Not a single thread on the BENEFITS of having massive healthcare companies.

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    Here is how much 17 healthcare CEOs received in compensation during fiscal year 2017, according to Equilar.

    6. Ian Read (Pfizer) — $26.17 million
    9. Michael F. Neidorff (Centene) — $25.26 million
    10. Alex Gorsky (Johnson & Johnson) — $22.84 million
    20. Joseph M. Zubretsky (Molina Healthcare) — $19.74 million
    22. Richard A. Gonzalez (AbbVie) — $19.13 million
    24. Giovanni Caforio (Bristol Myers-Squibb) — $18.69 million
    34. David M. Cordani (Cigna) — $17.55 million
    47. Timothy Wentworth (Express Scripts) — $15.90 million
    51. Miles D. White (Abbott Laboratories) — $15.62 million
    53. John F. Milligan (Gilead Sciences) — $15.44 million
    56. Bruce D. Broussard (Humana) — $14.87 million
    62. Stefano Pessina (Walgreens) — $14.67 million
    63. David A. Ricks (Eli Lilly) — $14.50 million
    66. R. Milton Johnson (HCA Healthcare) — $13.71 million
    83. George S. Barrett (Cardinal Health) — $10.99 million
    86. Steven H. Collis (AmerisourceBergen) — $9.91 million
    99. Ron A. Rittenmeyer (Tenet Healthcare) — $3.65 million

    17 of the highest-paid CEOs in healthcare

    Healthcare executives are among the highest paid in the world.

    So what do they do for all that money?

    And where does that money come from?

    Anyone?
     
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    So, if they don't make anything and they don't sell anything, why are they getting so much money?
     
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    You do know that a significant number on that list supported Ovomitcare, don't you?

    You think they did so because it made them poorer?
     
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    Why do liberals always want to take money away from others.
     
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    Better go back over your list....not make anything???
    DO Banks make anything....
     
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    They want their freebies!
     
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    Especially since most of them can't throw a football or make a basket. And, few of them can rap, sing, or act. How dare they make money.
     
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    I heard an ad on KSEV radio about how foreign countries depend on US companies
    to pay for all the research and development for new medicines. So this lowers costs
    of medical care in OTHER countries while the US foots the bill.

    Now deanrd what if we throw in the factor of reducing costs of medical
    procedures and medicines while saving more lives and resources
    by R&D on free and natural spiritual healing that removes the root causes
    of illness and disease, disorders and addictions.

    That free treatment and cure that is saving lives and cutting costs
    DOESN'T EVEN SHOW UP in the numbers you cite.

    You are only looking at the money on the books, where people
    can cite property ownership and assets by those values.

    That doesn't necessarily translate into the actual services
    it takes to prevent and treat diseases in the real world.

    So deanrd given what's really going on in the world,
    I don't think you can compare these different systems using
    just dollars and cents, or it doesn't add up.

    The REAL work to build clinics and teaching hospitals
    done by NONPROFITS such as Doctors without Borders
    or Americares AREN'T EVEN ON YOUR LIST. They have
    more influence, power, knowledge and ABILITY to serve
    and save more lives than just the corporations you list
    as having money that is tied up in stocks and DOESN'T
    necessarily translate into actual services on the ground serving people.

    If we start placing value on the people treating and curing
    diseases for FREE to SAVE LIVES, that can be the Equivalent
    of saving hundreds of thousands in expenses or death PER PERSON,
    ie MILLIONS if not BILLIONS
    WHICH NEVER SHOWS UP IN THE GNP OR LISTS OF SALARIES YOU POSTED.

    Do you understand why you cannot measure health care this way?

    We are talking about totally different scales or systems.
    Under the REAL system it takes to saves lives and build sustainable
    health care around the world, the empty dollars earned from exploiting
    poverty disease and lack of access to resources MEANS NOTHING.

    If anything, the money and labor to build sustainable health care
    will come from workers at the grassroots level, teachers students
    residents and interns who don't even show up on your scale.

    If we organize more groups to build more local clinics, teaching
    hospitals and emergency care centers in every city, country and district
    SURE
    we can better lobby the Bill Gate and George Soros of the world
    to invest in replicating those models. Any maybe turn this around
    where the wealthy investors work to build more hospital programs
    to train health care service providers, doctors and nurses to serve in public health.

    But this won't be accomplished by arguing about who earns how much money.

    It will be achieved by promoting SOLUTIONS that CUT COSTS
    so that more people invest both LABOR and money into
    building sustainable programs DIRECTLY OURSELVES.

    That's when we will attract support of investors.
    Focus on the solutions, that people want to invest in.
    Do what works, and the money will follow!
     
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    Because they're pretty much born thieves.
     
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    Mostly they lobby government for special privilege. That's why so many of them are part of the revolving door on K street.
     

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