North Korea

[buckeye45_73]

Wow that policy of engagement worked well, that they launched the rocket. I love tough talking liberals, now what? You told them not to, they did, so whats next? Another harsh don't do it statement, this time from the UN(now it's getting serious, LOL)?


Clinton Warns North Korea of UN Action if Rocket Launched | News | English

Earlier this week, Secretary Clinton said the launch has raised doubts about North Korea's claims that it wants to improve ties with its neighbors and the United States.

Is she really this stupid? Seriously?

 

[VaYank5150]

Who really gives a shit? This rocket lasted less time in the air than their previous launch.

North Korea Rocket Launch Fails - WSJ.com

 

[buckeye45_73]

Because liberals tend to say dont do it or else...so what is the or else?

and let's face it, even Palin knows the answer to the question posed by Clinton, and Clinton doesnt know it?

 

[Conservative]

Next is a sternly worded letter.

 

[VaYank5150]

Because liberals tend to say dont do it or else...so what is the or else?

and let's face it, even Palin knows the answer to the question posed by Clinton, and Clinton doesnt know it?

Clinton did her job. She knows there is no "or else", as does NK, as we cant afford an "or else". Hence, NK launched, and as predicted, it failed. So again, who gives a shit?

 

[buckeye45_73]

Because liberals tend to say dont do it or else...so what is the or else?

and let's face it, even Palin knows the answer to the question posed by Clinton, and Clinton doesnt know it?

Clinton did her job. She knows there is no "or else", as does NK, as we cant afford an "or else". Hence, NK launched, and as predicted, it failed. So again, who gives a shit?

So again, why state that? IF you say "or else", you need to have an "or else". They lose credibility in foreign affairs, well it's par for the course for this administration.

 

[VaYank5150]

Because liberals tend to say dont do it or else...so what is the or else?

and let's face it, even Palin knows the answer to the question posed by Clinton, and Clinton doesnt know it?

Clinton did her job. She knows there is no "or else", as does NK, as we cant afford an "or else". Hence, NK launched, and as predicted, it failed. So again, who gives a shit?

So again, why state that? IF you say "or else", you need to have an "or else". They lose credibility in foreign affairs, well it's par for the course for this administration.

I will type slower this time...most intelligent Americans knew this NK missile would fail, just as previous ones had, hence we did not need an "or else".

 

[asaratis]

The North Koreans are exceptionally good at saber-rattling. From what I saw of their rocket video, it will take them months to build another one. They will never be prepared to actually attack anyone with ICBMs...and we have enough missiles on one aircraft carrier to obliterate the entire country of North Korea.

Interesting side question: Have you ever seen a photo of South and North Korea from space at night?

korea from space at night photo - Google Search

North Korea lingers in the Dark Ages!

Hillary and Barack like to talk tough as if we would spank North Korea's ass like a wayward child should they do something "wrong". That is just to put on the guise of protecting the American citizens from the evil communists. If Barack ever visited North Korea, he would bow down and kiss their leader's ring...or his ass...all the while apologizing for those evil things Hillary has been saying about them. Hillary will not visit there for she fears being subjected again to sniper fire.

 

[VaYank5150]

World News - US cancels food aid to North Korea after missile launch, warns of more sanctions

 

[LibertyForAll]

The North Koreans are exceptionally good at saber-rattling. From what I saw of their rocket video, it will take them months to build another one. They will never be prepared to actually attack anyone with ICBMs...and we have enough missiles on one aircraft carrier to obliterate the entire country of North Korea.

Interesting side question: Have you ever seen a photo of South and North Korea from space at night?

korea from space at night photo - Google Search

North Korea lingers in the Dark Ages!

Hillary and Barack like to talk tough as if we would spank North Korea's ass like a wayward child should they do something "wrong". That is just to put on the guise of protecting the American citizens from the evil communists. If Barack ever visited North Korea, he would bow down and kiss their leader's ring...or his ass...all the while apologizing for those evil things Hillary has been saying about them. Hillary will not visit there for she fears being subjected again to sniper fire.

Interesting Photos. I wonder what the cause is? Rationing electricity? Curfew? or are they just that undeveloped?

 

[Mr Natural]

What's your plan, going to war?

 

[Conservative]

The North Koreans are exceptionally good at saber-rattling. From what I saw of their rocket video, it will take them months to build another one. They will never be prepared to actually attack anyone with ICBMs...and we have enough missiles on one aircraft carrier to obliterate the entire country of North Korea.

Interesting side question: Have you ever seen a photo of South and North Korea from space at night?

korea from space at night photo - Google Search

North Korea lingers in the Dark Ages!

Hillary and Barack like to talk tough as if we would spank North Korea's ass like a wayward child should they do something "wrong". That is just to put on the guise of protecting the American citizens from the evil communists. If Barack ever visited North Korea, he would bow down and kiss their leader's ring...or his ass...all the while apologizing for those evil things Hillary has been saying about them. Hillary will not visit there for she fears being subjected again to sniper fire.

Interesting Photos. I wonder what the cause is? Rationing electricity? Curfew? or are they just that undeveloped?

Yes.

 

[waltky]

Granny says "Dat's right - dey need to be spendin' dat money on feedin' dey's people...

NKorea says it will launch long-range rocket soon
Dec 1,`12 -- North Korea announced Saturday that it would attempt to launch a long-range rocket in mid-December, a defiant move just eight months after a failed April bid was widely condemned as a violation of a U.N. ban against developing its nuclear and missile programs.

The launch, set for Dec. 10 to 22, is likely to heighten already strained tensions with Washington and Seoul as the United States prepares for Barack Obama's second term as U.S. president and South Korea holds its own presidential election on Dec. 19. This would be North Korea's second launch attempt under leader Kim Jong Un, who took power following his father Kim Jong Il's death nearly a year ago. The announcement by North Korea's space agency followed speculation overseas about stepped-up activity at North Korea's west coast launch pad captured in satellite imagery.

A spokesman for North Korea's Korean Committee for Space Technology said scientists have "analyzed the mistakes" made in the failed April launch and improved the precision of its Unha rocket and Kwangmyongsong satellite, according to the official Korean Central News Agency. KCNA said the launch was a request of late leader Kim Jong Il, whose Dec. 17, 2011, death North Koreans are expected to mark with some fanfare. The space agency said the rocket would be mounted with a polar-orbiting Earth observation satellite, and maintained its right to develop a peaceful space program.

Washington considers North Korea's rocket launches to be veiled covers for tests of technology for long-range missiles designed to strike the United States, and such tests are banned by the United Nations. North Korea has capable short- and medium-range missiles, but long-range launches in 1998, 2006, 2009 and in April of this year ended in failure. North Korea is not known to have succeeded in mounting an atomic bomb on a missile but is believed to have enough weaponized plutonium for at least half a dozen bombs, according to U.S. experts, and in 2010 revealed a uranium enrichment program that could provide a second source of material for nuclear weapons.

Six-nation negotiations on dismantling North Korea's nuclear program in exchange for aid fell apart in early 2009. In Seoul, South Korean officials have accused North Korea of trying to influence its presidential election with what they consider provocations meant to put pressure on voters and on the United States as the North seeks concessions. Conservative Park Geun-hye, the daughter of late President Park Chung-hee, is facing liberal Moon Jae-in in the South Korean presidential vote. Polls show the candidates in a close race.

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North Korea to launch long-range rocket in December
1 December 2012 - April's launch attempt brought international condemnation

North Korea is to launch a long-range rocket between 10 and 22 December, its official news agency says. The KCNA agency said the aim was to launch a satellite. Previous - unsuccessful - launches have been criticised as breaches of a UN ban on North Korean ballistic missile tests. The announcement is likely to increase tensions with North Korea's neighbours, with South Korea expressing concern over Pyongyang's announcement. South Korean officials called the move a "grave provocation" and a "challenge to the international community".

The atmosphere in South Korea is especially tense as the country prepares for a presidential election scheduled for 19 December, the BBC's Lucy Williamson reports from Seoul. North Korea's most recent rocket launch, in April, was a failure. The US, Japan and South Korea said the rocket flew only for a short time before breaking up and crashing into waters off the Korean peninsula. Earlier this week South Korea halted a satellite launch minutes before take-off after problems were found during the final checks.

'Peaceful purposes'

North Korean scientists and technicians had now "analysed the mistakes" of the April launch, the Korean Committee for Space Technology said, via KCNA. The rocket will be of the same Unha-3 variety as was used in the April test. It will be launched "southward" from the Sohae base near the Chinese border, KCNA said, implying it would be directed over the East China Sea. The flight path had been chosen to avoid debris falling on neighbouring countries, the agency said. "Unha" is Korean for "galaxy", and is the name given by North Korea to the space launcher version of its Taepodong-2 missile, which has an estimated range of 2,200km. The missile has not yet been successfully tested.

There had been recent speculation that North Korea would attempt another launch soon, with a UN Security Council committee on Thursday warning the country against such a move. Saturday's statement insisted the forthcoming launch would be for "peaceful purposes". The test will be the second to take place under the leadership of Kim Jong-un, who took over leadership of the country after the death of his father Kim Jong-il almost a year ago.

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[waltky]

Granny says, "Dat's right - shoot it down...

Japan threatens to shoot down North Korean rocket
2 Dec.`12 - Japan is threatening to shoot down a North Korean rocket that Pyongyang says it could launch next week.

Kim Jong-un's regime insists the rocket, which it says will fly south over the Philippines and Australia and into orbit, is carrying a communications satellite. But the United States, South Korea and Japan all say that the launch is really a ballistic missile test, with North Korea trying to master the technology to fire long-range missiles capable of one day carrying a nuclear warhead. The last North Korean rocket launch ended in ignominy in April, when the rocket broke up and splashed into the Yellow Sea just a minute or so after take-off. After that debacle, there were rumours throughout Pyongyang that a couple of rocket scientists had disappeared.

Japan's prime minister Yoshihiko Noda is threatening to shoot down the next rocket if it manages to stay airborne and threaten Japanese territory. "The defence minister has today issued orders to prepare for the interception and defence against ballistic missiles," he said. "If they do indeed go ahead with the launch, then it is indeed very regrettable. "Not only our country, but the entire international community must take strong measures to deal with this." The launch window runs for 12 days from next Monday - a period in which South Korean voters will be going to the polls to elect a new president.

Foreign Affairs Minister Bob Carr says North Korea's plans are provocative. Senator Carr has condemned North Korea's plan and says that message will be passed on to North Korea's ambassador. "That won't surprise the government. They've heard it from us before when they've undertaken provocative action in respect of a commitment to nuclear tests and ballistic missile testing," he said. "It is important that we register this because its a mark of our solidarity with our friends South Korea and Japan."

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[RoadVirus]

Clinton Warns North Korea of UN Action if Rocket Launched | News | English

Earlier this week, Secretary Clinton said the launch has raised doubts about North Korea's claims that it wants to improve ties with its neighbors and the United States.

Is she really this stupid? Seriously?

Hillary warned North Korea...I bet Kim Jong Nutball Jr. is just shaking in his knickers.

 

[waltky]

Granny says lil' Kim just as hard-headed as his sorry-assed daddy...

Russia, China warn North Korea about potential rocket launch
December 3, 2012 - The two Asian superpowers are trying to convince their small Communist neighbor that launching another rocket is not in its best interest.

Russia and China urged North Korea on Monday not to go ahead with a plan for its second rocket launch of 2012, with Moscow saying any such move would violate restrictions imposed by the U.N. Security Council. North Korea's state news agency on Saturday announced the decision to launch another space satellite and reportedly told neighbors it would take a similar path to that planned for a failed rocket launch in April. "We urgently appeal to the government (of North Korea) to reconsider the decision to launch a rocket," the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

North Korea on Monday notified the U.N. shipping agency, the International Maritime Organization, about the launch, which was scheduled to take place between Dec. 10 and Dec. 22 at between 1600 and 2100 hours GMT. The rocket's first stage drop-off would take place off the west coast of the Korean Peninsula, while the second stage would occur off the Philippines - both stages nowhere near Japan, coordinates provided by Pyongyang showed. Echoing its criticism of the April launch, Russia said North Korea had been warned not to ignore a U.N. Security Council resolution which "unambiguously prohibits (it) from launching rockets using ballistic technology".

China was not so direct in its criticism of North Korea, but urged "all sides" not to take any action that "worsens the problem". "China believes that maintaining peace and stability on the Korean peninsula and in Northeast Asia accords with the interests of all sides and is the joint responsibility of all sides," Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei told reporters. "In the present circumstances, we hope all sides can be calm and restrained and not take any moves to worsen the problem. China will remain in touch and coordinate with all sides."

In Washington, U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland condemned the launch plan on Sunday, calling it a provocative threat to the Asia-Pacific region.

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Another N. Korean Rocket Launch Will Test U.N. Security Council’s Pledge to ‘Take Action’
December 3, 2012 - If North Korea goes ahead with its declared attempt to launch a rocket into space this month, the U.N. Security Council’s pledge eight months ago to take unspecified “action” if it does, will be put to the test.

Pyongyang announced over the weekend that it plans to launch an “earth observation satellite” sometime between Dec. 10 and 22, a period that coincides with both the first anniversary of Kim Jong-il’s death and presidential elections in South Korea. After North Korea last April tried, and failed, to launch a satellite – using a carrier rocket that Western security experts say closely mirrors its Taepodong-2 long-range ballistic missile – the United States, which held the U.N. Security Council presidency that month, led efforts to formulate a response.

Three-and-a-half days later the council issued a statement condemning the action and paving the way for an extension of the list of nuclear and ballistic missile technology banned for transfer to and from North Korea. The statement ended with the words, “The Security Council expresses its determination to take action accordingly in the event of a further DPRK launch or nuclear test.” DPRK stands for the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, the country’s official name. The statement fell short of a binding Security Council resolution, but U.S. ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice at the time defended it, noting it was “stronger and more explicit” than one following an earlier North Korean launch, in 2009.

Responding to the latest planned launch, South Korean foreign ministry spokesman Cho Tai-young said in a statement if North Korea goes ahead it will be “confronted with a strong response from the international community as clearly stated in the U.N. Security Council presidential statement in April.” “A North Korean ‘satellite’ launch would be a highly provocative act,” State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said in a statement after Pyongyang’s announcement. She said the U.S. was consulting closely with its regional allies and partners “on next steps.”

This would be the fifth launch by North Korea since 1998, when it fired a Taepodong-I long-range ballistic missile that sailed over Japan before splashing down in the Pacific Ocean. In 2006 it tested a longer-range Taepodong-2 but that also failed, after around 40 seconds. The 2009 Taepodong-2 retry failed too, although that flight lasted some 18 minutes – a distance of around 2,000 miles. Last April’s test saw the rocket fly for just 70 or so miles before disintegrating.

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[aaronleland]

This has nothing to do with liberal or conservative. Previous administrations have warned North Korea against things like missile launches before, and nothing becomes of it. It is the same saber-rattling that has been going on for decades.

 

[Nole]

im a radar dude, I track anything launched into orbit by anyone on this little green earth. Its my job. NK is full of shit, trust me. Iran is far more advanced in LEO operations, NK is clueless.

 

[waltky]

Granny says, "Dat lil' Kim is a hard-headed lil' cuss, ain't he?...

NKorea warns that nuke test may be imminent
Jan 24,`13 -- North Korea's top military body warned Thursday that the regime is poised to conduct a nuclear test in response to U.N. punishment, and made clear that its long-range rockets are designed to carry not only satellites but also warheads aimed at striking the United States.

The National Defense Commission rejected Tuesday's U.N. Security Council resolution condemning North Korea's long-range rocket launch in December as a banned missile activity and expanding sanctions against the regime. The commission reaffirmed in its declaration that the launch was a peaceful bid to send a satellite into space, but also said the country's rocket launches have a military purpose: to strike and attack the United States.

The commission pledged to keep launching satellites and rockets and to conduct a "high-level" nuclear test as part of defensive measures against the U.S. "We do not hide that a variety of satellites and long-range rockets which will be launched by the DPRK one after another and a nuclear test of higher level which will be carried out by it in the upcoming all-out action, a new phase of the anti-U.S. struggle that has lasted century after century, will target against the U.S., the sworn enemy of the Korean people," the commission said, referring to North Korea by its official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. "Settling accounts with the U.S. needs to be done with force, not with words, as it regards jungle law as the rule of its survival," the commission said.

The U.S. State Department had no immediate response to Thursday's statement. On Wednesday, after Pyongyang's foreign ministry issued its own angry response to the Security Council decision and said the North would bolster its "nuclear deterrence," U.S. envoy to North Korea Glyn Davies urged restraint. "It is important that they heed the voice of the international community," Davies said Wednesday in South Korea. He was meeting with government officials on a trip that also will take him to China and Japan to discuss how to move forward on North Korea relations. Davies said that if North Korea begins "to take concrete steps to indicate their interest in returning to diplomacy, they may find in their negotiating partners willing partners in that process."

North Korea carried out underground nuclear tests in 2006 and 2009, both times just weeks after receiving U.N. sanctions for launching long-range rockets it claimed were peaceful bids to send satellites into space. At a military parade last April, North Korea showed off what appeared to be an intercontinental ballistic missile. Experts say the North Koreans must conduct further tests of its atomic devices and make them smaller before they can be mounted as nuclear warheads onto long-range missiles.

Though it insists its efforts to launch a satellite are peaceful, North Korea also claims the right to build nuclear weapons as a defense against the United States, which stations more than 28,000 troops in South Korea. The adversaries fought in the three-year Korean War, which ended in a truce in 1953 and left the Korean Peninsula divided by the world's most heavily fortified demilitarized zone. North Korea has enough weaponized plutonium for about four to eight bombs, according to nuclear scientist Siegfried Hecker, who visited North Korea's nuclear complex in 2010. In 2009, Pyongyang also declared that it would begin enriching uranium, which would give North Korea a second way to make atomic weapons.

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[Cowman]

One would think North Korea, internationally, would embody the spirit of what it means to be a defiant conservative.

Fuck you other governments, you can't tell us what to do!