There Is No 'Environmental Science.'

[PoliticalChic]

1. The intellectual history of environmentalism reflects an amalgam of congregationalism, pantheism, the religious elements of Native American environmentalism meeting Hegelian philosophy and Rachel Carson. The rising diaspora of activism metastasized throughout the culture, until it was strong enough and pervasive enough to force legislation. The mistake is in believing it is based on science.




2. Karl Popper is generally regarded as one of the greatest philosophers of science of the 20th century [The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy(Summer 2009 Edition) ]; he watched the rise of Hitler, and the Nazis, and analyzed the conditions that allowed fascism to arise. He realized that all the totalitarian philosophies of the 20th century owe their origin to Hegel.

a. Hegel:“All the worth which the human being possesses - all spiritual reality, he possesses only through the State.” Hegel Quotations and Totalitarianism

b. Hegel managed to combine elements of religion with those of science, so that science took on a kind of religious significance.

3. In science, the straight line goes from Hegel to Ernst Haeckel, the man who coined the word ‘ecology.’

a. One spin-off of the Enlightenment was the desire to find new myths that would transcend daily existence and take one to a higher level of purification. Proto-fascist, and founder of ecology, Ernst Haeckel, invested nature-worship with the belief that all matter was alive and possessed mental attributes. In ‘monism,’ he brought together hostility to Christianity and propaganda for Darwinism, a nature cult and theories of hygiene and selective breeding.
J.W. Burrow, “The Crisis of Reason: European Thought, 1848-1914,” p. 218-19

b. Hegel to Haeckel to Hitler, or Marx and Engels to Soviet science or Nazi science. Both forms are corruptions of science.





4. After Lenin’s death, the effort was to create a proletariat science, based on the view that authority can change nature itself; "The human species, the sluggish Homo sapiens, will once again enter the stage of radical reconstruction and become in his own hands the object of the most complex methods of artificial selection and psychophysical training... Man will make it his goal...to create a higher sociobiological type, a superman, if you will"
New Soviet man - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. In fact, the Soviets, under agriculture minister Trofim Lysenko, fervently believed that they with the proper conditions they could change the genetics of crops, the idea known as ‘the inheritance of acquired characteristics.’ The Soviets actually banned the teaching of Mendelian genetics.
Science and politics

b. All humanities and social sciences were additionally tested for strict accordance with historical materialism. These tests were alleged to serve as a cover for political suppression, to terrorize scientists who engaged in research labeled as "idealistic" or "bourgeois.”
Suppressed research in the Soviet Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





5. Along came radical environmentalism’s Lady GaGa, Rachel Carson. Romanticizing nature, targeting humankind as the grand evil, in a book filled with anecdotal ‘science,’ she stole the hearts of Progressives.

a. Carson’s book was dismissed in ‘Science’ magazine as a “prosecuting attorney’s impassioned plea for action,” not a book based on scientific data. I.L.Baldwin, “Chemicals and Pests,” Science, September 28, 1962, p.1042-1043.





Progressive science? Environmentalism?
Corruptions of science propped up with taxpayer funds and 'targeted' academic grants.


And swallowed by the willfully ignorant.

Raise your paw if you're one.....

 

[IanC]

we scoffed at and scorned the soviets during the cold war. how did we become them?

 

[SSDD]

we scoffed at and scorned the soviets during the cold war. how did we become them?

Failure to learn from history.

 

[Dubya]

1. The intellectual history of environmentalism reflects an amalgam of congregationalism, pantheism, the religious elements of Native American environmentalism meeting Hegelian philosophy and Rachel Carson. The rising diaspora of activism metastasized throughout the culture, until it was strong enough and pervasive enough to force legislation. The mistake is in believing it is based on science.




2. Karl Popper is generally regarded as one of the greatest philosophers of science of the 20th century [The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy(Summer 2009 Edition) ]; he watched the rise of Hitler, and the Nazis, and analyzed the conditions that allowed fascism to arise. He realized that all the totalitarian philosophies of the 20th century owe their origin to Hegel.

a. Hegel:“All the worth which the human being possesses - all spiritual reality, he possesses only through the State.” Hegel Quotations and Totalitarianism

b. Hegel managed to combine elements of religion with those of science, so that science took on a kind of religious significance.

3. In science, the straight line goes from Hegel to Ernst Haeckel, the man who coined the word ‘ecology.’

a. One spin-off of the Enlightenment was the desire to find new myths that would transcend daily existence and take one to a higher level of purification. Proto-fascist, and founder of ecology, Ernst Haeckel, invested nature-worship with the belief that all matter was alive and possessed mental attributes. In ‘monism,’ he brought together hostility to Christianity and propaganda for Darwinism, a nature cult and theories of hygiene and selective breeding.
J.W. Burrow, “The Crisis of Reason: European Thought, 1848-1914,” p. 218-19

b. Hegel to Haeckel to Hitler, or Marx and Engels to Soviet science or Nazi science. Both forms are corruptions of science.





4. After Lenin’s death, the effort was to create a proletariat science, based on the view that authority can change nature itself; "The human species, the sluggish Homo sapiens, will once again enter the stage of radical reconstruction and become in his own hands the object of the most complex methods of artificial selection and psychophysical training... Man will make it his goal...to create a higher sociobiological type, a superman, if you will"
New Soviet man - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. In fact, the Soviets, under agriculture minister Trofim Lysenko, fervently believed that they with the proper conditions they could change the genetics of crops, the idea known as ‘the inheritance of acquired characteristics.’ The Soviets actually banned the teaching of Mendelian genetics.
Science and politics

b. All humanities and social sciences were additionally tested for strict accordance with historical materialism. These tests were alleged to serve as a cover for political suppression, to terrorize scientists who engaged in research labeled as "idealistic" or "bourgeois.”
Suppressed research in the Soviet Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





5. Along came radical environmentalism’s Lady GaGa, Rachel Carson. Romanticizing nature, targeting humankind as the grand evil, in a book filled with anecdotal ‘science,’ she stole the hearts of Progressives.

a. Carson’s book was dismissed in ‘Science’ magazine as a “prosecuting attorney’s impassioned plea for action,” not a book based on scientific data. I.L.Baldwin, “Chemicals and Pests,” Science, September 28, 1962, p.1042-1043.





Progressive science? Environmentalism?
Corruptions of science propped up with taxpayer funds and 'targeted' academic grants.


And swallowed by the willfully ignorant.

Raise your paw if you're one.....

Back in the old days, the subject was totally covered in Geology. There was no Earth Science to be taught at a univeristy. I had to take a lot of elective courses. to get through college as a Chemistry major. When stationed in Camp Lejeune, I took courses in Cultural Archaeology and Physical Anthropology. I took every course you can imagine, when it comes to science or anything related to it.

I admit I was chasing the money, because I grew up poor. Now, look at the reality back then. I grew up during a time when the minimum wage was the highest in history. I look back and think I'm fortunate, because these people who live in America today don't have that opportunity.

 

[Wry Catcher]

1. The intellectual history of environmentalism reflects an amalgam of congregationalism, pantheism, the religious elements of Native American environmentalism meeting Hegelian philosophy and Rachel Carson. The rising diaspora of activism metastasized throughout the culture, until it was strong enough and pervasive enough to force legislation. The mistake is in believing it is based on science.




2. Karl Popper is generally regarded as one of the greatest philosophers of science of the 20th century [The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy(Summer 2009 Edition) ]; he watched the rise of Hitler, and the Nazis, and analyzed the conditions that allowed fascism to arise. He realized that all the totalitarian philosophies of the 20th century owe their origin to Hegel.

a. Hegel:“All the worth which the human being possesses - all spiritual reality, he possesses only through the State.” Hegel Quotations and Totalitarianism

b. Hegel managed to combine elements of religion with those of science, so that science took on a kind of religious significance.

3. In science, the straight line goes from Hegel to Ernst Haeckel, the man who coined the word ‘ecology.’

a. One spin-off of the Enlightenment was the desire to find new myths that would transcend daily existence and take one to a higher level of purification. Proto-fascist, and founder of ecology, Ernst Haeckel, invested nature-worship with the belief that all matter was alive and possessed mental attributes. In ‘monism,’ he brought together hostility to Christianity and propaganda for Darwinism, a nature cult and theories of hygiene and selective breeding.
J.W. Burrow, “The Crisis of Reason: European Thought, 1848-1914,” p. 218-19

b. Hegel to Haeckel to Hitler, or Marx and Engels to Soviet science or Nazi science. Both forms are corruptions of science.





4. After Lenin’s death, the effort was to create a proletariat science, based on the view that authority can change nature itself; "The human species, the sluggish Homo sapiens, will once again enter the stage of radical reconstruction and become in his own hands the object of the most complex methods of artificial selection and psychophysical training... Man will make it his goal...to create a higher sociobiological type, a superman, if you will"
New Soviet man - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. In fact, the Soviets, under agriculture minister Trofim Lysenko, fervently believed that they with the proper conditions they could change the genetics of crops, the idea known as ‘the inheritance of acquired characteristics.’ The Soviets actually banned the teaching of Mendelian genetics.
Science and politics

b. All humanities and social sciences were additionally tested for strict accordance with historical materialism. These tests were alleged to serve as a cover for political suppression, to terrorize scientists who engaged in research labeled as "idealistic" or "bourgeois.”
Suppressed research in the Soviet Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





5. Along came radical environmentalism’s Lady GaGa, Rachel Carson. Romanticizing nature, targeting humankind as the grand evil, in a book filled with anecdotal ‘science,’ she stole the hearts of Progressives.

a. Carson’s book was dismissed in ‘Science’ magazine as a “prosecuting attorney’s impassioned plea for action,” not a book based on scientific data. I.L.Baldwin, “Chemicals and Pests,” Science, September 28, 1962, p.1042-1043.





Progressive science? Environmentalism?
Corruptions of science propped up with taxpayer funds and 'targeted' academic grants.


And swallowed by the willfully ignorant.

Raise your paw if you're one.....

Without ecology you'd still be eating the shit and drinking the piss of the people upstream.

 

[PoliticalChic]

we scoffed at and scorned the soviets during the cold war. how did we become them?

Postmodernism: there is no truth, and everything, including facts and morality, is relative.
Thus subverting science to politics.


Of course, that could hardly have been done without the Left's battering of religion and eviscerating education.

 

[daveman]

we scoffed at and scorned the soviets during the cold war. how did we become them?

Progressives want the US to "progress" to the condition of the USSR circa 1958 -- minus the strong military, of course.

 

[daveman]

Without ecology you'd still be eating the shit and drinking the piss of the people upstream.

"Ecology" believes human beings are not a natural part of the environment, and should be removed for the sake of the environment.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

1. The intellectual history of environmentalism reflects an amalgam of congregationalism, pantheism, the religious elements of Native American environmentalism meeting Hegelian philosophy and Rachel Carson. The rising diaspora of activism metastasized throughout the culture, until it was strong enough and pervasive enough to force legislation. The mistake is in believing it is based on science.

1. You're a moron

 

[Mr. Peepers]

There Is No 'Environmental Science.'

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1. The intellectual history of environmentalism reflects an amalgam of congregationalism, pantheism, the religious elements of Native American environmentalism meeting Hegelian philosophy and Rachel Carson. The rising diaspora of activism metastasized throughout the culture, until it was strong enough and pervasive enough to force legislation. The mistake is in believing it is based on science.

Really? Because I volunteered to help scientists in Ecuador's Andean cloud forest study the effects of climate change on this very precarious ecosystem in 2009. We used rain guages, camera traps to study the omnivores, aerial photography + topographical maps of trees (native and new growth - cattle ranching had destroyed half of one of the mountains) dissection of bromeliads, temperature data, grid counts of flora, counts of birds seen and heard. It was all quite scientific. The same expedition is now on its 6th year of collecting data. You are a fucking moron. Please get a job and stop posting on this board all damn day.

 

[konradv]

I'll accept the OP's premise when the IRS gives me my religious exemption, until then !

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. The intellectual history of environmentalism reflects an amalgam of congregationalism, pantheism, the religious elements of Native American environmentalism meeting Hegelian philosophy and Rachel Carson. The rising diaspora of activism metastasized throughout the culture, until it was strong enough and pervasive enough to force legislation. The mistake is in believing it is based on science.




2. Karl Popper is generally regarded as one of the greatest philosophers of science of the 20th century [The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy(Summer 2009 Edition) ]; he watched the rise of Hitler, and the Nazis, and analyzed the conditions that allowed fascism to arise. He realized that all the totalitarian philosophies of the 20th century owe their origin to Hegel.

a. Hegel:“All the worth which the human being possesses - all spiritual reality, he possesses only through the State.” Hegel Quotations and Totalitarianism

b. Hegel managed to combine elements of religion with those of science, so that science took on a kind of religious significance.

3. In science, the straight line goes from Hegel to Ernst Haeckel, the man who coined the word ‘ecology.’

a. One spin-off of the Enlightenment was the desire to find new myths that would transcend daily existence and take one to a higher level of purification. Proto-fascist, and founder of ecology, Ernst Haeckel, invested nature-worship with the belief that all matter was alive and possessed mental attributes. In ‘monism,’ he brought together hostility to Christianity and propaganda for Darwinism, a nature cult and theories of hygiene and selective breeding.
J.W. Burrow, “The Crisis of Reason: European Thought, 1848-1914,” p. 218-19

b. Hegel to Haeckel to Hitler, or Marx and Engels to Soviet science or Nazi science. Both forms are corruptions of science.





4. After Lenin’s death, the effort was to create a proletariat science, based on the view that authority can change nature itself; "The human species, the sluggish Homo sapiens, will once again enter the stage of radical reconstruction and become in his own hands the object of the most complex methods of artificial selection and psychophysical training... Man will make it his goal...to create a higher sociobiological type, a superman, if you will"
New Soviet man - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. In fact, the Soviets, under agriculture minister Trofim Lysenko, fervently believed that they with the proper conditions they could change the genetics of crops, the idea known as ‘the inheritance of acquired characteristics.’ The Soviets actually banned the teaching of Mendelian genetics.
Science and politics

b. All humanities and social sciences were additionally tested for strict accordance with historical materialism. These tests were alleged to serve as a cover for political suppression, to terrorize scientists who engaged in research labeled as "idealistic" or "bourgeois.”
Suppressed research in the Soviet Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





5. Along came radical environmentalism’s Lady GaGa, Rachel Carson. Romanticizing nature, targeting humankind as the grand evil, in a book filled with anecdotal ‘science,’ she stole the hearts of Progressives.

a. Carson’s book was dismissed in ‘Science’ magazine as a “prosecuting attorney’s impassioned plea for action,” not a book based on scientific data. I.L.Baldwin, “Chemicals and Pests,” Science, September 28, 1962, p.1042-1043.





Progressive science? Environmentalism?
Corruptions of science propped up with taxpayer funds and 'targeted' academic grants.


And swallowed by the willfully ignorant.

Raise your paw if you're one.....

Without ecology you'd still be eating the shit and drinking the piss of the people upstream.

The diet to which you refer is the only possible explanation for your mental condition.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. The intellectual history of environmentalism reflects an amalgam of congregationalism, pantheism, the religious elements of Native American environmentalism meeting Hegelian philosophy and Rachel Carson. The rising diaspora of activism metastasized throughout the culture, until it was strong enough and pervasive enough to force legislation. The mistake is in believing it is based on science.




2. Karl Popper is generally regarded as one of the greatest philosophers of science of the 20th century [The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy(Summer 2009 Edition) ]; he watched the rise of Hitler, and the Nazis, and analyzed the conditions that allowed fascism to arise. He realized that all the totalitarian philosophies of the 20th century owe their origin to Hegel.

a. Hegel:“All the worth which the human being possesses - all spiritual reality, he possesses only through the State.” Hegel Quotations and Totalitarianism

b. Hegel managed to combine elements of religion with those of science, so that science took on a kind of religious significance.

3. In science, the straight line goes from Hegel to Ernst Haeckel, the man who coined the word ‘ecology.’

a. One spin-off of the Enlightenment was the desire to find new myths that would transcend daily existence and take one to a higher level of purification. Proto-fascist, and founder of ecology, Ernst Haeckel, invested nature-worship with the belief that all matter was alive and possessed mental attributes. In ‘monism,’ he brought together hostility to Christianity and propaganda for Darwinism, a nature cult and theories of hygiene and selective breeding.
J.W. Burrow, “The Crisis of Reason: European Thought, 1848-1914,” p. 218-19

b. Hegel to Haeckel to Hitler, or Marx and Engels to Soviet science or Nazi science. Both forms are corruptions of science.





4. After Lenin’s death, the effort was to create a proletariat science, based on the view that authority can change nature itself; "The human species, the sluggish Homo sapiens, will once again enter the stage of radical reconstruction and become in his own hands the object of the most complex methods of artificial selection and psychophysical training... Man will make it his goal...to create a higher sociobiological type, a superman, if you will"
New Soviet man - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. In fact, the Soviets, under agriculture minister Trofim Lysenko, fervently believed that they with the proper conditions they could change the genetics of crops, the idea known as ‘the inheritance of acquired characteristics.’ The Soviets actually banned the teaching of Mendelian genetics.
Science and politics

b. All humanities and social sciences were additionally tested for strict accordance with historical materialism. These tests were alleged to serve as a cover for political suppression, to terrorize scientists who engaged in research labeled as "idealistic" or "bourgeois.”
Suppressed research in the Soviet Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





5. Along came radical environmentalism’s Lady GaGa, Rachel Carson. Romanticizing nature, targeting humankind as the grand evil, in a book filled with anecdotal ‘science,’ she stole the hearts of Progressives.

a. Carson’s book was dismissed in ‘Science’ magazine as a “prosecuting attorney’s impassioned plea for action,” not a book based on scientific data. I.L.Baldwin, “Chemicals and Pests,” Science, September 28, 1962, p.1042-1043.





Progressive science? Environmentalism?
Corruptions of science propped up with taxpayer funds and 'targeted' academic grants.


And swallowed by the willfully ignorant.

Raise your paw if you're one.....

Back in the old days, the subject was totally covered in Geology. There was no Earth Science to be taught at a univeristy. I had to take a lot of elective courses. to get through college as a Chemistry major. When stationed in Camp Lejeune, I took courses in Cultural Archaeology and Physical Anthropology. I took every course you can imagine, when it comes to science or anything related to it.

I admit I was chasing the money, because I grew up poor. Now, look at the reality back then. I grew up during a time when the minimum wage was the highest in history. I look back and think I'm fortunate, because these people who live in America today don't have that opportunity.

Is it possible you have some comment related to the OP, or did you merely wonder in to warm up?

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. The intellectual history of environmentalism reflects an amalgam of congregationalism, pantheism, the religious elements of Native American environmentalism meeting Hegelian philosophy and Rachel Carson. The rising diaspora of activism metastasized throughout the culture, until it was strong enough and pervasive enough to force legislation. The mistake is in believing it is based on science.

1. You're a moron

You’ve heard the phrase “how the other half lives…”? I see you as exactly that…the ‘other half’ of posters. My question: how do you derive any satisfaction by posting without any substance? What is it that you believe you bring to the table?

But, your usual insightful, pithy level of comment.

Amazing how frequently those who cannot compete resort to large font, or various colors....
...or emoticons.


Anything to attempt to replace actual thinking.



Now then, having identified you correctly, let me rub it in by reminding that everything in the OP is true and fact.....

...as indicated by your lack of ability to deny any of it.



You fit in an intellectual debate like Mark Furman fit at the Apollo.

 

[PoliticalChic]

There Is No 'Environmental Science.'

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1. The intellectual history of environmentalism reflects an amalgam of congregationalism, pantheism, the religious elements of Native American environmentalism meeting Hegelian philosophy and Rachel Carson. The rising diaspora of activism metastasized throughout the culture, until it was strong enough and pervasive enough to force legislation. The mistake is in believing it is based on science.

Really? Because I volunteered to help scientists in Ecuador's Andean cloud forest study the effects of climate change on this very precarious ecosystem in 2009. We used rain guages, camera traps to study the omnivores, aerial photography + topographical maps of trees (native and new growth - cattle ranching had destroyed half of one of the mountains) dissection of bromeliads, temperature data, grid counts of flora, counts of birds seen and heard. It was all quite scientific. The same expedition is now on its 6th year of collecting data. You are a fucking moron. Please get a job and stop posting on this board all damn day.

Well, at least it kept you from hanging out on the street corners.


What made you think your recitation of your hobby had anything to do with the OP?


You, being fooled, hardly seems anything new.



Now....if you'd like to refer to the OP.....don't hesitate....

 

[Mr. Peepers]

Amazing how frequently those who cannot compete resort to large font, or various colors....
...or emoticons.

You regurgitate quotes by right wing nutjobs' blogs. Nary an original thought in your posts. How is that any different?

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'll accept the OP's premise when the IRS gives me my religious exemption, until then !

OMG!


The other half of the Lenny-Squiggy axis chimes in!!!


Here...it applies to you, too:

You’ve heard the phrase “how the other half lives…”? I see you as exactly that…the ‘other half’ of posters. My question: how do you derive any satisfaction by posting without any substance? What is it that you believe you bring to the table?

But, your usual insightful, pithy level of comment.

Amazing how frequently those who cannot compete resort to large font, or various colors....
...or emoticons.


Anything to attempt to replace actual thinking.



Now then, having identified you correctly, let me rub it in by reminding that everything in the OP is true and fact.....

...as indicated by your lack of ability to deny any of it.



You fit in an intellectual debate like Mark Furman fit at the Apollo.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

Well, at least it kept you from hanging out on the street corners.


What made you think your recitation of your hobby had anything to do with the OP?


You, being fooled, hardly seems anything new.



Now....if you'd like to refer to the OP.....don't hesitate....

Hobby? Don't you want to know what is happening to our world because of our wanton greed, wastefulness and apathy? Of course you don't... you're a corporate stooge. Well, I do, as do most sane people.

How did I not refer to the OP? You said "There is no environmental science". I proved you wrong yet again by giving an example of a scientific expedition I went on that absolutely was ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE. You really should read real science books if you've got this much time on your hands.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Amazing how frequently those who cannot compete resort to large font, or various colors....
...or emoticons.

You regurgitate quotes by right wing nutjobs' blogs. Nary an original thought in your posts. How is that any different?

Judging by your outrage, it was all original to you!

But you still haven't disputed a single thing in the OP...
...contrary to what you 'learned' in government schools, referring to ' right wing nutjobs' blogs' doesn't counter any of the OP.


But....you have encouraged me to write another one tomorrow.

I hope you'll do a better job than you've done today.
Otherwise.....there's really no hope for you.

Your prize for today's efforts… tickets for the first row at a Gallagher concert. Wear your raincoat.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

NOTHING IN YOUR OP IS TRUTH OR FACT. God dammit, you righties will do ANYTHING to discount common sense when it comes to environmentalism and science. You don't even need to read a book. Just look around you. Look at that floating garbage island in the ocean.
Huge Garbage Patch Found in Atlantic Too

Or how about the fertilizer run-off dead zone in the gulf:
The Gulf's Growing 'Dead Zone' - TIME

And how about Monsanto's proud part in their evil hearts in the bee die off (we really need bees):
Honeybee Deaths Linked to Corn Insecticides - ABC News

All of the examples above are very real and very MAN MADE.

Oh, and this past year? Our hottest year ever. But by all means, deny deny deny. I wish we could rocket all of you that think this way off to a different planet so that you can mess that one up to your heart's desire, not caring that one day, it will become unlivable. I just don't get it.