Netanyahu A 'Chickenshit': The Crisis in U.S.-Israel Relations Is Officially Here

Just think if Netanyahu's Administration said things like this about our President. This is an ugly debacle. The President should apologize to Netanyahu immediately.

They couldn't say anything worse than the right is saying all the time. When the story is from an anonymous it seems it should just be ignored by all parties.

Different issue. It would not be received well if Netanyahu's Administration said this about our President. It's very ugly and amateurish.

If we knew who said it I would agree that person should apologize. But if an anonymous message came out of Israel I really don't think I'd care. Seems silly to blow it up like a big deal.

It's all on him. He's the Boss. He should apologize to Netanyahu immediately. And it is a somewhat a big deal. Obama has poisoned the well as far as the relationship goes. There will be no Peace Talks as long as he's the American President.

No peace talks? Why can't Netanyahu do something if he is such a great leader?

Should we cut off all aid if there are no peace talks?
If we cared about international law, we would cut off all aid until Israel removes its civilians from the occupied territories:
"According to the International Law Commission (ILC), the official UN body that codifies customary international law, 'A State which aids or assists another State in the commission of an internationally wrongful act by the latter is internationally responsible for doing so if: (a) that State does so with knowledge of the circumstances of the internationally wrongful act; and (b) the act would be internationally wrongful if committed by that State” (Article 16 of the International Law Commission, 'Articles on Responsibility of States for Internationally Wrongful Acts,' (2001) which were commended by the General Assembly, A/RES/56/83)."
Obviously, there's more money to be made "selling" weapons to Israel that are paid for by US taxpayers.
US military aid to Israel violates domestic international law The Electronic Intifada
 
Bibi has sabotaged any possibility of a two sate solution w/ his settlements.
Why the fuck would he want one? You don't give property or concessions to a bunch of worthless assholes that want to kill off your entire race.

Two state solution, how fucking stupid do you have to be to even think that's a solution to Israel's problems with the very assholes you want to have a state of their own and their only common goal is the destruction of the Israeli people and their country?

Israel is squatting on stolen land. Arabs were there first.

Dr. Ghada Karmi’s latest book Married to Another Man: Israel’s Dilemma in Palestine opens with the problem European Zionists faced over a century ago when they first mooted the idea of a Jewish state in Palestine. They found then that there was already a well-established Palestinian society existing in the land they wished to claim as their own. Hence the message sent back to Vienna by the two rabbis who made the discovery: “The bride is beautiful, but she is married to another man.”

It is the essence of “Israel’s dilemma”: how to effect the disappearance of the ever-present Palestinians so that a purely Jewish state can exist on Palestinian land? The Zionist program of ethnic cleansing that has been going on since Israel’s creation has not solved the problem. Neither has the living hell of occupation.

More: “The bride is beautiful, but she is married to another man.”

Arabs were there first?

Have you read a history book in your life? Ever heard of the massacre of Hebron Jews,before the Arab took over the land, after slaughtering the people of the place?

The riots of 1936-1939 ring a bell? How many Jews were misplaced by Arabs before the 1948 war was even an issue?

The "Palestinian society" is general was of Jews and Arabs combined before the war, smartass. Learn some true history, not hoaxing books.
When political Zionism began in Europe a century ago, there were ten times as many Arabs as Jews living in Palestine.
When Israel lurched into existence 66 years ago, there were twice as many Arabs as Jews living in Palestine.
Today there are equal numbers of Jews and Arabs living between the River and the sea.
No hoax required.
 
I was just reading that Kerry was disavowing these vulgar statements.

Whether one likes Israel or hates them; whether one likes Netanyahu or hates him; there is absolutely no debate that by these senior officials to talk on the record to Goldberg have torpedoed relations between the two countries.

Other countries have taken note. Obviously diplomacy from the punks at the Chicago on the Potomac is not their strong suit.
Other countries have also noted Israel's unfortunate policy of filling the occupied territories with illegal squatters and then arresting (or worse) all Arabs who object to having their land and water stolen.

With all due respect George any actions that we might regard as over the line taken by Israel is not the issue.

It's the petulant verbal diarrhea that spills from the mouths of Obama's not ready for prime time players in his administration.

It's a total lack of diplomacy to have spoken on the record with Goldberg to back door insult the President of America's only trustworthy ally in the ME. Obama knocked out Mubarak and frankly I'm not a fan of Qatar being Obama's new buddy.

We are talking diplomacy or lack thereof.

Hell's bells. It was just a few weeks ago Obama hosted a magnificent party for the thugs, murderers and dictators of Africa at the White House.

I'm not happy with bullshit like this but hey it's part of diplomacy.

AND just think of all the names every American administration could be called over the decades for all the blood every President has had on his hands. We've spilled a lot of blood world wide.

But any sane adult nation engages in diplomacy and leaves the effigy burning to the masses.

I can't believe these idiots in high places fucking up like this. It's a biggie.
 
I was just reading that Kerry was disavowing these vulgar statements.

Whether one likes Israel or hates them; whether one likes Netanyahu or hates him; there is absolutely no debate that by these senior officials to talk on the record to Goldberg have torpedoed relations between the two countries.

Other countries have taken note. Obviously diplomacy from the punks at the Chicago on the Potomac is not their strong suit.
Other countries have also noted Israel's unfortunate policy of filling the occupied territories with illegal squatters and then arresting (or worse) all Arabs who object to having their land and water stolen.

With all due respect George any actions that we might regard as over the line taken by Israel is not the issue.

It's the petulant verbal diarrhea that spills from the mouths of Obama's not ready for prime time players in his administration.

It's a total lack of diplomacy to have spoken on the record with Goldberg to back door insult the President of America's only trustworthy ally in the ME. Obama knocked out Mubarak and frankly I'm not a fan of Qatar being Obama's new buddy.

We are talking diplomacy or lack thereof.

Hell's bells. It was just a few weeks ago Obama hosted a magnificent party for the thugs, murderers and dictators of Africa at the White House.

I'm not happy with bullshit like this but hey it's part of diplomacy.

AND just think of all the names every American administration could be called over the decades for all the blood every President has had on his hands. We've spilled a lot of blood world wide.

But any sane adult nation engages in diplomacy and leaves the effigy burning to the masses.

I can't believe these idiots in high places fucking up like this. It's a biggie.
We're on the same page as far as Obama's punks and lightweights are concerned. But I would disagree about Israel's treatment of Palestinians. I believe there will be no peace between the River and the sea until Jews recognize Arabs as being equally entitled to the same peace and independence Jews demand. I'm more inclined to view this recent "chicken-shit tempest" as a premeditated distraction designed to divide and conquer progressive resistance to Obama's Long War policies from Palestine to Persia.
 
Liberals are like the Nazis, they hate the Jews....
"Why does the Left hate Israel so much? Why is anti-Semitism rising across Europe? Why are the Jews so hated?

"There are a number of answers to this question. For one thing, the Jews represent a European-type peoples who 'invaded the 'peaceful' Islamic culture of Palestine, in the ignorant view of the Left.

"They represent a new type of Crusader class, only instead of bringing Christianity they are bringing a kind of Judeo-Western commercial culture that liberals believe is at the root of all Western evil."
Now you know why:alirulz:

Why the Liberals Hate Israel
 
Let's see, who's the 'Chickenshit?' The inept pussy Communist Organizer, or the brave Special Forces Israeli national hero?

Uh yeah, go with Netanyahu.
 
Just think if Netanyahu's Administration said things like this about our President. This is an ugly debacle. The President should apologize to Netanyahu immediately.

They couldn't say anything worse than the right is saying all the time. When the story is from an anonymous it seems it should just be ignored by all parties.

Different issue. It would not be received well if Netanyahu's Administration said this about our President. It's very ugly and amateurish.

If we knew who said it I would agree that person should apologize. But if an anonymous message came out of Israel I really don't think I'd care. Seems silly to blow it up like a big deal.

It's all on him. He's the Boss. He should apologize to Netanyahu immediately. And it is a somewhat a big deal. Obama has poisoned the well as far as the relationship goes. There will be no Peace Talks as long as he's the American President.

No peace talks? Why can't Netanyahu do something if he is such a great leader?

Should we cut off all aid if there are no peace talks?

Your President's a dipshit. He's poisoned the well. That being said, the whole Foreign Aid issue does need to be reexamined. We can probably agree on that one.
 
Liberals are like the Nazis, they hate the Jews....
"Why does the Left hate Israel so much? Why is anti-Semitism rising across Europe? Why are the Jews so hated?

"There are a number of answers to this question. For one thing, the Jews represent a European-type peoples who 'invaded the 'peaceful' Islamic culture of Palestine, in the ignorant view of the Left.

"They represent a new type of Crusader class, only instead of bringing Christianity they are bringing a kind of Judeo-Western commercial culture that liberals believe is at the root of all Western evil."
Now you know why:alirulz:

Why the Liberals Hate Israel


I do not hate Jews I hate Zionism.

From my standpoint for the zionists to invade Palestine determined to disappear the Palestinian Arabs by any means necessary is no different that Hitler's Final Solution to the Jewish Problem.

.Genocide is genocide.

.

.
 
In fairness, Left Wing nutters also hate Christians. Christians are probably their most despised Boogeyman. But for some strange reason, they do always seem to embrace Islam. They don't express nearly as much hate for Islam, as they do Christianity and Judaism. It's pretty bizarre. But hey, Communists/Progressives are pretty warped people, no?
 
Liberals are like the Nazis, they hate the Jews....
"Why does the Left hate Israel so much? Why is anti-Semitism rising across Europe? Why are the Jews so hated?

"There are a number of answers to this question. For one thing, the Jews represent a European-type peoples who 'invaded the 'peaceful' Islamic culture of Palestine, in the ignorant view of the Left.

"They represent a new type of Crusader class, only instead of bringing Christianity they are bringing a kind of Judeo-Western commercial culture that liberals believe is at the root of all Western evil."
Now you know why:alirulz:

Why the Liberals Hate Israel


I do not hate Jews I hate Zionism.

Liberals are like the Nazis, they hate the Jews....
"Why does the Left hate Israel so much? Why is anti-Semitism rising across Europe? Why are the Jews so hated?

"There are a number of answers to this question. For one thing, the Jews represent a European-type peoples who 'invaded the 'peaceful' Islamic culture of Palestine, in the ignorant view of the Left.

"They represent a new type of Crusader class, only instead of bringing Christianity they are bringing a kind of Judeo-Western commercial culture that liberals believe is at the root of all Western evil."
Now you know why:alirulz:

Why the Liberals Hate Israel


I do not hate Jews I hate Zionism.

From my standpoint for the zionists to invade Palestine determined to disappear the Palestinian Arabs by any means necessary is no different that Hitler's Final Solution to the Jewish Problem.

.Genocide is genocide.

.

.

.Genocide is genocide.

.

.
When Zionism began a hundred years ago in Europe, there were ten times as many Arabs as Jews living in Palestine, and there was none of the systematic violence we see there today.

When Israel was born 66 years ago, there were twice as many Arab as Jews living between the River and the sea.

Today there are roughly equal numbers of Jews and Arabs living in historical Palestine, and it has become apparent many Jews believe that is still too many Arabs for a successful Jewish state.

Boycott. Divestment, Sanctions...:ack-1:
 
In fairness, Left Wing nutters also hate Christians. Christians are probably their most despised Boogeyman. But for some strange reason, they do always seem to embrace Islam. They don't express nearly as much hate for Islam, as they do Christianity and Judaism. It's pretty bizarre. But hey, Communists/Progressives are pretty warped people, no?
Speaking as a "left wing nutter" and not as a "communist" (which I am not), I think it's fair to say criticizing the treatment of Muslims by Jews and Christians (and Capitalists) doesn't mean I embrace Islam but rather I condemn ethnic cleansing and genocide being employed in my name for the purpose of controlling resources in Jerusalem, for example.
A Third Intifada on the Horizon
 
In fairness, Left Wing nutters also hate Christians. Christians are probably their most despised Boogeyman. But for some strange reason, they do always seem to embrace Islam. They don't express nearly as much hate for Islam, as they do Christianity and Judaism. It's pretty bizarre. But hey, Communists/Progressives are pretty warped people, no?
Speaking as a "left wing nutter" and not as a "communist" (which I am not), I think it's fair to say criticizing the treatment of Muslims by Jews and Christians (and Capitalists) doesn't mean I embrace Islam but rather I condemn ethnic cleansing and genocide being employed in my name for the purpose of controlling resources in Jerusalem, for example.
A Third Intifada on the Horizon

Fair enough. Just pointing out that Left Wing nutters do express much more hate for Christians and Jews than they do Muslims. But obviously Christians are their most despised Boogeyman.
 
Liberals are liberals first then whatever other group they belong to next.

Liberal Jews will vote against their own good over white guilt.

Many Jews have been duped by the social view of liberalism like "community" where everyone is responsible for taking care of each other. The individual in the Jewish community is not pushed in their culture, a collective mentality rules thus socialism is an easy sell to them.

With all this in mind, You have to love the irony of the fact that 78% of the Jewish Vote went to Obama in 2008 and
69% of the Jewish Vote went to Obama in 2012!!! Anyone want to try to explain that one?
Other than poetic justice :)
Jewish Voting Record in U.S. Presidential Elections Jewish Virtual Library
 
Liberals are liberals first then whatever other group they belong to next.

Liberal Jews will vote against their own good over white guilt.

Many Jews have been duped by the social view of liberalism like "community" where everyone is responsible for taking care of each other. The individual in the Jewish community is not pushed in their culture, a collective mentality rules thus socialism is an easy sell to them.

With all this in mind, You have to love the irony of the fact that 78% of the Jewish Vote went to Obama in 2008 and
69% of the Jewish Vote went to Obama in 2012!!! Anyone want to try to explain that one?
Other than poetic justice :)
Jewish Voting Record in U.S. Presidential Elections Jewish Virtual Library

Yes, it's fair to say that American Jews who still vote Democrat, are Uncle Toms. They're selling their People out.
 
In fairness, Left Wing nutters also hate Christians. Christians are probably their most despised Boogeyman. But for some strange reason, they do always seem to embrace Islam. They don't express nearly as much hate for Islam, as they do Christianity and Judaism. It's pretty bizarre. But hey, Communists/Progressives are pretty warped people, no?
Speaking as a "left wing nutter" and not as a "communist" (which I am not), I think it's fair to say criticizing the treatment of Muslims by Jews and Christians (and Capitalists) doesn't mean I embrace Islam but rather I condemn ethnic cleansing and genocide being employed in my name for the purpose of controlling resources in Jerusalem, for example.
A Third Intifada on the Horizon

In fairness, Left Wing nutters also hate Christians. Christians are probably their most despised Boogeyman. But for some strange reason, they do always seem to embrace Islam. They don't express nearly as much hate for Islam, as they do Christianity and Judaism. It's pretty bizarre. But hey, Communists/Progressives are pretty warped people, no?
Speaking as a "left wing nutter" and not as a "communist" (which I am not), I think it's fair to say criticizing the treatment of Muslims by Jews and Christians (and Capitalists) doesn't mean I embrace Islam but rather I condemn ethnic cleansing and genocide being employed in my name for the purpose of controlling resources in Jerusalem, for example.
A Third Intifada on the Horizon

Fair enough. Just pointing out that Left Wing nutters do express much more hate for Christians and Jews than they do Muslims. But obviously Christians are their most despised Boogeyman.
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Some Christians and Jews are doing everything they can think of the bury the "two-state" solution in Jerusalem, as we speak.
"Last week, a Palestinian man drove his car into passengers getting off the light rail in East Jerusalem, killing a baby Israeli girl and a 22-year-old tourist from Ecuador.

"Days later, a 14-year-old Palestinian, who was a dual citizen in the United States, was shot dead by the IDF forces, who claimed the boy was about to toss a firebomb.

"The U.S. Department [of State] has called for an investigation."

"Meanwhile, plans continue to move forward for the construction of about 1,000 new housing units in Jewish neighborhoods located in occupied East Jerusalem.

"And Defensive Minister Moshe Ya'alon also has issued a directive banning Palestinians from riding Israeli-run buses in the West Bank. Israeli human rights organization B'Tselem is describing the directive as a, quote, 'thinly veiled pandering to the demand for racial segregation on buses.'"
The violence that flared last summer in Gush Etzion and Gaza shows signs of blowing up in Jerusalem this winter.

Who will you blame?

A Third Intifada on the Horizon
 
In fairness, Left Wing nutters also hate Christians. Christians are probably their most despised Boogeyman. But for some strange reason, they do always seem to embrace Islam. They don't express nearly as much hate for Islam, as they do Christianity and Judaism. It's pretty bizarre. But hey, Communists/Progressives are pretty warped people, no?
Speaking as a "left wing nutter" and not as a "communist" (which I am not), I think it's fair to say criticizing the treatment of Muslims by Jews and Christians (and Capitalists) doesn't mean I embrace Islam but rather I condemn ethnic cleansing and genocide being employed in my name for the purpose of controlling resources in Jerusalem, for example.
A Third Intifada on the Horizon

In fairness, Left Wing nutters also hate Christians. Christians are probably their most despised Boogeyman. But for some strange reason, they do always seem to embrace Islam. They don't express nearly as much hate for Islam, as they do Christianity and Judaism. It's pretty bizarre. But hey, Communists/Progressives are pretty warped people, no?
Speaking as a "left wing nutter" and not as a "communist" (which I am not), I think it's fair to say criticizing the treatment of Muslims by Jews and Christians (and Capitalists) doesn't mean I embrace Islam but rather I condemn ethnic cleansing and genocide being employed in my name for the purpose of controlling resources in Jerusalem, for example.
A Third Intifada on the Horizon

Fair enough. Just pointing out that Left Wing nutters do express much more hate for Christians and Jews than they do Muslims. But obviously Christians are their most despised Boogeyman.
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Some Christians and Jews are doing everything they can think of the bury the "two-state" solution in Jerusalem, as we speak.
"Last week, a Palestinian man drove his car into passengers getting off the light rail in East Jerusalem, killing a baby Israeli girl and a 22-year-old tourist from Ecuador.

"Days later, a 14-year-old Palestinian, who was a dual citizen in the United States, was shot dead by the IDF forces, who claimed the boy was about to toss a firebomb.

"The U.S. Department [of State] has called for an investigation."

"Meanwhile, plans continue to move forward for the construction of about 1,000 new housing units in Jewish neighborhoods located in occupied East Jerusalem.

"And Defensive Minister Moshe Ya'alon also has issued a directive banning Palestinians from riding Israeli-run buses in the West Bank. Israeli human rights organization B'Tselem is describing the directive as a, quote, 'thinly veiled pandering to the demand for racial segregation on buses.'"
The violence that flared last summer in Gush Etzion and Gaza shows signs of blowing up in Jerusalem this winter.

Who will you blame?

A Third Intifada on the Horizon

So you absolutely believe that the Palestinians MUST recognize Israel's right to exist before any peace can be had, correct?
 
In fairness, Left Wing nutters also hate Christians. Christians are probably their most despised Boogeyman. But for some strange reason, they do always seem to embrace Islam. They don't express nearly as much hate for Islam, as they do Christianity and Judaism. It's pretty bizarre. But hey, Communists/Progressives are pretty warped people, no?
Speaking as a "left wing nutter" and not as a "communist" (which I am not), I think it's fair to say criticizing the treatment of Muslims by Jews and Christians (and Capitalists) doesn't mean I embrace Islam but rather I condemn ethnic cleansing and genocide being employed in my name for the purpose of controlling resources in Jerusalem, for example.
A Third Intifada on the Horizon

In fairness, Left Wing nutters also hate Christians. Christians are probably their most despised Boogeyman. But for some strange reason, they do always seem to embrace Islam. They don't express nearly as much hate for Islam, as they do Christianity and Judaism. It's pretty bizarre. But hey, Communists/Progressives are pretty warped people, no?
Speaking as a "left wing nutter" and not as a "communist" (which I am not), I think it's fair to say criticizing the treatment of Muslims by Jews and Christians (and Capitalists) doesn't mean I embrace Islam but rather I condemn ethnic cleansing and genocide being employed in my name for the purpose of controlling resources in Jerusalem, for example.
A Third Intifada on the Horizon

Fair enough. Just pointing out that Left Wing nutters do express much more hate for Christians and Jews than they do Muslims. But obviously Christians are their most despised Boogeyman.
.
Some Christians and Jews are doing everything they can think of the bury the "two-state" solution in Jerusalem, as we speak.
"Last week, a Palestinian man drove his car into passengers getting off the light rail in East Jerusalem, killing a baby Israeli girl and a 22-year-old tourist from Ecuador.

"Days later, a 14-year-old Palestinian, who was a dual citizen in the United States, was shot dead by the IDF forces, who claimed the boy was about to toss a firebomb.

"The U.S. Department [of State] has called for an investigation."

"Meanwhile, plans continue to move forward for the construction of about 1,000 new housing units in Jewish neighborhoods located in occupied East Jerusalem.

"And Defensive Minister Moshe Ya'alon also has issued a directive banning Palestinians from riding Israeli-run buses in the West Bank. Israeli human rights organization B'Tselem is describing the directive as a, quote, 'thinly veiled pandering to the demand for racial segregation on buses.'"
The violence that flared last summer in Gush Etzion and Gaza shows signs of blowing up in Jerusalem this winter.

Who will you blame?

A Third Intifada on the Horizon

In fairness, Left Wing nutters also hate Christians. Christians are probably their most despised Boogeyman. But for some strange reason, they do always seem to embrace Islam. They don't express nearly as much hate for Islam, as they do Christianity and Judaism. It's pretty bizarre. But hey, Communists/Progressives are pretty warped people, no?
Speaking as a "left wing nutter" and not as a "communist" (which I am not), I think it's fair to say criticizing the treatment of Muslims by Jews and Christians (and Capitalists) doesn't mean I embrace Islam but rather I condemn ethnic cleansing and genocide being employed in my name for the purpose of controlling resources in Jerusalem, for example.
A Third Intifada on the Horizon

In fairness, Left Wing nutters also hate Christians. Christians are probably their most despised Boogeyman. But for some strange reason, they do always seem to embrace Islam. They don't express nearly as much hate for Islam, as they do Christianity and Judaism. It's pretty bizarre. But hey, Communists/Progressives are pretty warped people, no?
Speaking as a "left wing nutter" and not as a "communist" (which I am not), I think it's fair to say criticizing the treatment of Muslims by Jews and Christians (and Capitalists) doesn't mean I embrace Islam but rather I condemn ethnic cleansing and genocide being employed in my name for the purpose of controlling resources in Jerusalem, for example.
A Third Intifada on the Horizon

Fair enough. Just pointing out that Left Wing nutters do express much more hate for Christians and Jews than they do Muslims. But obviously Christians are their most despised Boogeyman.
.
Some Christians and Jews are doing everything they can think of the bury the "two-state" solution in Jerusalem, as we speak.
"Last week, a Palestinian man drove his car into passengers getting off the light rail in East Jerusalem, killing a baby Israeli girl and a 22-year-old tourist from Ecuador.

"Days later, a 14-year-old Palestinian, who was a dual citizen in the United States, was shot dead by the IDF forces, who claimed the boy was about to toss a firebomb.

"The U.S. Department [of State] has called for an investigation."

"Meanwhile, plans continue to move forward for the construction of about 1,000 new housing units in Jewish neighborhoods located in occupied East Jerusalem.

"And Defensive Minister Moshe Ya'alon also has issued a directive banning Palestinians from riding Israeli-run buses in the West Bank. Israeli human rights organization B'Tselem is describing the directive as a, quote, 'thinly veiled pandering to the demand for racial segregation on buses.'"
The violence that flared last summer in Gush Etzion and Gaza shows signs of blowing up in Jerusalem this winter.

Who will you blame?

A Third Intifada on the Horizon

So you absolutely believe that the Palestinians MUST recognize Israel's right to exist before any peace can be had, correct?
Correct.
"As reported by the Financial Times, in 1988 Yasser Arafat declared that the Palestinians had accepted Israel's right to exist.[16] In 1993, there was an official exchange of letters between Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and Chairman Arafat, in which Arafat declared that 'the PLO affirms that those articles of the Palestinian Covenant which deny Israel's right to exist, and the provisions of the Covenant which are inconsistent with the commitments of this letter are now inoperative and no longer valid.'[17]

"In 2009 Prime Minister Ehud Olmert demanded the Palestinian Authority's acceptance of Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state, which the Palestinian Authority rejected.[18] The Knesset plenum gave initial approval in May 2009 to a bill criminalising the public denial of Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state, with a penalty of up to a year in prison."
Do you believe the Jewish state has a right to exist on Arab land?
Right to exist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
 

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