New Survey: Polar Bear Population Is Largest Ever

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    Your entire comment was dead on arrival since you were wrong on all of it starting with DOCTOR Crockford, who has a PHD in ZOOLOGY with 40 publications, mostly covering the Arctic region and various animals. With 35+ years of active service in research in the field and in Universities, she is well qualified to discuss Polar Bears.

    The rest of your comments are too stupid to respond as I know you are a dishonest person. Dr. Crockfod NEVER said that one region represented all of them. Why lie so causally, when it can be spotted so easily for what it is?

    There was ZERO propaganda in it since the data was from the Fish and WILDLIFE survey.
     
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    madMOOT, if you have a problem with insults and name-calling, you should refrain from that activity and stick to issues. Go ahead a make a comment about an issue and I will gladly address it. You should also refrain from simply posting idiotic contradictions. You are not one to take serious, when all you offer is insults, name-calling, and contradictions. You set yourself up for ridicule when 99% of your posts are as such.
     
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    Fish and Wildlife are straight up liars. I've had them text back and forth with me where they admit they lie to keep people from going here or there. They're nutjobs and lying is their job.
     
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    Translation: I have no cogent counterpoint to the article, therefore post unsubstantiated unrelated anger with the F&WS instead.
     
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    They lie all the time. It's their job.

    Red Wolf Advocates Accuse the Feds of Lying to Justify Their ‘Cowardly New Plan’
     
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    "In several recent cases at the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS), a branch of the Department of the Interior, Bush administration officials have demonstrated a serious disregard for scientific integrity by suppressing or distorting research by government scientists or contractors.

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    Distorting evidence is all they have ever done.

    Science Undermined at the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
     
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    Still waiting for evidence they lied about Polar Bear counts...….

    All you posted was an ACCUSATION, nothing more. Lets wait to see what the truth really is.
     
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    Don't worry trump and his mind will change that
     
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    From YOUR highly misleading link is this gem:

    "We do know (and I have published papers on this) that some polar bear populations grew after quotas were imposed in Canada, aerial hunting ceased in Alaska, and trapping and hunting were banned in Svalbard. All of these events occurred in the late 60s or early 70s, and we know some populations responded—as you would expect. Some populations were not being hunted back then (or were hunted very little) and those were probably unaffected by these three actions.

    Back then, the sea ice was solid and not noticeably in retreat. With stable habitat, polar bears were a renewable resource that could be harvested on a sustainable basis.

    But the most important point is that whatever happened in the past is really irrelevant. Polar bear habitat is disappearing due to global warming. Even the most careful on-the-ground management doesn't matter if polar bears don't have the required habitat.

    Polar bears depend on the sea ice surface to efficiently catch their seal prey. A shorter duration of ice cover over their productive hunting areas means less opportunity to hunt. A reduction in sea ice has been statistically linked to reduced stature and weight in polar bears and to lower survival rates of cubs. So, it doesn't really matter that hunting is now largely under control or that we know a lot about other impacts people might have on bears. Without habitat, polar bears will disappear no matter what else we do."

    Yes Controlling the Hunt made a difference in some areas, especially in Canada where most of it occurs.

    Armstrup hopes you are ignorant of Polar Bears dietary habits, since LOW to NO Summer Sea ice cover is IRRELEVANT as they have already gained most of their calories for the year by late June. Then we have numerous published papers that shows there were little to no Summer ice for CENTURIES in the Early Holocene up the MWP time frame, yet they are here and in large numbers even NOW, despite that the Summer Arctic ice cover has been low for over a decade, they are NOT declining even with that long period of low Summer Ice.

    Polar Bears are in no danger these days, despite the misleading claims being made on them.
     
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