Obama compares Gulf spill to September 11

Don't call this disaster Obama's Katrina. Obama says it's like 9/11.

Sorry Mr. President, but I don't think that a terrorist act that killed over 3,000 innocent people can be compared to an accidental oil spill.

But he's not going to miss the chance to make this political. He's going to turn it into a bill that will kill the energy industry.

Obama Compares Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill to 9/11 - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

Rick D.

Here's what he REALLY said, FYI

"In the same way that our view of our vulnerabilities and our foreign policy was shaped profoundly by 9/11 . . . I think this disaster is going to shape how we think about the environment and energy for many years to come," Mr. Obama said in an Oval Office interview Friday.

source

Not exactly the same as is being characterized by the POTUS haters, is it?

In fact, what he said is probably right on the money

If the BP Gulf disaster turns out as badly as it appears it will, it will likely radically alter our thinking about the environment and our energy policy.

I have to give kudos to the right wing noise machine for constantly maintaining a daily talking point. They are experts are picking apart anything Obama says and choosing just the right out-of-context word or phrase that they can pile it on even more. Their audience is so fucking gullible it makes me sick.
 
So you think the oil leak and 911 is a fair comparison?

No one is COMPARING the two events.

They are simply BOTH examples of EVENTS that have profoundly effected US attitudes.

Lemme see if'n ah kin put this here in lingo you maht comprende:

1. An Armadillo is an animal

2. A Longhorn is an animal

3. Armadillos and Longhorns are both animals

Did I say they were the SAME animal??? Same SIZE? Same Color?

No, I did not COMPARE them.

No one is comparing the two events? Did you not read the headline?

Wise up!

That's the problem with dumb shits: They read a headline and assume it tells the whole story, especially if said headline is arranged so that it criticizes Obama.
 
Don't call this disaster Obama's Katrina. Obama says it's like 9/11.

Sorry Mr. President, but I don't think that a terrorist act that killed over 3,000 innocent people can be compared to an accidental oil spill.

But he's not going to miss the chance to make this political. He's going to turn it into a bill that will kill the energy industry.

Obama Compares Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill to 9/11 - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

Rick D.

Here's what he REALLY said, FYI

"In the same way that our view of our vulnerabilities and our foreign policy was shaped profoundly by 9/11 . . . I think this disaster is going to shape how we think about the environment and energy for many years to come," Mr. Obama said in an Oval Office interview Friday.

source

Not exactly the same as is being characterized by the POTUS haters, is it?

In fact, what he said is probably right on the money

If the BP Gulf disaster turns out as badly as it appears it will, it will likely radically alter our thinking about the environment and our energy policy.

I have to give kudos to the right wing noise machine for constantly maintaining a daily talking point. They are experts are picking apart anything Obama says and choosing just the right out-of-context word or phrase that they can pile it on even more. Their audience is so fucking gullible it makes me sick.

OH give it up, like the left wing didn't and don't continue to do so with comments made by BOOSH, Palin, Beck, Rush, etc etc? It's what people do.
 
He's going to turn it into a bill that will kill the energy industry.
Excellent point. Obama proposes revising the tax code in a way that will drive most independent oil and gas producers out of business. Independents drill for and produce 80% of the oil and natural gas in this country. They are mostly comprised of very small family owned companies whose only income is from the oil or gas that is pumped out of the ground.

We should reduce our imports, not reduce our domestic production.

Sorry bout that,

1. So is oil our new enemy?


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Oil has been our enemy since the Carter administration. It was he who coined the phrases "windfall profits" and "obscene profits". Carter had the opportunity to turn this nation around by calling on U.S. energy producers to lead us to independence from foreign soources of hydrocarbons. Instead, he labeled our countrymen as bandits and proceded to confiscate personal property in the guise of the Windfall Profits Tax.

Excellent post. This is the same mis-guided and frightening logic that Obama uses towards businesses in the USA. He believe capitalists are greedy and evil, the cause of all of America's ills. It's this deranged logic that leads Obama to push and push for spreading the wealth and government control over any and all industries and sectors in America. Obama fails to realize that over 80% of Americans are employed by small businesses, who owned by by hard working Americans barely making a profit. yet Obama pushes and pushes for more taxes, more regulation, more government. Obama is a Socialist without a doubt; this disaster will be used by Obama to force more government regulations and control over the oil industry.

I couldn't agree more Biggles. Mr Obama wants to run the country like a dictatorship and other authoritarian regime without any transparency, I say regimes, since we suddenly seem to have no voice in the direction of America. His plan? Maybe that no 'citizen' will have anything more or less than any other citizen, except of course for these manipulative sob's at the top calling all the shots.

People like Obama like to spout off about the 'greedy' but they themselves are the worse offenders, excellent examples of contradiction, and hypocrite to the end. They are not alone.
 
I'd like to know who the "we" are he's referring to. I don't know of anyone besides a few leftwing loons that share those sentiments.

yea b/c this spill isn't the biggest environmental disaster or anything :cuckoo:

Hey stupid, when he said "how we look at it" I took it to mean how we look at the entire oil drilling process and there should be no major changes in that respect. If you understood how many offshore wells have been drilled compared to the number of blowouts like the one in the Gulf, then you would know that the risk are not really all that great. What needs to be looked at is the oil companies as well as the governments response time and effectiveness. They should have immediately ignited the oil and had booms readily available.

Riiight. Ignite the oil which would burn up the booms and probably the people putting them in place. Good one.
 
Don't call this disaster Obama's Katrina. Obama says it's like 9/11.

Sorry Mr. President, but I don't think that a terrorist act that killed over 3,000 innocent people can be compared to an accidental oil spill.

But he's not going to miss the chance to make this political. He's going to turn it into a bill that will kill the energy industry.

Obama Compares Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill to 9/11 - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

Rick D.

Keep in mind this is the same POTUS that decided not to speak with Hayward, yet he would speak with Ahmadinejad with no preconditions.....

This is nothing more than a desperate act to shift the focus away from his response failure......

The deliberate murder of innocent human beings has no meaningful comparison to this oil spill, it would only qualify for the delusional radical element......

You give new meaning to your signature: It is entirely impossible to pick up a turd by the clean end.


you should know. your the turd expert on here
 
Now you're just lying. The Jones Act bullshit is just you repeating bullshit rightwingloon talking points.

Then please enlighten us as to why Obama refused the offers of help from countries with ships capable of skimming millions of gallons of oil from the waters of the gulf?

If indeed his hands were tied by law, surely you can post a link to that law.

i think it is telling of our education system that so many americans lack the historical foundation to understand that for over 150 years the US has not sought foreign state-funded aid, help or support for causes in the western hemisphere from any states in europe as part of the wider-reaching implications of the monroe doctrine.

our 'thanks, but no thanks, we've got it covered' policy is pretty central to our history with respect to circumstances of need such as this and is evident from our civil war (save for southern separatists), clear through to modern tragedy in 9/11, and katrina.

nevertheless, whether through ignorance or partisan bias, some attribute this action to the current government (or bush's in katrina or 9/11). presuming that something like the jones act is preventing much needed foreign vessels from operating in the gulf for the purposes of repair, cleanup or mitigation would be validating of these claims.

to the contrary, this is the reality:
800px-Development-driller-3.jpg

the rig in the foreground (ground? :eusa_think:) is the swiss-owned, singaporean laid, vanuatu registered development driller III
the red rig in the middle is the q4000, an american vessel directly over the spot where the korean made, british owned, marshalls registered deepwater horizon used to be. the boat to the left in the red is the boa sub c, a norwegian vessel that has been at work there since april 20. the other red vessel looks like skandi neptune, which has also been there from the jump.

you decide:
Skandi_Neptune_Atlan_34123b.jpg

the skandi neptune, a norwegian laid and flagged vessel.

one of the vessels in blue are from american firm, oceaneering, the norweigian laid and flagged Ocean Intervention III. i could speculate that the sistership from the same firm is of similar origin, but i only know from here that these three were at sea as early as the 20th.

finally, the largest vessel colored to match its swiss owned/operated co-worker in the front is the discoverer enterprise, built in spain, flagged in the marshalls.

in light of this concerted, commercial, international effort to cap the broke rig last month, one might consider arguments that the jones act is impeding international response to be absolutely rediculous. the only impediment that i see is that there's only so much room for these big-ass ships to operate, and only a few companies have been contracted to do so in light of that. naturally this leaves a world of gracious declines of assistance - just the opportunity for a partisan spin-doctor to run with.
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Not much room in the vicinity for dozens more ten-ton tankers to maneuver in and around each other, even if they were called in.
 
Oh yes, this is just like 9/11. I remember well when Bush visited ground zero and walked around picking up little pieces of body parts like BO did on the beaches picking up little balls of oil.

I don't know how we could get through this crisis without BO. Thank God he is our President.

Another one who wouldn't get it even if it was drawn in his coloring book.
 
Hey stupid, when he said "how we look at it" I took it to mean how we look at the entire oil drilling process and there should be no major changes in that respect. If you understood how many offshore wells have been drilled compared to the number of blowouts like the one in the Gulf, then you would know that the risk are not really all that great. What needs to be looked at is the oil companies as well as the governments response time and effectiveness. They should have immediately ignited the oil and had booms readily available.

Wasn't more oil spilled off the Kuwait coast during the first gulf war?

That's a great question, now going to have to research that one. I would bet the air pollution alone with all those oil wells burning made an impact environmentally, MORE, than anyone has said, who knows.

This Obama comparison to 911 was a blunder in mixing 'apples n oranges' He, in my opinion, would have been better off making a comparison to man made disasters. No one would have said anything, I don't think.

How about he comparing the world's collective, and on-going, contribution to TRASH. Ocean polluting, land polluting, aquifers breached with toxic chemicals flowing into rivers and streams, and plastics yada yada. Would one therefore conclude that trash worldwide,is possibly a larger issue? Just sayin........

It is a large issue. Even the Mississippi River is polluted with human garbage. But how many on the right cared about the environment until now? How often have you (collectively "you") made crude jokes about tree huggers and just laughed off the facts that have been known to other more concerned people for decades?
 
worst terrorist act vs worst environmental disaster

Exactly. The long-range comparison can be summarized:

911 attacks:

Immediate response to save lives, enormous cleanup of the debris, then improve the vicinity of Ground Zero and set plan in motion to rebuild WTC.

Ongoing response results in counterterrorism becoming a top priority.

Gulf oil disaster:

Immediate response to save lives, enormous effort to stop the gush and simultaneously try to minimize the effects on land and wildlife.

Ongoing reponse will result in environmental safety and protection becoming a top priority.

Immediate response is to save lives? Tell me just whose lives were being saved? If you want to compare 911 to an environmental disaster the Union Carbide leak in Bhopal, India would be a better comparison. The gas leak killed at least 4.000 local residents instantly and caused health problems such as oedema for at least 50.000 to perhaps 500.000 people. These health problems killed around 15.000 more victims in the years that followed. Approximately 100.000 people still suffer from chronic disease consequential to gas exposure, today. Research conducted by the BBC in 2004 pointed out that this pollution still causes people to fall ill, and ten more die every year.

Or how about the Russian nuclear power plant explosion in Chernobyl, the Italian dioxin crisis, the 1952 London smog disaster, the Love Canal chemical waste dump, the Baia Mare cyanide spill, the European BSE crisis, the Spanish waste water spill, or the Three Mile Island near nuclear disaster.

This oil leak will be stopped and the environment will recover. And I find it highly unlikely that any human deaths will result from the oil leak in the future.


Read more: Environmental disasters

Eleven men lost their lives from the oil rig explosion, and at the moment it wasn't known how many more. Don't say such stupid things. Their lives were just as important to their loved ones as the 3,000 who died in the attacks of 911. But then nobody (NOBODY!!!!!!) was referring to loss of life, you idiot.
 
No one is COMPARING the two events.

They are simply BOTH examples of EVENTS that have profoundly effected US attitudes.

Lemme see if'n ah kin put this here in lingo you maht comprende:

1. An Armadillo is an animal

2. A Longhorn is an animal

3. Armadillos and Longhorns are both animals

Did I say they were the SAME animal??? Same SIZE? Same Color?

No, I did not COMPARE them.

No one is comparing the two events? Did you not read the headline?

Wise up!

That's the problem with dumb shits: They read a headline and assume it tells the whole story, especially if said headline is arranged so that it criticizes Obama.

It's dumbshits like you that obviously can't follow a thread. He stated that no one was making comparisons, yet the title and the article does just that, you stupid bitch.
 
Even though anyone other than an idiot understands the point he was making, poor choice of words agreed? He should have compared it to Katrina, A MUCH better , less sensitive comparison.

No, it isn't. Although New Orleans and surrounding Gulf Coast areas that were hard hit by Katrina continue with their rebuilding, the storm itself was over in less than 24 hours. There are still thousands of gallons of oil gushing up from a mile beneath the surface of the Gulf, with no containment yet in sight. This has the potential of completely rearranging the entire ecological landscape of the entire Gulf Coast region, with the wetlands possible never surviving. And wetlands provide at least some protection from flooding which results from damaging hurricanes.

There may just be something good that comes out of this disaster, and that would be the whole issue of building ANYTHING on wetlands that disrupts the natural counter-effect to natural disasters could be dramatically changed. Like a complete ban on building and especially diverting and filling the canals to accommodate development.

The 911 terrorist attack didn't even last that long.

You're just too fucking dumb to communicate with any further. :eusa_hand:
 
yea b/c this spill isn't the biggest environmental disaster or anything :cuckoo:

Hey stupid, when he said "how we look at it" I took it to mean how we look at the entire oil drilling process and there should be no major changes in that respect. If you understood how many offshore wells have been drilled compared to the number of blowouts like the one in the Gulf, then you would know that the risk are not really all that great. What needs to be looked at is the oil companies as well as the governments response time and effectiveness. They should have immediately ignited the oil and had booms readily available.

Riiight. Ignite the oil which would burn up the booms and probably the people putting them in place. Good one.

You obviously have no experience with oil rig blowouts. It would be in your best interest not to comment on things you know nothing about you stupid fuck!
 

Two of the planets greatest BAFOONS Obama and Biden. Biden, in my opinion, is another horrendous human tragedy, how do these people get where they are?
They get there because WE collectively are a worse human tragedy. We sit back and allow these manipulators rule our lives and do little or nothing to change it.

Let's make Mr. Obama's "CHANGE" rhetoric come true, let's toss them all out when their terms are complete, if they don't destroy the country before, that is. We need a 'Bafoon Clause' in the election laws, so we can get rid of these clowns. That being said, there may be hundreds of openings in government, both local, state and federal.

Any takers in USMB want to run for office?

So what's your whine about Biden? He only happens to have more knowledge about foreign policy than the entire Senate put together, has rarely (if ever) "played politics," preferring instead to call a spade a spade. (I await the usual "plagiarism" bullshit which happened in college over 40 years ago. Anything else?)
 
No, it isn't. Although New Orleans and surrounding Gulf Coast areas that were hard hit by Katrina continue with their rebuilding, the storm itself was over in less than 24 hours. There are still thousands of gallons of oil gushing up from a mile beneath the surface of the Gulf, with no containment yet in sight. This has the potential of completely rearranging the entire ecological landscape of the entire Gulf Coast region, with the wetlands possible never surviving. And wetlands provide at least some protection from flooding which results from damaging hurricanes.

There may just be something good that comes out of this disaster, and that would be the whole issue of building ANYTHING on wetlands that disrupts the natural counter-effect to natural disasters could be dramatically changed. Like a complete ban on building and especially diverting and filling the canals to accommodate development.

The 911 terrorist attack didn't even last that long.

You're just too fucking dumb to communicate with any further. :eusa_hand:

If I'm dumb then you are a fucking retard. Comparing a terrorist attack that killed almost 3000 Americans to an oil rig disaster that killed 11.
 
Well, I guess this thread is done..................:clap2: :lol: I feel I am in a three stooges food fight with the failed plumbing and the sounds of the "bings, Bongs, BadaBings ringing in my ears.
 
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Two of the planets greatest BAFOONS Obama and Biden. Biden, in my opinion, is another horrendous human tragedy, how do these people get where they are?
They get there because WE collectively are a worse human tragedy. We sit back and allow these manipulators rule our lives and do little or nothing to change it.

Let's make Mr. Obama's "CHANGE" rhetoric come true, let's toss them all out when their terms are complete, if they don't destroy the country before, that is. We need a 'Bafoon Clause' in the election laws, so we can get rid of these clowns. That being said, there may be hundreds of openings in government, both local, state and federal.

Any takers in USMB want to run for office?

I'd also advise you to learn to spell an insulting word before you post it. You only look like a bafoon[sic].
 
Get ready for Obama's energy version of the Patriot Act.

But of course, and necessarily so. After all, the United States is infamous for its proactive responses to disasters before anything meaningful takes place to prevent such disasters in the first place. When will we ever learn?

Never, as long as we continue to vote while we're in a complete stupor, wondering who is going to win, Dancing of the Stars, Lost, and other mundane nonsense, it seems many in this country are more interested in this BS than who is going to ruin their lives in their next term as our 'leaders'.

I watched both of those shows, but I'm abundantly informed on the issues too. So what do you think McTwitter would have done in this position if he had been elected?
 
He's going to turn it into a bill that will kill the energy industry.
Excellent point. Obama proposes revising the tax code in a way that will drive most independent oil and gas producers out of business. Independents drill for and produce 80% of the oil and natural gas in this country. They are mostly comprised of very small family owned companies whose only income is from the oil or gas that is pumped out of the ground.

We should reduce our imports, not reduce our domestic production.

Sorry bout that,

1. So is oil our new enemy?


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Oil has been our enemy since the Carter administration. It was he who coined the phrases "windfall profits" and "obscene profits". Carter had the opportunity to turn this nation around by calling on U.S. energy producers to lead us to independence from foreign soources of hydrocarbons. Instead, he labeled our countrymen as bandits and proceded to confiscate personal property in the guise of the Windfall Profits Tax.

Excellent post. This is the same mis-guided and frightening logic that Obama uses towards businesses in the USA. He believe capitalists are greedy and evil, the cause of all of America's ills. It's this deranged logic that leads Obama to push and push for spreading the wealth and government control over any and all industries and sectors in America. Obama fails to realize that over 80% of Americans are employed by small businesses, who owned by by hard working Americans barely making a profit. yet Obama pushes and pushes for more taxes, more regulation, more government. Obama is a Socialist without a doubt; this disaster will be used by Obama to force more government regulations and control over the oil industry.

Small businesses have been provided many tax benefits, not increases, since the start of the recession in order to jump start their hiring. Get fucking educated before derailing a thread just so you can rail on Obama.
 
But of course, and necessarily so. After all, the United States is infamous for its proactive responses to disasters before anything meaningful takes place to prevent such disasters in the first place. When will we ever learn?

Never, as long as we continue to vote while we're in a complete stupor, wondering who is going to win, Dancing of the Stars, Lost, and other mundane nonsense, it seems many in this country are more interested in this BS than who is going to ruin their lives in their next term as our 'leaders'.

I watched both of those shows, but I'm abundantly informed on the issues too. So what do you think McTwitter would have done in this position if he had been elected?

An interesting question. I believe the most important difference is McCain would have been a LOT more sympathetic about the situation than Obama has been. Like him or not , no one can deny that McCain cares about people.

I also believe he wold have acted faster in bringing in some of the private ideas to clean up this mess, instead of watching the oil leak for 2 months while the problem was "studied."
 

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