff all the time.

Maybe we need to do something to lessen the number of shootings? You know, like pass common sense gun laws?

Naaaaaaaaa.....
the flag should be at half staff these men were in the military, and targeted because they were in the military. Lets hope Obama gives them their military benefits, unlike he did with the fort hood shooting. Sickening, just sickening this administration is a disgrace

At least the VA did not put them on death lists like so many other veterans are today.

Meanwhile Progs bend over backwards trying to take care of illegals.

This is not only insane, it's criminal.
 

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