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    '69% of Israelis favor US-Israeli strike... JPost - National News

    Does this mean that what they've got is as good as it gets?
     
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    The crux of the matter is arabs and muslimes simply don't have enough land [99.9%] without taking Israel [0.1%].

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    I think the problem is that while it seems natural to go for a two state solution, it is very difficult to imagine a Palestinian state in Gaza and the West Bank being really viable and stable. I have believed for some time that the best solution would be for a Palestinian state to be created on the West Bank in confederation with Jordan (rather than as a seperate and fully independent state) so that Jordan can provide for a stable political structure and the necessary security. In such a scenario Gaza could similarly be attached to Egypt or also form part of the confederation with Jordan.
    But I'm afraid the Jordanians would not at all be interested in getting themselves burdened this way.
     
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    The two state solution was put on the table 75 years ago and we are farther away from it now than we were then. Can we say that it is dead?

    The Jordanian solution is an Israeli plan to keep all those potential Arab voters off its rolls. Neither Jordan nor the Palestinians like that idea.
     
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    Indeed, arabs, being perennial losers, wanted to rob jews 75 years ago as they want to rob jews now.
    Indeed, palistanians have always wanted one country too many.
     
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    Twenty years ago, I was supported the idea of a two state solution, but I agree with you that for a variety of reasons it is not feasible. According to the poll about 2/3 of both Israelis and Palestinian Arabs reject a one state solution, so what's left? People often say the present situation is not sustainable, but if we've eliminated all the alternatives, as this poll suggests we have, it has to be.
     
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    There's already a palesteenian state: Jordan.

    Jordan represented 80% of "palestine" [eastern palestine] during the British Mandate prior to the Brits giving it to the hashemite trash from arabia.

    Today, Jordan is 75% palesteenian, including the Queen.

    Free Jordanian-Occupied Palestine!!! :clap2:
     
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    In 1967, after liberating Jerusalem, Dayan ordered the IDF to stop, assuming that Jordan would retain control of the rest of the West Bank, but when he learned that the Jordanian army had retreated all the way to the other side of the river, he ordered the IDF to move to the west bank of the river. Within a week after the war, Israel offered to return all the land it had captured, including all of the West Bank minus Jerusalem, in return for peace. The offer, of course, was rejected by the Arabs when they met in Khartoum, but had Jordan and Egypt accepted that offer, there would have been no further discussion of a Palestinian Arab state or an Israeli occupation.
     
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    In the aftermath of the '67 War, Israel offered forfeiture of seized lands merely in exchange for a peace pact with the rabs. The Arab League flatly rejected Israel's peace offer with the famous Khartoum Resolution Three Nos: No peace with Israel, no negotiations with Israel and no right of Israel to exist.

    It was then that Israel decided to proceed with construction of communities in Judea and Samaria.

    Rabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity
     

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