No, Bernie Sanders is not going to bankrupt America to the tune of $18 trillion

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

No, Bernie Sanders is not going to bankrupt America to the tune of $18 trillion

That's because he is never going to be president

 

[Avorysuds]

It self refutes. It's called math.

Then go ahead. Please. Read the article parts that I posted and show me whats wrong there....

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

Speeding up thanks to Bush/Obama war mongering.

It doubled under Obozo

.Want to double it again and send us over the brink with Sanders???

Why the hell not? How do YOU personally suggest we fix it? I see Sanders idea as a good idea because 1. It brings companies back to the US which puts people to work which means more taxable income,It also fixes our infrastructure which means putting people to work and OFF of welfare.

Actually.... BS wants to create a Trillion dollar welfare program out the gate, building "infrastructure." Gee, I don't see how money could possibly get lost by the hundreds of billions.

You realize Obama said the same thing about the Stimulus, shovel ready jobs...

You just want people to believe it will work under BS and history has told you over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over that it simply does not work that way. That's the problem with socialism.

 

[hortysir]

pssst.....





we're already $18T in the hole

 

[Preacher]

So no one has read the OP and no one can refute anything....no surprise.

 

[Zander]

It self refutes.

 

[Preacher]

It self refutes.

Yawn. Read the OP.

 

[nat4900]

He belongs in an insane asylum.

Didn't your hero, Reagan close most of them down?

 

[Avorysuds]

It self refutes.

Yawn. Read the OP.

No thanks... Because even if we did, and put up an incredibly good argument you would still call us names and vote for him.

 

[FA_Q2]

So no one has read the OP and no one can refute anything....no surprise.

Your OP ignores utterly ignores economic realities.

You are assuming that when we 'change' the way that we pay for those services they somehow remain completely stable - that is a farce. Use SKYROCKETS and value added plummets. Healthcare is one of those examples. Make healthcare free and then ever time that someone gets the sniffles or athletes foot they go to the doctor using massive amounts of resources but adding nothing to the outcome. That cost a LOT more. Further, government adds massive inefficiency to the system as a whole.

 

[Preacher]

It self refutes.

Yawn. Read the OP.

No thanks... Because even if we did, and put up an incredibly good argument you would still call us names and vote for him.

Funny thing is I'm not voting for him! I am voting 3rd party but I refuse to stand by and let idiots lie about his policies because they are good policies.

 

[Avorysuds]

It self refutes.

Yawn. Read the OP.

No thanks... Because even if we did, and put up an incredibly good argument you would still call us names and vote for him.

Funny thing is I'm not voting for him! I am voting 3rd party but I refuse to stand by and let idiots lie about his policies because they are good policies.

K, whatever dude... Then maybe you should waste your time pushing someone you would vote for rather than someone you won't... Unless you're trolling, are you trollin bro?

 

[Preacher]

It self refutes.

Yawn. Read the OP.

No thanks... Because even if we did, and put up an incredibly good argument you would still call us names and vote for him.

Funny thing is I'm not voting for him! I am voting 3rd party but I refuse to stand by and let idiots lie about his policies because they are good policies.

K, whatever dude... Then maybe you should waste your time pushing someone you would vote for rather than someone you won't... Unless you're trolling, are you trollin bro?

Nope. Spreading FACTS not the faux news propaganda every libertarian/republican here believes.

 

[GHook93]

No, Bernie Sanders is not going to bankrupt America to the tune of $18 trillion

while Sanders does want to spend significant amounts of money, almost all of it is on things we’re already paying for; he just wants to change how we pay for them. In some ways it’s by spreading out a cost currently borne by a limited number of people to all taxpayers. His plan for free public college would do this: right now, it’s paid for by students and their families, while under Sanders’ plan we’d all pay for it in the same way we all pay for parks or the military or food safety.

OH NOES! How horrible! We all pay for food safety and military but it would be EVIL to all pay to make a smarter population!

But health care is nevertheless a good place to examine why these big numbers can be so misleading. At the moment, total health care spending in the United States runs over $3 trillion a year; according to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, over the next decade (from 2015-2024), America will spend a total of $42 trillion on health care. This is money that you and I and everyone else spends. We spend it in a variety of ways: through our health-insurance premiums, through the reduced salaries we get if our employers pick up part or all of the cost of those premiums, through our co-pays and deductibles, and through our taxes that fund Medicare, Medicaid, ACA subsidies, and the VA health care system. We’re already paying about $10,000 a year per capita for health care.

So let’s say that Bernie Sanders became president and passed a single-payer health care system of some sort. And let’s say that it did indeed cost $15 trillion over 10 years. Would that be $15 trillion in new money we’d be spending? No, it would be money that we’re already spending on health care, but now it would go through government. If I told you I could cut your health insurance premiums by $1,000 and increase your taxes by $1,000, you wouldn’t have lost $1,000. You’d be in the same place you are now.

Wait you mean I wouldn't have to spend so much on healthcare!? OH GOD! The sky is falling!

There’s something else to keep in mind: every single-payer system in the world, and there are many of them of varying flavors, is cheaper than the American health care system. Every single one. So whatever you might say about Sanders’ advocacy for a single-payer system, you can’t say it represents some kind of profligate, free-spending idea that would cost us all terrible amounts of money.

But hey! WE NEEDS OUR FREEDUMBS! WE NEED OUR FREEDUMBS TO PAY THOUSANDS IN HEALTHCARE COSTS! FREEDUMB FREEDUMB! Oh wait...that's only if you are rich....for the rest of us it would be like I saw the other day....A LINE HUNDREDS DEEP waiting in the cold outside for free dental care because they can't afford it!


For instance, Sanders wants to spend $1 trillion over 10 years on infrastructure. That’s a lot of money, but it’s significantly less than experts say we need to repair all of our crumbling roads, bridges, water systems, and so on. And infrastructure spending creates immediate jobs and has economic benefits that persist over time, which we’d also have to take into account in deciding whether it’s a good idea. But just saying, “$1 trillion is a lot of money!” doesn’t tell you whether or not we should do it.

Well isn't that something you republicans can agree to? More jobs? Hmmm? Or is that evil because the government would be replacing and fixing things we already pay for but are costing an arm and a leg every year to keep up and its just not enough!


Facts are folks republicans are FINE with government as long as its paying for certain things

1.WAR!
2.AIDE to Israel


That's about it.

Dude he is Jewish, he just went to a Jewish holiday ceremony and he is a Zionist! Shouldn't you be against, being a dumb as dirty redneck douche bag?


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[Avorysuds]

It self refutes.

Yawn. Read the OP.

No thanks... Because even if we did, and put up an incredibly good argument you would still call us names and vote for him.

Funny thing is I'm not voting for him! I am voting 3rd party but I refuse to stand by and let idiots lie about his policies because they are good policies.

K, whatever dude... Then maybe you should waste your time pushing someone you would vote for rather than someone you won't... Unless you're trolling, are you trollin bro?

Nope. Spreading FACTS not the faux news propaganda every libertarian/republican here believes.

I bet you everything I own against everything you own that you watch more fawx news than I do.

Also, why is it always the mother fuckers that yell the word "facts" the most that seem to know the least about any given subject.

 

[GHook93]

It self refutes. It's called math.

Then go ahead. Please. Read the article parts that I posted and show me whats wrong there....

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

Speeding up thanks to Bush/Obama war mongering.

It doubled under Obozo

.Want to double it again and send us over the brink with Sanders???

Why the hell not? How do YOU personally suggest we fix it? I see Sanders idea as a good idea because 1. It brings companies back to the US which puts people to work which means more taxable income,It also fixes our infrastructure which means putting people to work and OFF of welfare.

Again you know he is a Jewish Zionist right, you said Jews were the enemy!


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[GHook93]

It self refutes.

Yawn. Read the OP.

No thanks... Because even if we did, and put up an incredibly good argument you would still call us names and vote for him.

Funny thing is I'm not voting for him! I am voting 3rd party but I refuse to stand by and let idiots lie about his policies because they are good policies.

You lie about every Jew except one who actual does want to destroy the U.S. and flood it with illegals. I have to ask? Do you smoke crack or are you just retarded?


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[nat4900]

Because even if we did, and put up an incredibly good argument you would still call us names and vote for him.

Oh, the calumny of it all, right?

 

[Avorysuds]

Because even if we did, and put up an incredibly good argument you would still call us names and vote for him.

Oh, the calumny of it all, right?

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I have no idea what your point is...

 

[nat4900]

I have no idea what your point is...

Given your ilk's acumen, you DESERVE to be called names.