New problem for Americans abroad...

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  1. Bullypulpit
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    After accepting a judgement from the World Court on the application of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, the Bush administration reversed its stance.

    The World Court ruled that some 50 Mexicans on death-row should recieve new trials as they had not been provided consular access under the Convention, which the US is signatory to and has used successfully by the US in several cases over the years.

    In reversing its acceptance of the World Court's decision and withdraw from the Convention, the Administration has, yet again, endangered US citizens overseas. Any US citizen arrested in a foreign country can be denied consular aid and access. This decision follows after the Administration's decision to deny prisoners captured in Afghanistan protection under the Geneva Conventions, thus endangering US troops who might be captured in the current, or any future, conflict.

    For more on the issue goto:

    http://writ.news.findlaw.com/leavitt/20050314.html
     
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    manu1959 Left Coast Isolationist

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    yes that poor boy in thialand that spit gum on the sidewalk was well treated as were all the people that have been beheaded ..... you are so right .... release all the gitmo detainees ..... pull out of iraq and afganistan and appologize to everyone .... all will be forgiven and then we will have a group hug ..... say ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :suck:
     
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    Unable to discuss the issue...he resorts to inanities and adolescent humor. How sad.
     
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    I think you are referring to the kid in Singapore that vandalized many cars, etc. and had to take a canning to the butt. He deserved it. As did the other two Singaporean males that were caned more severely than he was. He was given fewer swats because of US pressure. I say, when in Rome.... If you break local laws, you should be subject to local prosecution. Period. If you are not willing to take that risk, then don't travel to countries you are worried will treat American unfairly. Easy nuff.

    Bully is once again trying to make something outta NOTHING.
     
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    the kid was the son of a Fed X higher up that did not know that he should have put his son on a plane out of there.....the german and french fathers got their kids out asap.....
     
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    screw the World Court. Maybe the Europeans are perfectly happy to ive away their sovereignty, but the day that International Law actually has bearing in the US will be a dark day indeed.
     
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    im lost i thought this was a bully thread but it didnt have an abnormally large header centered over a pile of garbage.
     
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    What everyone seems to forget is that US law is based on the US constitution. The fact that several Supreme Court Justices cite international and foriegn countries' law as a basis for their decisions should make US citizens sit up and take notice. Not only are our citizen's individual rights slowly being eroded but slowly and surely our nation's soveriegnty is being eroded as well.
     
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    I think what pisses y'all off is that, unlike the administration, some members of the SCOTUS recognize that America does not exist in a vaccum, and must make efforts to fall into step with the rest of the world on legal issues, and not just when it is convenient for the US and its interests to do so. Isolationism is a bad policy at any time, but especially now, given the international nature of the threats we face together with the rest of the world.

    It is also important to note that the US designed the protocol in 1963, and successfully applied it in suing Iran over the taking of US hostages in 1979. I would suggest y'all follow the link I posted and actually read the article there.
     
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    Yet again, you fall back on the lowest common denominator...Insults and excreta...in a vain attempt to disguise your inability to converse, rationally, on the subject. :rolleyes:
     

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