Not such a Merry Christmas

[JGalt]

Apparently the UK is no crime-free paradise. London really looks like a third-world shithole.

https://www.police.uk/metropolitan/00BK17N/crime/+w8cZ0s/

 

[depotoo]

For the Velazquez family in New Mexico. In the midst of their divorce,Papa took his God given guns and shot Mama and their two children before blowing his own head off.

In any other first-world nation,this family would be looking forward to a better 2020. Not so in the gun crazy US.

Rio Rancho police investigate Christmas shooting as murder-suicide

Murders > WHO
UK
6.6 Ranked 83th. 18% more than United States 5.6
Ranked 88th.
Total crimes per 1000 109.96 Ranked 4th. 3 times more than United States 41.29 Ranked 22nd.
Rape victims 0.9% Ranked 6th. 2 times more than United States 0.4%
Ranked 13th.
Assault victims 2.8% Ranked 2nd. 2 times more than United States 1.2%
Ranked 9th.
Total crime victims 26.4% Ranked 3rd. 25% more than United States 21.1% Ranked 15th.
Robbery victims 1.2% Ranked 4th. Twice as much as United States 0.6%
Ranked 16th.
United Kingdom vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

 

[Dreadnaught1968]

Murders > WHO
UK
6.6 Ranked 83th. 18% more than United States 5.6
Ranked 88th.
Total crimes per 1000 109.96 Ranked 4th. 3 times more than United States 41.29 Ranked 22nd.
Rape victims 0.9% Ranked 6th. 2 times more than United States 0.4%
Ranked 13th.
Assault victims 2.8% Ranked 2nd. 2 times more than United States 1.2%
Ranked 9th.
Total crime victims 26.4% Ranked 3rd. 25% more than United States 21.1% Ranked 15th.
Robbery victims 1.2% Ranked 4th. Twice as much as United States 0.6%
Ranked 16th.
United Kingdom vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

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[Tommy Tainant]

This is pretty much the same every year. You murder more citizens with your guns and the ease of getting guns makes your suicide rate so much higher. The US is a dangerous place because you all have guns and are very angry. Its your culture.

 

[Flash]

For the Velazquez family in New Mexico. In the midst of their divorce,Papa took his God given guns and shot Mama and their two children before blowing his own head off.

In any other first-world nation,this family would be looking forward to a better 2020. Not so in the gun crazy US.

Rio Rancho police investigate Christmas shooting as murder-suicide

Beaners be Beaners. What else is new?

 

[JGalt]

This is pretty much the same every year. You murder more citizens with your guns and the ease of getting guns makes your suicide rate so much higher. The US is a dangerous place because you all have guns and are very angry. Its your culture.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Lots of suicide over here. However, lack of access to guns means that it is a lot lower than in gun crazy US. Thank God we live in a civilized country.

Where you hack people to death with knives, you mean?
Do you get a stiffy when you hear sheep go baa?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Lots of suicide over here. However, lack of access to guns means that it is a lot lower than in gun crazy US. Thank God we live in a civilized country.

Where you hack people to death with knives, you mean?
Do you get a stiffy when you hear sheep go baa?

Your knife crime stats are a lot worse than ours as well. You are bad people.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Your knife crime stats are a lot worse than ours as well. You are bad people.

Actually they are virtually identical. Deadly knife crime: How does London compare to New York?
I do research before opening my mouth. You should try it sometime. You would look less like a dim witted troll.

 

[Yarddog]

Papa took his God given guns

God given guns?? ...

He wants to ban both of those

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Your knife crime stats are a lot worse than ours as well. You are bad people.

Actually they are virtually identical. Deadly knife crime: How does London compare to New York?
I do research before opening my mouth. You should try it sometime. You would look less like a dim witted troll.

London is not the UK. Neither is New York all of the US. Thick fucker.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Trump's knife crime claim: how do the US and UK compare?

Suck on that you stupid fuck.

 

[Yarddog]

For the Velazquez family in New Mexico. In the midst of their divorce,Papa took his God given guns and shot Mama and their two children before blowing his own head off.

In any other first-world nation,this family would be looking forward to a better 2020. Not so in the gun crazy US.

Rio Rancho police investigate Christmas shooting as murder-suicide

He didnt need guns to do that, and the problem was with the man , not guns that you mythically believe god gave to him.
There are things you can never possibly understand Tommy, such as why Americans decided long ago they will not live their lives like sheep, although there are concerted efforts to make us just that. It's a given that someday we will all die, no matter how many things you decide to ban to keep yourself safe. Here in the US we at least choose to not give up the option to defend ourselves and our families. Though its true that things go wrong and not as intended with guns, that is also true with everything else in life. You really need to ban humans Tommy, but in the end it is better to die being able to defend yourself then die waiting for the police to show up. If you disagree with that, you have the option to not apply for American citizenship.

Why Did the Harts Deliberately Drive Their Family Over a Cliff?

 

[skookerasbil]

For the Velazquez family in New Mexico. In the midst of their divorce,Papa took his God given guns and shot Mama and their two children before blowing his own head off.

In any other first-world nation,this family would be looking forward to a better 2020. Not so in the gun crazy US.

Rio Rancho police investigate Christmas shooting as murder-suicide

Oh God...….not this shit again?!!

Board members who start threads like this are the same people who will eventually get around to banning nails and glass.

 

[skookerasbil]

Trump's knife crime claim: how do the US and UK compare?

Suck on that you stupid fuck.

He's a "stupid fuck"???

Can you not read a graph you dummy? The #'s are almost identical......comparison is statistically insignificant!!

So who exactly is the "stupid fuck" now?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

For the Velazquez family in New Mexico. In the midst of their divorce,Papa took his God given guns and shot Mama and their two children before blowing his own head off.

In any other first-world nation,this family would be looking forward to a better 2020. Not so in the gun crazy US.

Rio Rancho police investigate Christmas shooting as murder-suicide

He didnt need guns to do that, and the problem was with the man , not guns that you mythically believe god gave to him.
There are things you can never possibly understand Tommy, such as why Americans decided long ago they will not live their lives like sheep, although there are concerted efforts to make us just that. It's a given that someday we will all die, no matter how many things you decide to ban to keep yourself safe. Here in the US we at least choose to not give up the option to defend ourselves and our families. Though its true that things go wrong and not as intended with guns, that is also true with everything else in life. You really need to ban humans Tommy, but in the end it is better to die being able to defend yourself then die waiting for the police to show up. If you disagree with that, you have the option to not apply for American citizenship.

Why Did the Harts Deliberately Drive Their Family Over a Cliff?

If he hadnt got a gun to hand he may have cooled off and these people would still be alive. That would explain the vast gulf in fatalities between the US and the western world.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

London is not the UK. Neither is New York all of the US. Thick fucker.

London and New York are representative of crime in the US and UK respectively, you fat stupid sheep's sex worker.
Find me a better overview and I will accept it's reports.
The graph you used is horse shit and cannot be verified or even properly traced to a source. So fuck you.

 

[2aguy]

Good thing no one in the UK has ever committed suicide.

Lots of suicide over here. However, lack of access to guns means that it is a lot lower than in gun crazy US. Thank God we live in a civilized country.

Moron.....access to guns doesn't effect the suicide rate which is why Japan, China and South Korea all have higher suicide rates than the U.S.....you dumb ass....

Fact Check, Gun Control and Suicide



There is no relation between suicide rate and gun ownership rates around the world. According to the 2016 World Health Statistics report, (2) suicide rates in the four countries cited as having restrictive gun control laws have suicide rates that are comparable to that in the U. S.: Australia, 11.6, Canada, 11.4, France, 15.8, UK, 7.0, and USA 13.7 suicides/100,000. By comparison, Japan has among the highest suicide rates in the world, 23.1/100,000, but gun ownership is extremely rare, 0.6 guns/100 people.

Suicide is a mental health issue. If guns are not available other means are used. Poisoning, in fact, is the most common method of suicide for U. S. females according to the Washington Post (34 % of suicides), and suffocation the second most common method for males (27%).

Secondly, gun ownership rates in France and Canada are not low, as is implied in the Post article. The rate of gun ownership in the U. S. is indeed high at 88.8 guns/100 residents, but gun ownership rates are also among the world’s highest in the other countries cited. Gun ownership rates in these countries are are as follows: Australia, 15, Canada, 30.8, France, 31.2, and UK 6.2 per 100 residents. (3,4) Gun ownership rates in Saudia Arabia are comparable to that in Canada and France, with 37.8 guns per 100 Saudi residents, yet the lowest suicide rate in the world is in Saudia Arabia (0.3 suicides per 100,000).

Third, recent statistics in the state of Florida show that nearly one third of the guns used in suicides are obtained illegally, putting these firearm deaths beyond control through gun laws.(5)

Fourth, the primary factors affecting suicide rates are personal stresses, cultural, economic, religious factors and demographics. According to the WHO statistics, the highest rates of suicide in the world are in the Republic of Korea, with 36.8 suicides per 100,000, but India, Japan, Russia, and Hungary all have rates above 20 per 100,000; roughly twice as high as the U.S. and the four countries that are the basis for the Post’s calculation that gun control would reduce U.S. suicide rates by 20 to 38 percent. Lebanon, Oman, and Iraq all have suicide rates below 1.1 per 100,000 people--less than 1/10 the suicide rate in the U. S., and Afghanistan, Algeria, Jamaica, Haiti, and Egypt have low suicide rates that are below 4 per 100,000 in contrast to 13.7 suicides/100,000 in the U. S.

 

[2aguy]

For the Velazquez family in New Mexico. In the midst of their divorce,Papa took his God given guns and shot Mama and their two children before blowing his own head off.

In any other first-world nation,this family would be looking forward to a better 2020. Not so in the gun crazy US.

Rio Rancho police investigate Christmas shooting as murder-suicide

He didnt need guns to do that, and the problem was with the man , not guns that you mythically believe god gave to him.
There are things you can never possibly understand Tommy, such as why Americans decided long ago they will not live their lives like sheep, although there are concerted efforts to make us just that. It's a given that someday we will all die, no matter how many things you decide to ban to keep yourself safe. Here in the US we at least choose to not give up the option to defend ourselves and our families. Though its true that things go wrong and not as intended with guns, that is also true with everything else in life. You really need to ban humans Tommy, but in the end it is better to die being able to defend yourself then die waiting for the police to show up. If you disagree with that, you have the option to not apply for American citizenship.

Why Did the Harts Deliberately Drive Their Family Over a Cliff?

If he hadnt got a gun to hand he may have cooled off and these people would still be alive. That would explain the vast gulf in fatalities between the US and the western world.

Moron.....again, Japan has a higher suicide rate than the U.S.....you dumb theory can't explain that, as your other theories can't explain other facts around the gun issue....you doofus.

 

[2aguy]

Christmas Eve murder victim was shot in front of his family as they returned from evening out, police reveal

41 people were killed by guns in the US on xmas day. Pretty much the same every day. What is your point ?

Meanwhile, in the U.S.....Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives...from rape, robbery and murder......according to our CDC......

And as more Americans own and carry guns, our gun murder rate has gone down, not up....explain that....

Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 18.6 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

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Maine tops ‘safest states’ rankings four years after removing major gun restriction

When Maine passed a “Constitutional Carry” law allowing Maine residents to carry a concealed firearm without any special permit in 2015, opponents of the law forecast a dangerous future for the state. They said the new law would hurt public safety and put Maine kids at risk.



One state representative who opposed the bill went so far as to say it would give Mainers a reason to be afraid every time they went out in public or to work.

Another state representative suggested the law would lead to violent criminals with recent arrests and convictions legally carrying handguns.


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Now four years later, Maine has been named the safest state in the nation according to US News and World Report’s public safety rankings, which measures the fifty states based on crime data.



Ranking as the top safest state for violent crime and fourth for property crime, Maine edges out another New England state, Vermont, for the top spot. Of note, Vermont also is a “Constitutional Carry” state. New Hampshire ranks third in the national rankings, giving New England all three of the top spots in the nation.

In 2018, Maine was edged out by Vermont in the same “safest states” ranking, but declared the best state overall in the broader “Crime and Corrections” category.

In 2017, using a different methodology, Maine was ranked second among the fifty states in the “Crime and Corrections” category and also second in the categories used to rank the “safest states.”

The U.S. News and World Report “Best States” rankings are built in partnership with McKinsey & Company, a firm that works closely with state leaders around the nation.

Maine has also ranked at the top of other state rankings. WalletHub.com recently ranked Maine second in “Personal and Residential Safety” among the fifty states, and third overall.