New laws proposed to deal with drive by shootings.....

[2aguy]

Yep.....apparently, new laws are needed to deal with drive by shootings in Australia......they are tired of having to prove which thug in the car actually pulled the trigger, and now want to be able to charge everyone in the vehicle with the shooting crime.....

But....I thought Australia had gun control laws that made it impossible to have drive by shootings.....right?

No need to prove who pulled trigger in Victoria's proposed drive-by shooting laws

New legislation to combat drive-by shootings will be introduced to the Victorian Parliament allowing police to charge all occupants of a vehicle involved in a shooting, rather than having to prove who pulled the trigger.

Key points:

• Under proposed laws, sentences will be increased for recklessly shooting at buildings or vehicles
• Police will no longer have to prove intent to cause harm or injury
• All occupants of car can be charged with criminal activity

Under the proposed legislation, sentences will also be increased for recklessly shooting at a building or vehicle.

Police will no longer have to prove the offender intended to cause harm or injury.

 

[Fenton Lum]

If they had less gun laws they could enjoy the drive by free lifestyle we have in america.

 

[2aguy]

If they had less gun laws they could enjoy the drive by free lifestyle we have in america.

We have drive by shootings here because democrats refuse to throw repeat gun offenders in prison....they need them in demcorat voting districts to keep minorities voting for democrats......they can blame the violence on Republicans and roll the poor into voting booths....

 

[Fenton Lum]

If they had less gun laws they could enjoy the drive by free lifestyle we have in america.

We have drive by shootings here because democrats refuse to throw repeat gun offenders in prison....they need them in demcorat voting districts to keep minorities voting for democrats......they can blame the violence on Republicans and roll the poor into voting booths....

Ah yes, of course, it's all the other party.

 

[2aguy]

If they had less gun laws they could enjoy the drive by free lifestyle we have in america.

We have drive by shootings here because democrats refuse to throw repeat gun offenders in prison....they need them in demcorat voting districts to keep minorities voting for democrats......they can blame the violence on Republicans and roll the poor into voting booths....

Ah yes, of course, it's all the other party.

Yep.....the democrats refuse to put actual criminals in jail for long periods of time...from domestic criminals to foreign criminals, they have an insane inability to lock up violent criminals....

 

[Fenton Lum]

If they had less gun laws they could enjoy the drive by free lifestyle we have in america.

We have drive by shootings here because democrats refuse to throw repeat gun offenders in prison....they need them in demcorat voting districts to keep minorities voting for democrats......they can blame the violence on Republicans and roll the poor into voting booths....

Ah yes, of course, it's all the other party.

Yep.....the democrats refuse to put actual criminals in jail for long periods of time...from domestic criminals to foreign criminals, they have an insane inability to lock up violent criminals....

Everything should be just fine and dandy any minute now then. Relax.

 

[Dragonlady]

If they had less gun laws they could enjoy the drive by free lifestyle we have in america.

We have drive by shootings here because democrats refuse to throw repeat gun offenders in prison....they need them in demcorat voting districts to keep minorities voting for democrats......they can blame the violence on Republicans and roll the poor into voting booths....

Ah yes, of course, it's all the other party.

Yep.....the democrats refuse to put actual criminals in jail for long periods of time...from domestic criminals to foreign criminals, they have an insane inability to lock up violent criminals....

The US has the highest rate of incarceration in the free world. You already have more people in federal prison than the rest of the first world combined.

How many more people are you going to lock up?

 

[Fenton Lum]

If they had less gun laws they could enjoy the drive by free lifestyle we have in america.

We have drive by shootings here because democrats refuse to throw repeat gun offenders in prison....they need them in demcorat voting districts to keep minorities voting for democrats......they can blame the violence on Republicans and roll the poor into voting booths....

Ah yes, of course, it's all the other party.

Yep.....the democrats refuse to put actual criminals in jail for long periods of time...from domestic criminals to foreign criminals, they have an insane inability to lock up violent criminals....

The US has the highest rate of incarceration in the free world. You already have more people in federal prison than the rest of the first world combined.

How many more people are you going to lock up?

Until the only folks left out in society are the ones who all agree with each other.

 

[2aguy]

If they had less gun laws they could enjoy the drive by free lifestyle we have in america.

We have drive by shootings here because democrats refuse to throw repeat gun offenders in prison....they need them in demcorat voting districts to keep minorities voting for democrats......they can blame the violence on Republicans and roll the poor into voting booths....

Ah yes, of course, it's all the other party.

Yep.....the democrats refuse to put actual criminals in jail for long periods of time...from domestic criminals to foreign criminals, they have an insane inability to lock up violent criminals....

The US has the highest rate of incarceration in the free world. You already have more people in federal prison than the rest of the first world combined.

How many more people are you going to lock up?

How about the repeat gun offenders...the ones who get out of jail in less than 3 years for repeated gun felonies....you know, convicted felons caught with illegal guns, the actual people shooting other people. If we actually locked them up for 30 years, they wouldn't be shooting people in democrat controlled voting districts.....

And what do you recommend for violent, repeat, gun offenders? Do you think they should be walking around free? Is that the essence of your post?

 

[Fenton Lum]

If they had less gun laws they could enjoy the drive by free lifestyle we have in america.

We have drive by shootings here because democrats refuse to throw repeat gun offenders in prison....they need them in demcorat voting districts to keep minorities voting for democrats......they can blame the violence on Republicans and roll the poor into voting booths....

Ah yes, of course, it's all the other party.

Yep.....the democrats refuse to put actual criminals in jail for long periods of time...from domestic criminals to foreign criminals, they have an insane inability to lock up violent criminals....

The US has the highest rate of incarceration in the free world. You already have more people in federal prison than the rest of the first world combined.

How many more people are you going to lock up?

How about the repeat gun offenders...the ones who get out of jail in less than 3 years for repeated gun felonies....you know, convicted felons caught with illegal guns, the actual people shooting other people. If we actually locked them up for 30 years, they wouldn't be shooting people in democrat controlled voting districts.....

And what do you recommend for violent, repeat, gun offenders? Do you think they should be walking around free? Is that the essence of your post?

Your for profit prison growth industry thanks you. Our exceptional nation has no answers for anthing but more bondage.

 

[2aguy]

We have drive by shootings here because democrats refuse to throw repeat gun offenders in prison....they need them in demcorat voting districts to keep minorities voting for democrats......they can blame the violence on Republicans and roll the poor into voting booths....

Ah yes, of course, it's all the other party.

Yep.....the democrats refuse to put actual criminals in jail for long periods of time...from domestic criminals to foreign criminals, they have an insane inability to lock up violent criminals....

The US has the highest rate of incarceration in the free world. You already have more people in federal prison than the rest of the first world combined.

How many more people are you going to lock up?

How about the repeat gun offenders...the ones who get out of jail in less than 3 years for repeated gun felonies....you know, convicted felons caught with illegal guns, the actual people shooting other people. If we actually locked them up for 30 years, they wouldn't be shooting people in democrat controlled voting districts.....

And what do you recommend for violent, repeat, gun offenders? Do you think they should be walking around free? Is that the essence of your post?

Your for profit prison growth industry thanks you. Our exceptional nation has no answers for anthing but more bondage.

Do you know who makes the most from prisons.....Prison Guard Unions, twit.

So....genius.....tell us what you want to do with violent, repeat gun offenders...please...fucking enlighten us with your wisdom....

 

[TheOldSchool]

Yep.....apparently, new laws are needed to deal with drive by shootings in Australia......they are tired of having to prove which thug in the car actually pulled the trigger, and now want to be able to charge everyone in the vehicle with the shooting crime.....

But....I thought Australia had gun control laws that made it impossible to have drive by shootings.....right?

No need to prove who pulled trigger in Victoria's proposed drive-by shooting laws

New legislation to combat drive-by shootings will be introduced to the Victorian Parliament allowing police to charge all occupants of a vehicle involved in a shooting, rather than having to prove who pulled the trigger.

Key points:

• Under proposed laws, sentences will be increased for recklessly shooting at buildings or vehicles
• Police will no longer have to prove intent to cause harm or injury
• All occupants of car can be charged with criminal activity

Under the proposed legislation, sentences will also be increased for recklessly shooting at a building or vehicle.

Police will no longer have to prove the offender intended to cause harm or injury.

Makes sense now that gun levels are back to where they were before the ban.

 

[2aguy]

Yep.....apparently, new laws are needed to deal with drive by shootings in Australia......they are tired of having to prove which thug in the car actually pulled the trigger, and now want to be able to charge everyone in the vehicle with the shooting crime.....

But....I thought Australia had gun control laws that made it impossible to have drive by shootings.....right?

No need to prove who pulled trigger in Victoria's proposed drive-by shooting laws

New legislation to combat drive-by shootings will be introduced to the Victorian Parliament allowing police to charge all occupants of a vehicle involved in a shooting, rather than having to prove who pulled the trigger.

Key points:

• Under proposed laws, sentences will be increased for recklessly shooting at buildings or vehicles
• Police will no longer have to prove intent to cause harm or injury
• All occupants of car can be charged with criminal activity

Under the proposed legislation, sentences will also be increased for recklessly shooting at a building or vehicle.

Police will no longer have to prove the offender intended to cause harm or injury.

Makes sense now that gun levels are back to where they were before the ban.

They can't be back to where they were before the ban...because they have gun control...right? Normal, law abiding people can't own those guns anymore...because Australia banned and confiscated them....so normal people, as usual....are not the ones doing the shooting..since they obey the laws....

What is happening....criminals, especially immigrant drug gangs, are bringing in the guns they want and need......ignoring all those wonderful gun bans and laws the Australians created.

But...the gun ban and confiscation does actually work....law abiding people don't have those guns.....on the other hand, the criminals still have them....

 

[TheOldSchool]

They can't be back to where they were before the ban...because they have gun control...right? Normal, law abiding people can't own those guns anymore...

Wrong, dummy. As usual. Normal, law abiding people can get a gun any time. More guns = more opportunity for gun crime.

 

[MikeK]

[...]

But....I thought Australia had gun control laws that made it impossible to have drive by shootings.....right?

[...]

Didn't the Australian government confiscate and destroy millions of guns about ten years ago?

 

[TheOldSchool]

[...]

But....I thought Australia had gun control laws that made it impossible to have drive by shootings.....right?

[...]

Didn't the Australian government confiscate and destroy millions of guns about ten years ago?

Yes but gun levels are back to where they were then and it looks like so are the problems.

 

[westwall]

If they had less gun laws they could enjoy the drive by free lifestyle we have in america.

That is true. The only place where gun crime is truly horrible is in those places where criminals are allowed to run amok. Where the citizenry is denied the use of firearms for their defense, and where it is nearly impossible for any but the wealthy and the politically connected to get concealed weapons permits. Yeppers, you progressives are good about making sure that only the criminals and your friends are armed, but the peons, they are merely prey for you and yours.

 

[westwall]

[...]

But....I thought Australia had gun control laws that made it impossible to have drive by shootings.....right?

[...]

Didn't the Australian government confiscate and destroy millions of guns about ten years ago?

Yes but gun levels are back to where they were then and it looks like so are the problems.

Whhhaaaaa? They banned guns and destroyed them but the BAD GUYS got more? WHAT THE FUCK MAN! You all said that "all we have to do is ban guns and the mean bad people won't use them any more".... looks like you were as stupid as we claimed you are.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Ah yes, of course, it's all the other party.

Yep.....the democrats refuse to put actual criminals in jail for long periods of time...from domestic criminals to foreign criminals, they have an insane inability to lock up violent criminals....

The US has the highest rate of incarceration in the free world. You already have more people in federal prison than the rest of the first world combined.

How many more people are you going to lock up?

How about the repeat gun offenders...the ones who get out of jail in less than 3 years for repeated gun felonies....you know, convicted felons caught with illegal guns, the actual people shooting other people. If we actually locked them up for 30 years, they wouldn't be shooting people in democrat controlled voting districts.....

And what do you recommend for violent, repeat, gun offenders? Do you think they should be walking around free? Is that the essence of your post?

Your for profit prison growth industry thanks you. Our exceptional nation has no answers for anthing but more bondage.

Do you know who makes the most from prisons.....Prison Guard Unions, twit.

So....genius.....tell us what you want to do with violent, repeat gun offenders...please...fucking enlighten us with your wisdom....

Really, the unions, that's so leftist.

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[Fenton Lum]

If they had less gun laws they could enjoy the drive by free lifestyle we have in america.

That is true. The only place where gun crime is truly horrible is in those places where criminals are allowed to run amok. Where the citizenry is denied to use of firearms for their defense, and where it is nearly impossible for any but the wealthy and the politically connected to get concealed weapons permits. Yeppers, you progressives are good about making sure that only the criminals and your friends are armed, but the peons, they are merely prey for you and yours.

More guns, more guns I say!