Obama Blocks The Biggest Shovel-Ready Project Ever

[tinydancer]

The faster we can get the pipeline built, the faster we can get American money into foreign hands.

It should take all of two years or less to build. It's only a big pipe. Not "rocket science" (except to Republicans).

Then we will be left with 50 to 100 full time new jobs. It's called "maintenance". And this is how Republicans plan on rebuilding America. 50 jobs at a time. Talk about thinking "small".

Please tell your therapist in your next session to up the voltage.

 

[rdean]

You guys made me go look up the plans. I'm going to put out the facts but I'm not going to add any links because none of you did. Try to prove me wrong. Right wingers are always insisting I'm wrong, but can't say how.

I was making the comparison to the oil pipeline in Alaska which took two years to build. Just two years. And that's it. And that was 40 years ago. Liberal scientists have improved things since then.

The Alaska pipeline is 800 miles long with a diameter of 48". Much of it was built in weather that was 60 below zero and it still only took two years.

Now the Keystone is 2,000 miles. But it's only 36". Much smaller. Plus the weather is not so bad.

Now get this. For the Keystone pipeline, the plan is to also use EXISTING Natural Gas pipelines. Where ever they used existing pipelines, they don't need to build more.

The Alaska pipeline has 6 pump stations currently operational with 10 to 25 employees at each station. Number of stations at max throughput. A measly 11.

When finished, the Keystone pipeline will provide America with 5% of oil consumption.

And this is the project that's going to make millions of jobs? Republicans already made many more using Obama's "failed" stimulus money.

OK, now prove me wrong.

 

[PrometheusBound]

If the pioneers had been stifled by today's Greenie scare stories, America would still be a worthless jungle occupied by savages.

 

[tinydancer]

You guys made me go look up the plans. I'm going to put out the facts but I'm not going to add any links because none of you did. Try to prove me wrong. Right wingers are always insisting I'm wrong, but can't say how.

I was making the comparison to the oil pipeline in Alaska which took two years to build. Just two years. And that's it. And that was 40 years ago. Liberal scientists have improved things since then.

The Alaska pipeline is 800 miles long with a diameter of 48". Much of it was built in weather that was 60 below zero and it still only took two years.

Now the Keystone is 2,000 miles. But it's only 36". Much smaller. Plus the weather is not so bad.

Now get this. For the Keystone pipeline, the plan is to also use EXISTING Natural Gas pipelines. Where ever they used existing pipelines, they don't need to build more.

The Alaska pipeline has 6 pump stations currently operational with 10 to 25 employees at each station. Number of stations at max throughput. A measly 11.

When finished, the Keystone pipeline will provide America with 5% of oil consumption.

And this is the project that's going to make millions of jobs? Republicans already made many more using Obama's "failed" stimulus money.

OK, now prove me wrong.

You don't have a clue about economy. Crap I was only in rock and roll but I fucking get it.

When one builds the expansion to the pipeline, more jobs are created by the very virtue of the other individuals who have to service the workers.

It's simple. Workers on a major project roll in. Every one of them needs a coffee/KFC bucket/toilet paper/pizza.

And every time you post I will post back letting you know we are your number one supplier already.

For heaven's sake RDean please stop lying. This is getting tedious.

And the Keystone extension isn't going to cost any American taxpayer a dime.

It's a complete win win.

 

[rdean]

You guys made me go look up the plans. I'm going to put out the facts but I'm not going to add any links because none of you did. Try to prove me wrong. Right wingers are always insisting I'm wrong, but can't say how.

I was making the comparison to the oil pipeline in Alaska which took two years to build. Just two years. And that's it. And that was 40 years ago. Liberal scientists have improved things since then.

The Alaska pipeline is 800 miles long with a diameter of 48". Much of it was built in weather that was 60 below zero and it still only took two years.

Now the Keystone is 2,000 miles. But it's only 36". Much smaller. Plus the weather is not so bad.

Now get this. For the Keystone pipeline, the plan is to also use EXISTING Natural Gas pipelines. Where ever they used existing pipelines, they don't need to build more.

The Alaska pipeline has 6 pump stations currently operational with 10 to 25 employees at each station. Number of stations at max throughput. A measly 11.

When finished, the Keystone pipeline will provide America with 5% of oil consumption.

And this is the project that's going to make millions of jobs? Republicans already made many more using Obama's "failed" stimulus money.

OK, now prove me wrong.

You don't have a clue about economy. Crap I was only in rock and roll but I fucking get it.

When one builds the expansion to the pipeline, more jobs are created by the very virtue of the other individuals who have to service the workers.

It's simple. Workers on a major project roll in. Every one of them needs a coffee/KFC bucket/toilet paper/pizza.

And every time you post I will post back letting you know we are your number one supplier already.

For heaven's sake RDean please stop lying. This is getting tedious.

And the Keystone extension isn't going to cost any American taxpayer a dime.

It's a complete win win.

Nothing is "free" and coffee for a few hundred people won't do much for the economy. Funny, when I talk about building America's infrastructure like roads, bridges, broadband and railroads, Republicans on this very board say they are only "temporary" jobs. Refusing to even consider the millions of jobs created from those "infrastructure" boon doggles. Hilarious.

 

[daveman]

Shovel ready? Has every community along the proposed path, every county, every state approved the project?

Were all the shovel-ready projects Obama used to sell us the stimulus completely approved?

 

[rdean]

Shovel ready? Has every community along the proposed path, every county, every state approved the project?

Were all the shovel-ready projects Obama used to sell us the stimulus completely approved?

The ones Republicans took credit for apparently were.

Google

Oops.

 

[paulitician]

It's not about Jobs. It's about votes. Helping more Americans get back to work is not his number one priority. It never has been.

 

[daveman]

The faster we can get the pipeline built, the faster we can get American money into foreign hands.

It should take all of two years or less to build. It's only a big pipe. Not "rocket science" (except to Republicans).

Then we will be left with 50 to 100 full time new jobs. It's called "maintenance". And this is how Republicans plan on rebuilding America. 50 jobs at a time. Talk about thinking "small".

You really think it only takes a hundred people to operate a pipeline?

You don't think at all.

 

[daveman]

Shovel ready? Has every community along the proposed path, every county, every state approved the project?

Were all the shovel-ready projects Obama used to sell us the stimulus completely approved?

The ones Republicans took credit for apparently were.

Google

Oops.

Obama Jokes at Jobs Council: 'Shovel-Ready Was Not as Shovel-Ready as We Expected' - Politics - Fox Nation

President Obama's Council on Jobs and Competitiveness met today in Durham, NC at Cree Inc., a company that manufactures energy-efficient LED lighting. One of the Council's recommendations to President Obama was to streamline the federal permit process for construction and infrastructure projects. It was explained to Obama that the permitting process can delay projects for "months to years ... and in many cases even cause projects to be abandoned ... I'm sure that when you implemented the Recovery Act your staff briefed you on many of these challenges." At this point, Obama smiled and interjected, "Shovel-ready was not as ... uh .. shovel-ready as we expected." The Council, led by GE's Jeffrey Immelt, erupted in laughter.

The Obama administration promised the Recovery Act ("the stimulus") would prevent the jobless rate from going over 8%. It now stands at 9.1%.​

Obama played you. He counted on your stupidity, and you didn't let him down.

But don't you dare criticize The Lightbringer. You'll burst into flame.

 

[Conservative]

The faster we can get the pipeline built, the faster we can get American money into foreign hands.

It should take all of two years or less to build. It's only a big pipe. Not "rocket science" (except to Republicans).

Then we will be left with 50 to 100 full time new jobs. It's called "maintenance". And this is how Republicans plan on rebuilding America. 50 jobs at a time. Talk about thinking "small".

You really think it only takes a hundred people to operate a pipeline?

You don't think at all.

the new sections of the Keystone pipeline would be about 900 miles long. Having only 50 full time 'maintenance' jobs would be the equivalent of 1 man every 18 miles.
That's insane.

 

[daveman]

The faster we can get the pipeline built, the faster we can get American money into foreign hands.

It should take all of two years or less to build. It's only a big pipe. Not "rocket science" (except to Republicans).

Then we will be left with 50 to 100 full time new jobs. It's called "maintenance". And this is how Republicans plan on rebuilding America. 50 jobs at a time. Talk about thinking "small".

You really think it only takes a hundred people to operate a pipeline?

You don't think at all.

the new sections of the Keystone pipeline would be about 900 miles long. Having only 50 full time 'maintenance' jobs would be the equivalent of 1 man every 18 miles.
That's insane.

Your facts and logic kung fu is greater than derp's angry internet retard kung fu!

 

[rightwinger]

Biggest ever?

It's only 5000 jobs

 

[Clementine]

It wasn't quite 3 years ago that Obama approved another Canada to U.S. pipeline - the Alberta Clipper. The State Department crowed about the jobs it would create. Hillary Clinton was on board, praising its construction.

This all makes no sense. The guy's an idiot.

Didn't we also loan money to Brazil to drill for oil? I'm thinking Soros was involved. I recall Obama saying something about how we'll be their best customers? And we praised Mexico for drilling off the coast after the liberals had a fit when we wanted to. Yea, let everyone else drill and we'll just keep paying high prices and forever depend on them.

Speaking of shovels, I find it handy to have one whenever Obama gives a speech. Shit sure piles up fast.

 

[Conservative]

You really think it only takes a hundred people to operate a pipeline?

You don't think at all.

the new sections of the Keystone pipeline would be about 900 miles long. Having only 50 full time 'maintenance' jobs would be the equivalent of 1 man every 18 miles.
That's insane.

Your facts and logic kung fu is greater than derp's angry internet retard kung fu!

This is MY kung-fu... and it is strong.

 

[sitarro]

When the fossil-fuel folks are in THIS much a hurry.....ya' gotta figure there's.....

....a HU$TLE....

....in-the-works.

​

I'm curious idiot, what does that silly piece of shit in your avatar run on? I just can't wait to see electric powered Harleys...... I guess they will have to rig a speaker and amp to give it the signature sound while it puts silently on electricity supplied from fossil fuels.

 

[edthecynic]

You guys made me go look up the plans. I'm going to put out the facts but I'm not going to add any links because none of you did. Try to prove me wrong. Right wingers are always insisting I'm wrong, but can't say how.

I was making the comparison to the oil pipeline in Alaska which took two years to build. Just two years. And that's it. And that was 40 years ago. Liberal scientists have improved things since then.

The Alaska pipeline is 800 miles long with a diameter of 48". Much of it was built in weather that was 60 below zero and it still only took two years.

Now the Keystone is 2,000 miles. But it's only 36". Much smaller. Plus the weather is not so bad.

Now get this. For the Keystone pipeline, the plan is to also use EXISTING Natural Gas pipelines. Where ever they used existing pipelines, they don't need to build more.

The Alaska pipeline has 6 pump stations currently operational with 10 to 25 employees at each station. Number of stations at max throughput. A measly 11.

When finished, the Keystone pipeline will provide America with 5% of oil consumption.

And this is the project that's going to make millions of jobs? Republicans already made many more using Obama's "failed" stimulus money.

OK, now prove me wrong.

You don't have a clue about economy. Crap I was only in rock and roll but I fucking get it.

When one builds the expansion to the pipeline, more jobs are created by the very virtue of the other individuals who have to service the workers.

It's simple. Workers on a major project roll in. Every one of them needs a coffee/KFC bucket/toilet paper/pizza.

And every time you post I will post back letting you know we are your number one supplier already.

For heaven's sake RDean please stop lying. This is getting tedious.

And the Keystone extension isn't going to cost any American taxpayer a dime.

It's a complete win win.

And you forgot to mention all the jobs cleaning up all the oil spills from Trans Canada contracting with Welspun for shit steel for the project!

Worries over defective steel force TransCanada to check oil pipeline

The government ordered the inspections after problems with substandard steel surfaced in several other projects. An investigation revealed that several pipelines built during a construction boom from 2007 to 2009 contained significant amounts of defective pipe that stretched under pressure. Investigators traced the problems to defective steel produced by several mills, but mostly by Welspun Power and Steel, a manufacturer based in India.
Almost half of the steel in the 30-inch Keystone pipeline came from Welspun and was manufactured about the same time the company provided defective steel on several other pipeline projects. As a result, the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration, the agency charged with oversight of the nation's 2.1 million miles of pipeline, ordered more tests, including on Keystone.
Those recently completed tests identified 47 anomalies where the Keystone pipeline may have expanded beyond agency-stipulated limits.


Keystone oil pipeline shut down after leak
Operators temporarily shut down the new $5.2 billion Keystone oil pipeline that runs through the St. Louis area after a large leak was reported in North Dakota.
Witnesses on Saturday morning reported seeing a six-story geyser of oil gushing from a pump station in Sargent County in the southeastern part of the state.
Officials with TransCanada, the pipeline's owner, blamed a bad fitting and shut down the line until all such fittings could be examined. They expect the system to be down a few more days.
Company officials estimated about 21,000 gallons leaked. A berm around the station contained most of the spill. Some contaminated soil is being removed.

 

[Conservative]

You guys made me go look up the plans. I'm going to put out the facts but I'm not going to add any links because none of you did. Try to prove me wrong. Right wingers are always insisting I'm wrong, but can't say how.

I was making the comparison to the oil pipeline in Alaska which took two years to build. Just two years. And that's it. And that was 40 years ago. Liberal scientists have improved things since then.

The Alaska pipeline is 800 miles long with a diameter of 48". Much of it was built in weather that was 60 below zero and it still only took two years.

Now the Keystone is 2,000 miles. But it's only 36". Much smaller. Plus the weather is not so bad.

Now get this. For the Keystone pipeline, the plan is to also use EXISTING Natural Gas pipelines. Where ever they used existing pipelines, they don't need to build more.

The Alaska pipeline has 6 pump stations currently operational with 10 to 25 employees at each station. Number of stations at max throughput. A measly 11.

When finished, the Keystone pipeline will provide America with 5% of oil consumption.

And this is the project that's going to make millions of jobs? Republicans already made many more using Obama's "failed" stimulus money.

OK, now prove me wrong.

please link to a post where this was claimed.

 

[Zander]

We don't need jobs dammit!! According to the Obama, Pelosi, et.al., Unemployment benefits stimulate the economy. If only we had more unemployed people, then the economy would take off!

 

[tinydancer]

You guys made me go look up the plans. I'm going to put out the facts but I'm not going to add any links because none of you did. Try to prove me wrong. Right wingers are always insisting I'm wrong, but can't say how.

I was making the comparison to the oil pipeline in Alaska which took two years to build. Just two years. And that's it. And that was 40 years ago. Liberal scientists have improved things since then.

The Alaska pipeline is 800 miles long with a diameter of 48". Much of it was built in weather that was 60 below zero and it still only took two years.

Now the Keystone is 2,000 miles. But it's only 36". Much smaller. Plus the weather is not so bad.

Now get this. For the Keystone pipeline, the plan is to also use EXISTING Natural Gas pipelines. Where ever they used existing pipelines, they don't need to build more.

The Alaska pipeline has 6 pump stations currently operational with 10 to 25 employees at each station. Number of stations at max throughput. A measly 11.

When finished, the Keystone pipeline will provide America with 5% of oil consumption.

And this is the project that's going to make millions of jobs? Republicans already made many more using Obama's "failed" stimulus money.

OK, now prove me wrong.

You don't have a clue about economy. Crap I was only in rock and roll but I fucking get it.

When one builds the expansion to the pipeline, more jobs are created by the very virtue of the other individuals who have to service the workers.

It's simple. Workers on a major project roll in. Every one of them needs a coffee/KFC bucket/toilet paper/pizza.

And every time you post I will post back letting you know we are your number one supplier already.

For heaven's sake RDean please stop lying. This is getting tedious.

And the Keystone extension isn't going to cost any American taxpayer a dime.

It's a complete win win.

And you forgot to mention all the jobs cleaning up all the oil spills from Trans Canada contracting with Welspun for shit steel for the project!

Worries over defective steel force TransCanada to check oil pipeline

The government ordered the inspections after problems with substandard steel surfaced in several other projects. An investigation revealed that several pipelines built during a construction boom from 2007 to 2009 contained significant amounts of defective pipe that stretched under pressure. Investigators traced the problems to defective steel produced by several mills, but mostly by Welspun Power and Steel, a manufacturer based in India.
Almost half of the steel in the 30-inch Keystone pipeline came from Welspun and was manufactured about the same time the company provided defective steel on several other pipeline projects. As a result, the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration, the agency charged with oversight of the nation's 2.1 million miles of pipeline, ordered more tests, including on Keystone.
Those recently completed tests identified 47 anomalies where the Keystone pipeline may have expanded beyond agency-stipulated limits.


Keystone oil pipeline shut down after leak
Operators temporarily shut down the new $5.2 billion Keystone oil pipeline that runs through the St. Louis area after a large leak was reported in North Dakota.
Witnesses on Saturday morning reported seeing a six-story geyser of oil gushing from a pump station in Sargent County in the southeastern part of the state.
Officials with TransCanada, the pipeline's owner, blamed a bad fitting and shut down the line until all such fittings could be examined. They expect the system to be down a few more days.
Company officials estimated about 21,000 gallons leaked. A berm around the station contained most of the spill. Some contaminated soil is being removed.

You are insane and only bazooka barfing talking points.