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I said the circum-equatorial current ended in the Pliocene, not the Pleistocene and started in the Cretaceous. That means it was around for about 150 million years. I posted when it ended and gave links. Try doing some research for a change and stop wasting my time asking the same thing over and over!
I know what you said. I asked you to show me a graphic showing land masses in a position that would allow a circum equatorial current. I can't help but notice that you haven't provided one.
I have done the research dubya which is why I am asking the question. The research doesn't support the claim. It is you who is beliving on faith.
Again, lets see the graphic showing land masses in a position that would allow such a current.
Our present thermohaline circulation couldn't have existed with that circum-equatorial current, but to really understand why you would have to examine our present thermohaline circulation and see how heat is transferred around the planet. Don't you think packing 25 meters of sea level on ice sheets also has an effect on ocean currents?
You are simply assuming a circum equatorial current. The land masses clearly haven't allowed for any current that could be rationally called circum equatorial for more than 500 million years.
Once again, if you want to argue for a circum equatorial current, you are going to have to show me land masses in such a position to allow for such a current. So far, the fact that you haven't really hurts your argument.
The Pliocene was a major time of changes and one we know a lot about, because it wasn't that long ago.
The land masses were where they were dubya and clearly there was no possibility of a circum equatorial current with the land masses in those positions. Are you arguing that they were somewhere else? Lets see the grapic if you believe so.
South America became linked to North America through the Isthmus of Panama during the Pliocene, making possible the Great American Interchange and bringing a nearly complete end to South America's distinctive large marsupial predator and native ungulate faunas. The formation of the Isthmus had major consequences on global temperatures, since warm equatorial ocean currents were cut off and an Atlantic cooling cycle began, with cold Arctic and Antarctic waters dropping temperatures in the now-isolated Atlantic Ocean.
A circum-equatorial current doesn't have to always be exactly at the equator, it just mainly follows the equator all the way around the world and continues itself. That's why it's a major warm current that would branch off and spread heat. You've posted maps prior to the Pliocene, so figure it out!
A circum-equatorial current doesn't have to always be exactly at the equator, it just mainly follows the equator all the way around the world and continues itself. That's why it's a major warm current that would branch off and spread heat. You've posted maps prior to the Pliocene, so figure it out!
I am afraid that it is you who needs to figure it out dubya. Here is the graphic from your own source showing the land masses during the Pliestocene:
Show me where anything like a circum equatorial current could have flowed. Show me where a a current could possibly follow the equator all the way around the world. What route might it have taken to "mainly" follow the equator all the way around the world and continue itself.
Look closely at your own graphic dubya and tell me where it might have flowed.
Panama arrived about 3.5 million years ago and ended the circum-equatorial current. Warm currents can't travel to the north or south and stay warm. Circum means around the world, fool! How many times do you have to be told it's the Pliocene and not the Pliestocene?
Pliocene (pl-sn)
The fifth and last epoch of the Tertiary Period, from about 5 to 2 million years ago. During this time the global climate became cooler and the number and expanse of grasslands and savannas increased greatly. This change in vegetation was accompanied by an increase in long-legged grazers. The land bridge between North America and South America also formed at this time, and massive ice sheets accumulated at the poles. In the later part of the epoch many of the species living in polar regions became extinct. See Chart at geologic time.
Isthmus closed about 3.5 million years ago.
I said the circum-equatorial current ended in the Pliocene, not the Pleistocene and started in the Cretaceous. That means it was around for about 150 million years. I posted when it ended and gave links. Try doing some research for a change and stop wasting my time asking the same thing over and over!
Our present thermohaline circulation couldn't have existed with that circum-equatorial current, but to really understand why you would have to examine our present thermohaline circulation and see how heat is transferred around the planet. Don't you think packing 25 meters of sea level on ice sheets also has an effect on ocean currents?
The Pliocene was a major time of changes and one we know a lot about, because it wasn't that long ago.
Don't you mean sea ice floating on 25 meter deeper water? You are digging yourself in deeper and deeper. There has been no time when a CEC could have existed. Africa kind of precludes that.
You are definitely not a Geologist and say things like a total idiot.
I said the circum-equatorial current ended in the Pliocene, not the Pleistocene and started in the Cretaceous. That means it was around for about 150 million years. I posted when it ended and gave links. Try doing some research for a change and stop wasting my time asking the same thing over and over!
I know what you said. I asked you to show me a graphic showing land masses in a position that would allow a circum equatorial current. I can't help but notice that you haven't provided one.
I have done the research dubya which is why I am asking the question. The research doesn't support the claim. It is you who is beliving on faith.
Again, lets see the graphic showing land masses in a position that would allow such a current.
You are simply assuming a circum equatorial current. The land masses clearly haven't allowed for any current that could be rationally called circum equatorial for more than 500 million years.
Once again, if you want to argue for a circum equatorial current, you are going to have to show me land masses in such a position to allow for such a current. So far, the fact that you haven't really hurts your argument.
The land masses were where they were dubya and clearly there was no possibility of a circum equatorial current with the land masses in those positions. Are you arguing that they were somewhere else? Lets see the grapic if you believe so.
A circum-equatorial current doesn't have to always be exactly at the equator, it just mainly follows the equator all the way around the world and continues itself. That's why it's a major warm current that would branch off and spread heat. You've posted maps prior to the Pliocene, so figure it out!
South America became linked to North America through the Isthmus of Panama during the Pliocene, making possible the Great American Interchange and bringing a nearly complete end to South America's distinctive large marsupial predator and native ungulate faunas. The formation of the Isthmus had major consequences on global temperatures, since warm equatorial ocean currents were cut off and an Atlantic cooling cycle began, with cold Arctic and Antarctic waters dropping temperatures in the now-isolated Atlantic Ocean.
Source: Pliocene - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
When has it EVER been possible for a continuous current to circle the globe in ANY LATITUDE? Show us a map for when that would be possible.
A circum-equatorial current doesn't have to always be exactly at the equator, it just mainly follows the equator all the way around the world and continues itself. That's why it's a major warm current that would branch off and spread heat. You've posted maps prior to the Pliocene, so figure it out!
I am afraid that it is you who needs to figure it out dubya. Here is the graphic from your own source showing the land masses during the Pliestocene:
Show me where anything like a circum equatorial current could have flowed. Show me where a a current could possibly follow the equator all the way around the world. What route might it have taken to "mainly" follow the equator all the way around the world and continue itself.
Look closely at your own graphic dubya and tell me where it might have flowed.
Panama arrived about 3.5 million years ago and ended the circum-equatorial current. Warm currents can't travel to the north or south and stay warm. Circum means around the world, fool! How many times do you have to be told it's the Pliocene and not the Pliestocene?
Panama arrived about 3.5 million years ago and ended the circum-equatorial current. Warm currents can't travel to the north or south and stay warm. Circum means around the world, fool! How many times do you have to be told it's the Pliocene and not the Pliestocene?
Fail again dubya...the water between those two land masses would not have been nearly deep enough to have supported a CEC and besides that Africa and Asia thwart your claims. The fact is that the current you so wish for simply did not exist.
I am afraid that it is you who needs to figure it out dubya. Here is the graphic from your own source showing the land masses during the Pliestocene:
Show me where anything like a circum equatorial current could have flowed. Show me where a a current could possibly follow the equator all the way around the world. What route might it have taken to "mainly" follow the equator all the way around the world and continue itself.
Look closely at your own graphic dubya and tell me where it might have flowed.
Panama arrived about 3.5 million years ago and ended the circum-equatorial current. Warm currents can't travel to the north or south and stay warm. Circum means around the world, fool! How many times do you have to be told it's the Pliocene and not the Pliestocene?
Little old Panama ended it? What about that big mass to its east, you know AFRICA!
Pliocene (pl-sn)
The fifth and last epoch of the Tertiary Period, from about 5 to 2 million years ago. During this time the global climate became cooler and the number and expanse of grasslands and savannas increased greatly. This change in vegetation was accompanied by an increase in long-legged grazers. The land bridge between North America and South America also formed at this time, and massive ice sheets accumulated at the poles. In the later part of the epoch many of the species living in polar regions became extinct. See Chart at geologic time.
Isthmus closed about 3.5 million years ago.
How in hell do you know, Asswhole? You just make shit up.
A warm current circling the world can easily go around Africa and you obviously don't know where the equator is or that warm currents aren't deep.
You call this debating AGW, when in fact you clowns debate established science.
Do you have some kind of learning disability or do you clowns just troll forums with constant nonsense?
You're a worthless human being, Bulltit, who just uses the internet to spread his lies!
There were all kinds of things happening, in a fairly short geological time. Africa closed the gap at Gibraltar and the Mediterranean dried up. The Earth was cooling, but also drying.
How in hell do you know, Asswhole? You just make shit up.
Mainly because I can look at a map and understand what it says. The graphics I provided identify via different colors of blue the relative depths of the oceans at any given time period. See the light blue in the US/Panama area? Shallow sea dubya. You don't think as the surface land was moving together the sea bottom was changing as well?
And thanks for the name calling. That psychological defense again. Magical attacks on those to whom you feel inferior. From you and those like you, being called names is far better than receiving rep points.
A warm current circling the world can easily go around Africa and you obviously don't know where the equator is or that warm currents aren't deep.
Warm currents aren't deep? Really? You might for once in your life actually research something before you speak. Check the depth of the Gulf Stream or the Agulhas Current, or the East Australian Current, or the North Atlantic Drift. And you are talking about a current that you claim flowed uninterrupted around the entire earth dubya....use your brain. Such a current would have had to be very deep.
Hate to break this to you dubya, but a CEC is not established science. The depth of water required to maintain such a current is pretty well understood though and what we know about the positions of the land masses at various times in conjunction with what we know about ocean currents precludes the existence of your mythican CEC.
Do you have some kind of learning disability or do you clowns just troll forums with constant nonsense?
Ahhhhhhaaa. The name calling again. Feeling particularly inferior? Don't worry about it...you are. You are the willing victim of a hoax. You should be feeling inferior.
You're a worthless human being, Bulltit, who just uses the internet to spread his lies!
Transferrence - the act of shifting emotions or feelings of inadequacy onto another...espcecially onto the one percieved as causing the feelings of inadequacy.
Try understanding yourself and why you do what you do dubya.
There were all kinds of things happening, in a fairly short geological time. Africa closed the gap at Gibraltar and the Mediterranean dried up. The Earth was cooling, but also drying.
Shallow seas dubya...shallow seas. No deep CEC. Get yourself another theory. The CEC is a dead end.
Tell all the textbooks and encyclopedias in the world, fool!
Panama arrived about 3.5 million years ago and ended the circum-equatorial current. Warm currents can't travel to the north or south and stay warm. Circum means around the world, fool! How many times do you have to be told it's the Pliocene and not the Pliestocene?
Little old Panama ended it? What about that big mass to its east, you know AFRICA!
The geologist has discovered Africa and wants to get in the history books!
What a complete idiot you are!
There were all kinds of things happening, in a fairly short geological time. Africa closed the gap at Gibraltar and the Mediterranean dried up. The Earth was cooling, but also drying.
Shallow seas dubya...shallow seas. No deep CEC. Get yourself another theory. The CEC is a dead end.
Tell all the textbooks and encyclopedias in the world, fool!
Provide links to all these textbooks and encyclopedias then. Go ahead..I dare you, in fact I double dog dare you!
My daughter told me to say that!
