NJ Same-Sex Marriage Bill to be Considered Next Week

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    Isn't this issue usually put to referendum? Any predictions?
     
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    I live in NJ and I support same sex marriage.

    But I oppose pushing through a lame duck bill to avoid Christie. Christie was elected and stated his opposition outright.
    The bill should go through the formal process
     
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    Just more dictatorship by the politicians.

    Why not let the people vote on the issue?
     
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    Because nobody should vote on what rights others are allowed to have
     
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    I don't agree with you rightwinger, but I respect your opinion. I'm all for civil unions with all the same rights as marriage, but I don't believe in changing the definition of the word. But I am still confused as to why it goes to referendum in some states, and not in NJ. Do you know why?
     
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    the states where it has gone to referendum have been states where same sex marriage has been legalized by the legislature and the referenda have been used to overturn that law.

    we've had same sex marriage here for almost six years, and it's made almost as big a difference in my life and marriage of 27 years as the hale-bopp comet.

    almost.
     
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    If NJ is going to get same sex marriage, it shouldn't be through some last minute back door legislation.

    I do not believe a vote is the way to determine what rights or privleges another group should have. Should whites get to vote on whether blacks should be allowed to vote?

    Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for supper
     
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    what difference is there between a legislature voting a bill into law and a general election to do the same, besides scope?
     
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    The difference is living in a republic vs living in a democracy. In a republic we elect representatives to execute policy, we don't vote on every policy.

    If America got to vote on slavery or civil rights, none would have passed. That is why we need courts to protect the rights of the minority
     
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    but i thought you said rights should never be voted on?

    what difference does the venue make?
     

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