Next Step in Evolution of our Civilisation

[Neser Boha]

And isn't he able to do so?

No, he's not. He's unable to cope with his stress, and has instead engaged in a harmful addiction as a result. It's a destructive behavior. No different than a person who cuts themselves, or a captive bird that plucks its own feathers out.

You hit the nail on the head - perhaps unintentionally - people start abusing and get addicted to drugs most often because of other issues, such as extreme stress, depression, anxiety issues, trauma, etc. That's what we should primarily focus on - not on denigrating them, making them into criminals (which only worsens their condition and creates an endless circle of evil) and creating black market that only criminals profit off.

Were drugs regulated and taxed, there'd more than enough revenue to take care of these issues, instead we're just throwing money away into a bottomless pit. Literally. We've been doing this since the 70's and the problem only got worse.

Time to find other solution and I think that solution is legalising and regulating/taxing.

Moreover, just because something is legal doesn't mean it's right/moral or that those that made it legal are supporting it. That's another thing that people get stuck on and I understand that. I'm not for drug abuse. I'm not even for using heavy drugs. I'm actually really against it, but the fact is that prohibition doesn't work. It's actually only made things worse. So what do we do with a problem that is only getting worse? We try to find a different solution and that's what all this is about.

 

[Searcher44]

Take all the drugs you want, but if you are on drugs you get $0.00 welfare none we are not going to financially support a bunch of drug brained losers.

I'll take your word for it.

 

[SwimExpert]

And isn't he able to do so?

No, he's not. He's unable to cope with his stress, and has instead engaged in a harmful addiction as a result. It's a destructive behavior. No different than a person who cuts themselves, or a captive bird that plucks its own feathers out.

You hit the nail on the head - perhaps unintentionally - people start abusing and get addicted to drugs most often because of other issues, such as extreme stress, depression, anxiety issues, trauma, etc. That's what we should primarily focus on - not on denigrating them, making them into criminals (which only worsens their condition and creates an endless circle of evil) and creating black market that only criminals profit off.

Were drugs regulated and taxed, there'd more than enough revenue to take care of these issues, instead we're just throwing money away into a bottomless pit. Literally. We've been doing this since the 70's and the problem only got worse.

Time to find other solution and I think that solution is legalising and regulating/taxing.

Moreover, just because something is legal doesn't mean it's right/moral or that those that made it legal are supporting it. That's another thing that people get stuck on and I understand that. I'm not for drug abuse. I'm not even for using heavy drugs. I'm actually really against it, but the fact is that prohibition doesn't work. It's actually only made things worse. So what do we do with a problem that is only getting worse? We try to find a different solution and that's what all this is about.

*yawn*

All you are doing is making the point that we need better solutions to dealing with drugs in our society. And you're absolutely correct. However, nothing you have said provides a scintilla of support for legalization being the solution. And I say that as someone who 100% supports legalization of all drugs.

All of your arguments are the same kind of non sequitors that politicians love to employ to push through agendas that have nothing to do with the actual problems they claim to care about.

 

[Neser Boha]

And isn't he able to do so?

No, he's not. He's unable to cope with his stress, and has instead engaged in a harmful addiction as a result. It's a destructive behavior. No different than a person who cuts themselves, or a captive bird that plucks its own feathers out.

You hit the nail on the head - perhaps unintentionally - people start abusing and get addicted to drugs most often because of other issues, such as extreme stress, depression, anxiety issues, trauma, etc. That's what we should primarily focus on - not on denigrating them, making them into criminals (which only worsens their condition and creates an endless circle of evil) and creating black market that only criminals profit off.

Were drugs regulated and taxed, there'd more than enough revenue to take care of these issues, instead we're just throwing money away into a bottomless pit. Literally. We've been doing this since the 70's and the problem only got worse.

Time to find other solution and I think that solution is legalising and regulating/taxing.

Moreover, just because something is legal doesn't mean it's right/moral or that those that made it legal are supporting it. That's another thing that people get stuck on and I understand that. I'm not for drug abuse. I'm not even for using heavy drugs. I'm actually really against it, but the fact is that prohibition doesn't work. It's actually only made things worse. So what do we do with a problem that is only getting worse? We try to find a different solution and that's what all this is about.

*yawn*

All you are doing is making the point that we need better solutions to dealing with drugs in our society. And you're absolutely correct. However, nothing you have said provides a scintilla of support for legalization being the solution. And I say that as someone who 100% supports legalization of all drugs.

All of your arguments are the same kind of non sequitors that politicians love to employ to push through agendas that have nothing to do with the actual problems they claim to care about.

Ok, so you are trolling around here just to be an asshole, great.

You must have a fulfilling and complete life.

Go bother someone else.

 

[Neser Boha]

All of your arguments are the same kind of non sequitors that politicians love to employ to push through agendas that have nothing to do with the actual problems they claim to care about.

If YOU have better arguments, why not share them with me instead of being an ass? Also, none of what I said was a non sequitur. But who cares, since you have all the answers ...

Also, did you not watch the videos I posted in the opening post? I let those people speak for this issue/me. I am not pretending to be the mouthpiece of this movement.

 

[Neser Boha]

Another great video ... there are so many of them out there and possibly even better ones, I suggest anyone interested in this search on youtube/internet ... There are so many resources on this subject online! And most of the sources are reliable.

 

[SwimExpert]

If YOU have better arguments, why not share them with me instead of being an ass?

You're the one who started the thread. Support your position.

 

[SwimExpert]

You must have a fulfilling and complete life.

Indeed I do! That's why I don't take things on this board too seriously. This is board exists for entertainment, nothing more. Shame that your life isn't as fulfilling as mine.

 

[Papageorgio]

You must have a fulfilling and complete life.

Indeed I do! That's why I don't take things on this board too seriously. This is board exists for entertainment, nothing more. Shame that your life isn't as fulfilling as mine.

Actually, this board exists just to entertain me, nothing more. Thanks for the entertainment.

 

[Neser Boha]

If YOU have better arguments, why not share them with me instead of being an ass?

You're the one who started the thread. Support your position.

I'm supporting it. You are just trolling.

 

[Neser Boha]

You must have a fulfilling and complete life.

Indeed I do! That's why I don't take things on this board too seriously. This is board exists for entertainment, nothing more. Shame that your life isn't as fulfilling as mine.

Oh, excuse me if I'm actually trying to start a little intelligent and civilised discussion around here! Didn't know it was all about making potshots at people ...

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

The next step should be the correct spelling of civilization.

Have you ever heard of 'British English'? They also write 'neighbour, labour and aluminium'.

Yes... they also feel that Armed Robbery, Mugging and Home Invasion is a viable vocation. And they're one generation from being a Muslim Culture.

So, why on Earth would we want to follow the British down the Rabbit Hole?

 

[Neser Boha]

The next step should be the correct spelling of civilization.

Have you ever heard of 'British English'? They also write 'neighbour, labour and aluminium'.

Yes... they also feel that Armed Robbery, Mugging and Home Invasion is a viable vocation. And they're one generation from being a Muslim Culture.

So, why on Earth would we want to follow the British down the Rabbit Hole?

What the fuck are you talking about ...

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Once again... we find a Mouthy British Socialist Posing as a US Citizen, coming to offer a false choice.

Get BENT!

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The next step should be the correct spelling of civilization.

Have you ever heard of 'British English'? They also write 'neighbour, labour and aluminium'.

What does the US stand for in USMessageBoard?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Another thread by addicts.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

The next step should be the correct spelling of civilization.

Have you ever heard of 'British English'? They also write 'neighbour, labour and aluminium'.

What does the US stand for in USMessageBoard?

Given all the Euro-Peons on this board... it could easily mean: Under Siege.

 

[Neser Boha]

Great, all the trolls have congregated here ... so fucking typical and boring.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Great, all the trolls have congregated here ... so fucking typical and boring.

Are you not another addict?

 

[Neser Boha]

No, I am not an addict. As a matter of fact, I've never been addicted to any substance - legal or illegal.

I've already outlined why I'm interested in this issue in the opening post.

It's actually quite simple and logical - I want the massive amounts of money that pretty much all governments around the world (whether it be US, UK or Sweden) are throwing at this ridiculous and clearly pointless 'war' and use it for more important things.

Also, by regulating, controlling and taxing these substances, we could make sure that children don't have an access to them (under 18 years of age, for example, just like it is with tobacco and alcohol in most countries) AND create even more revenue that could be used for far more logical ends - healthcare, education, innovation, etc.

What more... I'm also rather interested in the justice system - right now particularly the one in the US, but other countries' as well and I'm rather flabbergasted every time a true crime (murder, rape, child abuse) is improperly investigated because of 'lack of resources.' Yeah, it's true - there is 'lack of resources' and that is mostly due to all those precious resources being used in this imbecilic and fucked-up-beyond-belief 'war on drugs.'

I love justice, as a matter of fact, I'm pretty much obsessed with it (maybe that could be considered my addiction) and I also adore logic and there is NONE of it in 'war on drugs.'

Also, watch all the motherfucking videos I posted on here, as well as the links. Just because one of the organisations is from UK doesn't mean that their facts are not straight.