No veils in France

[Anguille]

You need to run for Mayor of South Park.

Je m'en fous de South Park.

Je m'en bats les couilles.

Alors, tu souffres de l'impatience dans les jambes la nuit?

 

[tigerbob]

Je m'en fous de South Park.

Je m'en bats les couilles.

Alors, tu souffres de l'impatience dans les jambes la nuit?

C'est possible que vous avez raison.

 

[Valerie]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/general-global-topics/133086-france-outlaws-burkas-19.html#post2738289

 

[Anguille]

Bob, J'ai toujours raison. Toujours. Tu ne le sais pas encore?

 

[Big Fitz]

At least two women have been detained in France while wearing Islamic veils across their faces, after a law banning the garment in public came into force.

Police said they were held not because of their veils but for joining an unauthorised protest against the ban.

France is the first country in Europe to publicly ban a form of dress some Muslims regard as a religious duty.

Anyone caught breaking the law will be liable to a fine of 150 euros (£133; $217) and a citizenship course.

People forcing women to wear the veil face a much larger fine and a prison sentence of up to two years.

It was not clear whether the women detained at the protest would also be fined for their veils.

BBC News - Women in face veils detained as France enforces ban

Being required to remove a veil in an area where security / identification is an issue (like airports) is reasonable enough, but being banned from wearing it in a public park seems a bit draconian.

Damn you rational demand!!!!

I seem to recall in the middle ages / early renaissance, masks were so popular the church had to ban them from the property or refuse them confession OR communion till they took it off.

I've absolutely no problems with this.

 

[syrenn]

P.s. I feel compelled to declare that I vehemently oppose the wearing of the full burka in public. It has no place in western society, and is in no way shape or form a religious requirement stated by the Qur'an.

You are correct.

The burka is a cultural piece of clothing and is not Islamic or mandated by the Quran.

The veil has some basis in the Hadith for those who choose to wear it.

But in no way is the veil a required for Muslim women.

Unless the man of he house or demands that they wear one right?

 

[syrenn]

Burka issue
Women in France who wear a burka are counted as 1.900 according to French Domestic Ministry. To another study they only count 376 women.
It's just a political maneuver to placate the rise of right in France.
The Roma also had to experience this.

The French government claims that it is a security issue.

Yet, not one single felony related crime has ever been committed by a woman wearing a burka in France.

How do you know its a woman under that burka?

 

[ekrem]

 

[syrenn]

Except for Muslim women, in the US in most locals it is ILLEGAL to wear a mask covering your face with out a legal or medical requirement. Exception being Halloween.

A veil is not a mask.

semantics Sunni Man...semantics.

 

[ekrem]

FRANCE 24 - 1,900 women affected by France

Now 1.900 women have to be the victim so Sarkozy increases his chances to survive 1st round.
He is trying to fish in LePen's aquarium.

 

[syrenn]

Will this new law apply to Brides veils too?

You can still see the face of a bride behind "bridal" veils.

 

[Big Fitz]

Burka issue
Women in France who wear a burka are counted as 1.900 according to French Domestic Ministry. To another study they only count 376 women.
It's just a political maneuver to placate the rise of right in France.
The Roma also had to experience this.

The French government claims that it is a security issue.

Yet, not one single felony related crime has ever been committed by a woman wearing a burka in France.

How do you know its a woman under that burka?

The dynamite belt wrecks a figure, let me tell you.

 

[ekrem]

Libyan War Not a Sure Thing to Save Sarkozy
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/12/world/europe/12iht-politicus12.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Deportation of EU-citizens (Roma) from France didn't help him either in his ratings.

 

[syrenn]

The French government claims that it is a security issue.

Yet, not one single felony related crime has ever been committed by a woman wearing a burka in France.

How do you know its a woman under that burka?

The dynamite belt wrecks a figure, let me tell you.

You can see a figure under a burka?

 

[tigerbob]

Bob, J'ai toujours raison. Toujours. Tu ne le sais pas encore?

Qui peut raconter toutes les belles histoires. Les recits, les contes, les moments de gloire....

 

[Anguille]

FRANCE 24 - 1,900 women affected by France

Now 1.900 women have to be the victim so Sarkozy increases his chances to survive 1st round.
He is trying to fish in LePen's aquarium.

That is exactly what he is doing. But he is only a reflection of France's long history of zenophobia.

 

[Sunni Man]

Except for Muslim women, in the US in most locals it is ILLEGAL to wear a mask covering your face with out a legal or medical requirement. Exception being Halloween.

A veil is not a mask.

semantics Sunni Man...semantics.

According to the FBI in 2010 there were 5,600 bank robberies in the U.S.

The vast majority wore some kind of mask or disguise.

But there was no recorded instance of a bank robber using a veil.

Or disguised as a Muslim woman.

 

[ekrem]

I sincerely hope that Cameron and Merkel are watching today's events in France with interest.

Burka is non-existent in Germany for the law-giver to intervene according to Head of Interior Committee of German Parliament.
A ban in public would also violate German constitution.
Deutsche Welle - Burka–Verbot in Deutschland?

 

[syrenn]

A veil is not a mask.

semantics Sunni Man...semantics.

According to the FBI in 2010 there were 5,600 bank robberies in the U.S.

The vast majority wore some kind of mask or disguise.

But there was no recorded instance of a bank robber using a veil.

Or disguised as a Muslim woman.

So? Anything covering the face to hide or conceal the idinity is a mask. Semantics Sunni man... semantics.






mask
- 10 of 63 thesaurus results
Main Entry: mask
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: false face, cover
Synonyms: affectation, air*, appearance, aspect, beard, blind, camouflage, cloak*, concealment, cover-up, disguise, disguisement, dissembling, dissimulation, domino, facade, fig leaf, front, guise, hood, masquerade, pose, posture, pretense, pretext, put-on, screen, semblance, show*, simulation, veil*, veneer, visage, visor, window dressing

Mask Synonyms, Mask Antonyms | Thesaurus.com







mask
- 7 dictionary results
mask
   [mask, mahsk] Show IPA
–noun
1.
a covering for all or part of the face, worn to conceal one's identity.
2.
a grotesque or humorous false face worn at a carnival, masquerade, etc.: Halloween masks.
3.
Also called swim mask. a device consisting typically of a transparent glass or plastic panel fitted into a flexible rubber gasket that fits snugly around the eyes, over the cheeks, and usually over the nose: used by skin divers.
4.
anything that disguises or conceals; disguise; pretense: His politeness is a mask for his fundamentally malicious personality.
5.
a likeness of a face, as one molded on the face in plaster. Compare death mask, life mask.
6.
a covering of wire, gauze, etc., to protect the face, as from splinters, dust, or a pitched ball.
7.
gas mask.
8.
any protective covering for the face or head.
9.
any protective covering, as paper, cardboard, plastic, or the like, used for masking an area of something, as of a photograph or window.
10.
the dark shading on the muzzle of certain dogs.
11.
a representation of a face or head, generally grotesque, used as an architectural ornament or as a decorative device in weaponry, furniture, etc.
12.
a person wearing a mask; masker.
13.
masque ( defs. 1–3 ) .
14.
Also, masque. a cosmetic cream, gel, paste, or the like, that is applied to the face and allowed to remain for a short time before being removed and is used for tightening, cleansing, refreshing, or lubricating the skin.
15.
a piece of cloth, silk, or plastic material covering the face of an actor to symbolize the character being represented: used in Greek and Roman drama and in some modern plays.
16.
the face or head, as of a fox.
17.
Electronics . a type of stencil applied to the surface of a semiconductor to permit selective etching or deposition: used in the manufacture of integrated circuits by photolithography.
18.
Fortification . a screen, as of earth or brush, for concealing or protecting a battery or any military operation.
19.
Also called braker. Shipbuilding . a sliding timber construction braced against the stern of a hull being launched to keep it from entering the water too rapidly.
–verb (used with object)
20.
to disguise or conceal; hide; dissemble: to mask one's intentions.
21.
to cover or conceal with a mask.
22.
to cover or shield a part of (a design, picture, etc.) in order to prevent reproduction or to protect the surface from the colors used, as in working with an air brush or in painting.
23.
Fortification . to conceal (a battery or any military operation) from the enemy.
24.
to hinder, as an army, from conducting an operation.

 

[Sunni Man]

Wow, you are really ate up with this mask thing Syrenn.

Btw is a woman's makeup considered a mask??