No veils in France

[manifold]

sentence much?

Still not a rebuttal though.

Seriously Mani? You were actually expecting a rebuttal over that one word?

OK, if your argument is with that one, specific word, try 'severe' instead.

Less learned, but equally hyperbolic IMO.

 

[syrenn]

Wow, you are really ate up with this mask thing Syrenn.

Btw is a woman's makeup considered a mask??

LOL, no,you just seem not to understand the idea of semantics...or what a mask is. So ya get the dictionary!

You can still see (hopefully ) what the face looks like under makeup, so no i would not consider that a mask.

 

[Sunni Man]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inm6J1lzqBI&feature=youtube_gdata_player]YouTube - Makeup lesson with Tammy Faye Bakker[/ame]

 

[syrenn]

YouTube - Makeup lesson with Tammy Faye Bakker

Nasty as her makeup was, you could still see her lying face.

 

[Anguille]

No one has explained yet how a man telling women they cannot wear burkas is being any less oppressive than a man who tells them they must wear burkas.

 

[syrenn]

No one has explained yet how a man telling women they cannot wear burkas is being any less oppressive than a man who tells them they must wear burkas.

The way i see it is if they want to wear them please feel free to move (or stay) to a country that wants women to wear them.

 

[Anguille]

No one has explained yet how a man telling women they cannot wear burkas is being any less oppressive than a man who tells them they must wear burkas.

The way i see it is if they want to wear them please feel free to move (or stay) to a country that wants women to wear them.

Fashion police to the extreme!!!

 

[syrenn]

No one has explained yet how a man telling women they cannot wear burkas is being any less oppressive than a man who tells them they must wear burkas.

The way i see it is if they want to wear them please feel free to move (or stay) to a country that wants women to wear them.

Fashion police to the extreme!!!

I was not under the impression that they were wearing then for fashion reasons. Fashion has nothing to do with it.

 

[Anguille]

The way i see it is if they want to wear them please feel free to move (or stay) to a country that wants women to wear them.

Fashion police to the extreme!!!

I was not under the impression that they were wearing then for fashion reasons. Fashion has nothing to do with it.

Why should they even have to give a reason for wanting to wear them?

 

[Blagger]

Fashion police to the extreme!!!

I was not under the impression that they were wearing then for fashion reasons. Fashion has nothing to do with it.

Why should they even have to give a reason for wanting to wear them?

Apart from protecting us against the elements, clothing protects our modesty; not our identity. Western society has laws and conventions in place that protect us from tyranny, protects our freedom of speach etc... But nowhere does it state that it's socially acceptable to shield your identity in public. Only muslim women are exempt,on religious grounds, even though the Qur'an doesn't mandate the burka. It's not just inequality, it's misinformed inequality.

If it's traditionally and socially acceptable to scurry about like an unaccounted for ghost in the middle east and muslim countries, fine, do it there. In western society, you're expected to show your face in public.

 

[Anguille]

I was not under the impression that they were wearing then for fashion reasons. Fashion has nothing to do with it.

Why should they even have to give a reason for wanting to wear them?

Apart from protecting us against the elements, clothing protects our modesty; not our identity. Western society has laws and conventions in place that protect us from tyranny, protects our freedom of speach etc... But nowhere does it state that it's socially acceptable to shield your identity in public. Only muslim women are exempt,on religious grounds, even though the Qur'an doesn't mandate the burka. It's not just inequality, it's misinformed inequality.

If it's traditionally and socially acceptable to scurry about like an unaccounted for ghost in the middle east and muslim countries, fine, do it there. In western society, you're expected to show your face in public.

I believe in person's right to privacy. I also believe in live and let live. And I don't believe social conventions and pressures to conform are a good enough reason to force people to expose parts of their bodies they do not wish to expose.

 

[Valerie]

They are free to wear the entire cover up in private and during religious ceremonies but ALL citizens are required to show their face in public places. Boo hoo.

 

[Anguille]

Should men be required to shave off their beards?

 

[Valerie]

Should men be required to shave off their beards?

Why would they be?

 

[syrenn]

Should men be required to shave off their beards?

COOL.... now that would be a law i would vigorously enforce! From this day forth all men must be clean shaven!

 

[Anguille]

Should men be required to shave off their beards?

Why would they be?

No reason at all. Just as there is no reason why anyone should be prevented from covering thier face.

 

[syrenn]

Should men be required to shave off their beards?

Why would they be?

No reason at all. Just as there is no reason why anyone should be prevented from covering thier face.

Works for me.. let the women grow beards.

 

[manifold]

No one has explained yet how a man telling women they cannot wear burkas is being any less oppressive than a man who tells them they must wear burkas.

First you'll have to explain how "a man telling women they cannot wear burkas" is an accurate characterization of this law.

 

[Anguille]

Why would they be?

No reason at all. Just as there is no reason why anyone should be prevented from covering thier face.

Works for me.. let the women grow beards.

 

[syrenn]

No reason at all. Just as there is no reason why anyone should be prevented from covering thier face.

Works for me.. let the women grow beards.

Oh come on...its france. I thought they liked hairy woman.