National Healthcare in Britain: They just canceled 50,000 surgeries...

What does that due to negate the fact that the US has the most expensive healthcare in the world, and how many were traveling, how many are wealthy paying cash?

We are the richest nation in the world, we can afford the best health care.

What nation has provided more new life-extending or saving drugs, new technology, and procedures than the United States?

Why do you demand that we change to egregious waiting lists as they have in Canada and Great Britain, as you saw in the headline post?

Quality health care is available to all.
 
Universal healthcare is paid through taxes like education and the roads you drive on. We already pay taxes. So our tax dollars should at least go into a necessity like healthcare.

Here is an example of the concealed costs in those countries you idolize.

These calculations do not take the recent massive Federal Income Tax cuts which begin this year.

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My true belief is that the middle class workers in the US don't make a high enough level of pay for the jobs they're performing.

If that middle-income worker quit their job, would there be someone available to fill that job at the same salary as the person who quit? Of course. Probably dozens of applications.

Ninety-nine percent of workers are paid exactly what they are worth.
 
You do know most clinics in Mexico are owned by American doctors because they don’t have to pay for fucked up frivolous lawsuits and extreme regulations and liability insurance

Please provide us with your reliable source and link.
 
Healthcare is a human right. Every other first world nation has universal healthcare.

People shouldn’t be dying because they’re afraid of incurring debt from medical bills.

As you can see by the very headline of this thread, people in those countries you admire, DIE on egregious waiting lists and a lack of facilities.

How is that better than what we have in America?
 
Healthcare is a human right. Every other first world nation has universal healthcare.

People shouldn’t be dying because they’re afraid of incurring debt from medical bills.

As you can see by the very headline of this thread, people in those countries you admire, DIE on egregious waiting lists and a lack of facilities.

How is that better than what we have in America?

People in France and UK die because of their healthcare.
 
No one is questioning the quality of the Healthcare. But the system is broken. What good is high quality health care when no one can afford it.

And yes other people do come to our country for Healthcare. But their government pays for their care while in the US.

I work in Qatar and if there is a procedure that can't be done in Qatar , the government will send them to the US and pay for it.

Our government won't even pay for an advil.
Why do you want other people to pay for your shit? Are you some type a fucking deadbeat?

Healthcare is a human right. Every other first world nation has universal healthcare.

People shouldn’t be dying because they’re afraid of incurring debt from medical bills.
I have no right to healthcare, but I do have a right to earn my health care. Why do you people insist on forcing everybody into the shit that is socialized medicine?

Universal healthcare is paid through taxes like education and the roads you drive on. We already pay taxes. So our tax dollars should at least go into a necessity like healthcare.
Na, The government fucks up everything it touches
**yawn**
 
Healthcare is a human right. Every other first world nation has universal healthcare.

People shouldn’t be dying because they’re afraid of incurring debt from medical bills.

As you can see by the very headline of this thread, people in those countries you admire, DIE on egregious waiting lists and a lack of facilities.

How is that better than what we have in America?

People in France and UK die because of their healthcare.
And no one dies in the US because of lack of access to healthcare.
Your point is well made.
 
Healthcare is a human right. Every other first world nation has universal healthcare.

People shouldn’t be dying because they’re afraid of incurring debt from medical bills.

As you can see by the very headline of this thread, people in those countries you admire, DIE on egregious waiting lists and a lack of facilities.

How is that better than what we have in America?

People in France and UK die because of their healthcare.
And no one dies in the US because of lack of access to healthcare.
Your point is well made.

They have the access. If they do not take advantage of that access, whose fault is that?
 
Healthcare is a human right. Every other first world nation has universal healthcare.

People shouldn’t be dying because they’re afraid of incurring debt from medical bills.

As you can see by the very headline of this thread, people in those countries you admire, DIE on egregious waiting lists and a lack of facilities.

How is that better than what we have in America?

People in France and UK die because of their healthcare.
And no one dies in the US because of lack of access to healthcare.
Your point is well made.

They have the access. If they do not take advantage of that access, whose fault is that?
It's exactly the same in the UK.
If the healthcare that's free to all is too busy, they can just go to the private clinics.

If they don't take advantage of that access, whose fault is that?
 
Healthcare is a human right. Every other first world nation has universal healthcare.

People shouldn’t be dying because they’re afraid of incurring debt from medical bills.

As you can see by the very headline of this thread, people in those countries you admire, DIE on egregious waiting lists and a lack of facilities.

How is that better than what we have in America?

People in France and UK die because of their healthcare.
And no one dies in the US because of lack of access to healthcare.
Your point is well made.

They have the access. If they do not take advantage of that access, whose fault is that?
It's exactly the same in the UK.
If the healthcare that's free to all is too busy, they can just go to the private clinics.

If they don't take advantage of that access, whose fault is that?

If they pay.
 
As you can see by the very headline of this thread, people in those countries you admire, DIE on egregious waiting lists and a lack of facilities.

How is that better than what we have in America?

People in France and UK die because of their healthcare.
And no one dies in the US because of lack of access to healthcare.
Your point is well made.

They have the access. If they do not take advantage of that access, whose fault is that?
It's exactly the same in the UK.
If the healthcare that's free to all is too busy, they can just go to the private clinics.

If they don't take advantage of that access, whose fault is that?

If they pay.
... so you're saying the UK healthcare system is prejudiced against the poor??
 
at this rate their health program will rate right there with cuba

another socialist utopia the leftards love so much

We didn't make the top 16.

The 16 countries with the world's best healthcare systems

That's why the rest of the world flocks to the US when they need the best healthcare!

No one is questioning the quality of the Healthcare. But the system is broken. What good is high quality health care when no one can afford it.

And yes other people do come to our country for Healthcare. But their government pays for their care while in the US.

I work in Qatar and if there is a procedure that can't be done in Qatar , the government will send them to the US and pay for it.

Our government won't even pay for an advil.
Why do you want other people to pay for your shit? Are you some type a fucking deadbeat?

Healthcare is a human right. Every other first world nation has universal healthcare.

People shouldn’t be dying because they’re afraid of incurring debt from medical bills.
What makes you think healthcare is a human right???

Access to healthcare is no more a human right than my cigars or my scotch.
 
Healthcare is a human right. Every other first world nation has universal healthcare.

People shouldn’t be dying because they’re afraid of incurring debt from medical bills.

As you can see by the very headline of this thread, people in those countries you admire, DIE on egregious waiting lists and a lack of facilities.

How is that better than what we have in America?

People in France and UK die because of their healthcare.
And no one dies in the US because of lack of access to healthcare.
Your point is well made.

Incorrect. Some people cannot afford their medication which results in them skipping a pill to stretch them out. This causes some people's conditions to worsen.

Also many people refuse to call 911 because they are afraid of the ambulance bill.
 
As you can see by the very headline of this thread, people in those countries you admire, DIE on egregious waiting lists and a lack of facilities.

How is that better than what we have in America?

People in France and UK die because of their healthcare.
And no one dies in the US because of lack of access to healthcare.
Your point is well made.

They have the access. If they do not take advantage of that access, whose fault is that?
It's exactly the same in the UK.
If the healthcare that's free to all is too busy, they can just go to the private clinics.

If they don't take advantage of that access, whose fault is that?

If they pay.

They want "FREE" HEALTH CARE. Their choice.
 
... so you're saying the UK healthcare system is prejudiced against the poor??

Face facts, ALL health care systems are "prejudiced" against the poor.

Life sucks.
Wow!

Everybody says how fair and equal the Canadian and UK systems are - how they care for the poor, how they support the needy - and now we find out that, in fact, if there is a shortage of tax funding, they just let the poor die. I'm curious ----- do they call these government bureaucrats "Death Panels", too?

Hardly seems fair and equal to me.

Wouldn't it be fairer to allow them to walk into medical facilities, allow them to get care, and then offset the cost to those who can afford it? You know ---- kinda like we USED to do.
 
Yep.....the problem with socialized medicine...you run out of money......and then you have to stop giving even crap care to your people...and the really funny part....you have taxed those people at about 60% on their incomes to pay for healthcare you will no longer give them.....

Socialized medicine...when you want to pay for healthcare, but don't want actual medical treatment....

Great moments in single payer: Britain cancels 50,000 surgeries - Hot Air

The UK’s vaunted single-payer system has collapsed into “third world” conditions, thanks to a lack of resources that has ambulances unable to pick up patients, who would find difficulty in getting an empty bed at a hospital. The order came down this week from on high to cancel as many as 50,000 scheduled surgeries over the next several weeks until the National Health Service can figure out how to climb out of the hole (via Guy Benson):

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Every hospital in the country has been ordered to cancel all non-urgent surgery until at least February in an unprecedented step by NHS officials.

The instructions on Tuesday night – which will see result in around 50,000 operations being axed – followed claims by senior doctors that patients were being treated in “third world” conditions, as hospital chief executives warned of the worst winter crisis for three decades.

Hospitals are reporting growing chaos, with a spike in winter flu leaving frail patients facing 12-hour waits, and some units running out of corridor space.

It’s not just the hospitals, either. The NHS will close down outpatient clinics as well, leaving Britons with very few options for healthcare at the beginning of 2018:
This is all because the Tories, the second worst party in the modern world, keep cutting the funding. The UK spends about 8% of GDP on Healthcare while we're over 17% and most countries spend 10 to 12%. And all of them have better outcomes than we do.


No, dumbass, it's because it is unaffordable. That is the reality of state run health care. Because of the inequities built into the system, and the inherent inefficient nature of government, it can never work while man is man.

So robbing Peter (you) to pay Paul (them) to pay Paul (them) is a better answer?
All it does is make Peter sore .... and you KNOW there's nothing worse than a sore Peter!!!
 
at this rate their health program will rate right there with cuba

another socialist utopia the leftards love so much

We didn't make the top 16.

The 16 countries with the world's best healthcare systems

That's why the rest of the world flocks to the US when they need the best healthcare!

That's why Americans flock to Mexico for affordable healthcare.

Anyone who thinks Mexican healthcare is more desirable than that in the US deserves whatever kills him.

Affordability due to wage disparity in the US.

I'm sorry, but that "response" made no sense. What are you babbling about?
 
at this rate their health program will rate right there with cuba

another socialist utopia the leftards love so much

We didn't make the top 16.

The 16 countries with the world's best healthcare systems

That's why the rest of the world flocks to the US when they need the best healthcare!

No one is questioning the quality of the Healthcare. But the system is broken. What good is high quality health care when no one can afford it.

And yes other people do come to our country for Healthcare. But their government pays for their care while in the US.

I work in Qatar and if there is a procedure that can't be done in Qatar , the government will send them to the US and pay for it.

Our government won't even pay for an advil.
Why do you want other people to pay for your shit? Are you some type a fucking deadbeat?

Healthcare is a human right. Every other first world nation has universal healthcare.

People shouldn’t be dying because they’re afraid of incurring debt from medical bills.

No, they should die because the government-run healthcare system is so efficient that they can't get in to see a doctor.
 

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