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Abortion is CLEARLY your main interest and yet you don’t care that Walker has paid for not one but TWOWith about 2 dozen issues involved in any US public office campaign, do you expect to have agreement with a candidate on EVERY one of them ? Just wondering.
Yes she must, in order to insure the safety of the person inside her. Simple as that.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well yes, it will allow our various 'Big Governments' to mandate what she can choose in regards her uterus....which, some here won't acknowledge, is where that glob of cells exists, and is dependent upon to continue existing.
A fetus is not a stand-alone entity, an independent human. Without that uterus ---in the vast vast majority of pregnancies.....that fetus can't exist.
Until birth the woman is the most important, the most dominant, element in the tri-partite arrangement of female-male-fetus.
She must not be subservient to elected legislators, to concede to those temporary bureaucrats her body her well-being, or to have autonomy over her own uterus confiscated from her.
I don't know when the fetus is worthy of being called a 'person', I'll leave that call to biologists. I only know that as far as I'm concerned, a fertilized egg is NOT a person but a one-second old baby is. Somewhere in between is a line.FALSE! A fetus has already developed into a new human life at only 11 weeks of gestation. Look at the illustrations below. Can you see any difference between the fetus at 11 weeks and a born baby ? If so, it's not much.
Humans continually go through physiological changes all through their lives - growing taller, breasts for woman, facial hair for men, menepause, enlarged prostates, changes of hair color, etc.
We don't say without these developments, they are not worthy of protection & rights.
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Soul? I have no clue about such matters.That less than halfway into its gestation, it has developed into a Human, with a body and a soul.
NO, it is NOT my main interest. My main interests are affordable housing, the current disastrous rent increases, crime, inflation, immigration, and race relations including discrimination. Abortion ranks below all these for me.Abortion is CLEARLY your main interest and yet you don’t care that Walker has paid for not one but TWO
5 minutes before birth you have a person, 9 months before birth you do not. IMHO.Including pre-born persons.
Agreed. See Post 503. might helpI don't know when the fetus is worthy of being called a 'person', I'll leave that call to biologists. I only know that as far as I'm concerned, a fertilized egg is NOT a person but a one-second old baby is. Somewhere in between is a line.
Agreed.5 minutes before birth you have a person, 9 months before birth you do not. IMHO.
collectivism is the basic premise of any free societyMaybe we would, if you told us what you're talking about.
But, how does the zygote know how to divide?This I understand and agree with this. What I don't understand is the people who claim that science can answer the question. To me, until the development of a uniquely human brain, the zygote/fetus is just a collection of DNA and other organic molecules (unique or not), not worthy of superseding the rights of the mother.
Fair enough, so how does this tie in with the topic > rights rankings of the pregnant woman vs the pre-born baby ?collectivism is the basic premise of any free society
If you demean one of us, you've taken all of us down a notch
I.E.~ if you're rights have been abused, it's easy to abuse the rest of us
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WHAT is how ?For those of you still wondering
this is how society bows to fascism , totalitarianism , or what ever other control freak term you may have
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No it really hasn't.Really. A fetus is given the right to life in many US states. I didn't say anything about full compliments.
That is a biological depiction.The illustrations in Post # 503 could answer that.
Once again it is the legal issue of when the unborn attain personhood that matters.Of course it is not a guaranteed right. Guaranteeing the right to do an abortion, is guaranteeing the right to commit murder. Would those who accept abortion, accept it for their own mothers, a few months before they were born ?
Yes and no. It's easy enough for a person to leave the state and travel to one where abortions are not illegal. There is no legal argument that can justify detaining a woman from travel while pregnant as there is in the case of people taking born children out of state which can be stopped if it is deemed the children would be in danger if they left the state.States are deciding that by enacting a specific gestation week, after which abortions may not be performed. In any law, it goes by the gravity of the act.
Example : (Florida law)
- Property valued below $300 classifies as petit theft and a 2nd degree misdemeanor.
- Property valued between $300 and $20,000 is 3rd degree grand theft.
- Property valued between $20,000 and $100,000 is 2nd degree grand theft.
- Property valued above $100,000 is 1st degree grand theft.
Cell division is not a conscious process and is controlled by DNA not the brainBut, how does the zygote know how to divide?
A brain? That is a good argument, but that zygote... Besides, democrats dont have human brains yet they have rights.
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Yet, how does the dna know? How do all those parts know what to do.Cell division is not a conscious process and is controlled by DNA not the brain
