Obama Bows to Saudi Prince and Japan's Emporer, Compare/contrast

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  1. PLYMCO_PILGRIM
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    Just thought I'd try and start another fun comparison thread.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY]YouTube - Obama Bows to Saudi King[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0mZfpOfQYc]YouTube - Barack Obama bows to Japan's Emperor Akihito[/ame]


    So lets get to the comparison, contrast, and opinions.

    I think he was just trying to show respect to both leaders as it is custom in both countries to bow to the royalty and emporer.

    That being said something about an american president Bowing to the Saudi bothers me A LOT more than him bowing to the Japanese. I think its because the japanese are our ally and act like a good friend in international matters, their actions show their alliance with us. The saudis on the other hand dont seem as helpful in anything and their country spawned the 9/11 hijackers.

    In the end I say both bows were appropriate but am still a little bothered by the saudi one.

    What say you guys and gals?
     
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    I think for the American President to bow to any other world leader is just plain ignorant. Our country should bow to NOBODY.
     
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    Just curious as to why you think we should never bow to another leader even if it is their custom. Do you think it projects weakness, or is inapropriate as its the leader of our nation, or some other thing?
     
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    A bow is a symbol of submission. So it is one thing for Pres Bush to bow to the symbol of spirituality but another for him to bow down to foreign monarchs. It projects weakness. Of course Pres Obama projects weakness by his words and actions as well, regardless of whether he bows to anybody.
    I am waiting for the video of him bowing to the head of SEIU.
     
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    I'm not talking about bush holding hands or bowing bones im talking about obama's bows to world leaders and peoples opinions of his bowing.

    What's your opinion girl?



    Thanks for your opinion rabbi.
     
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    I believe when the President of the United States bows to another foreign head of state it shows weakness and the willingness to be submissive to that foreign government. I feel the only exception to this would be the President of the United States bowing to the Pope. That act to me would signify that the US is submissive to God and I find that acceptable. The rest of the bowing, be it customary or whatever to me is offensive.
     
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    Then you do not understand customs and cannot ethically get angry for anyone not following ours. you do realize that in France it's still customary to kiss each other, right? So should the French who come here completely ignore our greeting customs and go around kissing everyone they meet?
     
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    A bow in most other cultures is a sign of respect, and in those cultures respect is also a sign of superiority in many ways. The ability to bow to another leader shows Obama is secure in the US backing him should they double cross us. This is what the president is actually suppose to do, put our best face forward. All the bullshit that Obama is doing here with policy is not what we pay him to do, going to other countries and making sure they know we are still number one is, and by observing their customs demonstrates just that.
     

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