name one thing Obama has done that has been good for America .

(1) Build the fence.
(2) Enforce tougher employment laws on business.
(3) Immigration reform law.

All at once, not piecemeal, or either side will renege.
The only fence you need is disincentive. Make the only jobs for illegals in the ag fields. Any other employment and they and their employer are busted/fined. Instead of deporting them just to return again, they go to ag work camps to serve their sentence for no money.

Trust me. Word will get out and suddenly, magically, the illegal problem will cease to exist. Such a cheap fence that would be to "build"...
 
The first African-American President? lol I guess that was his best contribution..

lol.. I suspect in Obama's next book he'll blame his failures as President on the part of him that is white.

-Geaux
He 'can't be racist because he's black', apparently. Just forget he is the most Anti-Israel, and the most Anti-Armenian President we have ever had. ;)
 
(1) Build the fence.
(2) Enforce tougher employment laws on business.
(3) Immigration reform law.

All at once, not piecemeal, or either side will renege.
1) fence is dumb

Why, because it works?

2) democrats and republicans both won't enforce the employment laws on the books, what's the point of more laws if we are not going to hold the enforcers accountable for doing their job?

So what's the point of making new laws?

3) reform? WTF do we need more immigration laws for? Name one additional immigration law we need? The problem isn't the laws, the problem is government corruption.

Agreed. We don't need to reform our immigration laws. We just need to enforce them.
 
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(1) Build the fence.
(2) Enforce tougher employment laws on business.
(3) Immigration reform law.

All at once, not piecemeal, or either side will renege.
1) fence is dumb

Why, because it works?

2) democrats and republicans both won't enforce the employment laws on the books, what's the point of more laws if we are not going to hold the enforcers accountable for doing their job?

So what's the point of making new laws?

3) reform? WTF do we need more immigration laws for? Name one additional immigration law we need? The problem isn't the laws, the problem is government corruption.

Agreed. We don't need to reform our immigration laws. We just need to enforce them.
Fences don't work on humans. Ask the french.

Further, we are talking about a border formed by thousands of miles of river, deserts, rocky hills, and oceans... We are not talking about a fence around a prison compound with prisoners who are under watch 24/7. It would take no more than seconds for any human to circumvent any fence made by man. If you want to secure the border you are gonna have to use a combination of air support, coast guard, and boots on the ground. Even then, at least 1/3 of your employees will be low paid employees that want the immigration to take place. And you know what that means. They'll be closing their eyes to crossings in exchange for $.

There is no point in making laws when our lawmakers and people keeping the law are for sale and making a mockery of the law.
 
the left and Obama are waiting until this election to enforce legislation that are going to anger a and hurt a lot of Americans ! this is the type of evil bullshit that defines the liars on the left ! why are they waiting until the midterms elections are over to enforce these back breaking REGULATIONS !!! BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT WILL HURT AMERICA AND PEOPLE WILL BLAME THEIR PARTY !!!
 
Here is a list of 262 of President Obama’s accomplishments as President. Every one of them has a citation, so no one can dismiss these as lies.

Okay, now your turn.

Name even one thing the Repubs have done FOR the US.

Let me save you some time and typing.

The Repub have done NOT ONE FUCKING THING for the US.
Actually - I can dismiss it as LIES after reading just a couple. Here's a prime example:
"Oversaw the creation of more jobs in 2010 alone than Bush did in eight years."

Oh yeah - then why does he have a higher unemployment rate than GWB ever had? The libs love to crow that Obama "created 4 million jobs" but that's easy to do when you've lost 6 million jobs. He has a NET LOSS of jobs as president but the libs twist the facts (as they always do) and only talk about the jobs "created". If you have a net loss - you didn't "create" anything.

Thanks for playing LN - but this list is pure, unadulterated bullshit. The fact that the left has to consider a NET LOSS of jobs under Obama among his "accomplishments" kind of says it all.
 
Here is a list of 262 of President Obama’s accomplishments as President. Every one of them has a citation, so no one can dismiss these as lies.

Okay, now your turn.

Name even one thing the Repubs have done FOR the US.

Let me save you some time and typing.

The Repub have done NOT ONE FUCKING THING for the US.
Actually - I can dismiss it as LIES after reading just a couple. Here's a prime example:
"Oversaw the creation of more jobs in 2010 alone than Bush did in eight years."

Oh yeah - then why does he have a higher unemployment rate than GWB ever had? The libs love to crow that Obama "created 4 million jobs" but that's easy to do when you've lost 6 million jobs. He has a NET LOSS of jobs as president but the libs twist the facts (as they always do) and only talk about the jobs "created". If you have a net loss - you didn't "create" anything.

Thanks for playing LN - but this list is pure, unadulterated bullshit. The fact that the left has to consider a NET LOSS of jobs under Obama among his "accomplishments" kind of says it all.
There is no net loss. There's a net gain (so far) of 5,131,000

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Oh yeah - then why does he have a higher unemployment rate than GWB ever had?
He doesn't. Current unemployment rate is 5.8%. Bush had a higher employment rate than that in 2002, most of 2003, and much of 2009.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
 
Here is a list of 262 of President Obama’s accomplishments as President. Every one of them has a citation, so no one can dismiss these as lies.

Okay, now your turn.

Name even one thing the Repubs have done FOR the US.

Let me save you some time and typing.

The Repub have done NOT ONE FUCKING THING for the US.
Actually - I can dismiss it as LIES after reading just a couple. Here's a prime example:
"Oversaw the creation of more jobs in 2010 alone than Bush did in eight years."

Oh yeah - then why does he have a higher unemployment rate than GWB ever had? The libs love to crow that Obama "created 4 million jobs" but that's easy to do when you've lost 6 million jobs. He has a NET LOSS of jobs as president but the libs twist the facts (as they always do) and only talk about the jobs "created". If you have a net loss - you didn't "create" anything.

Thanks for playing LN - but this list is pure, unadulterated bullshit. The fact that the left has to consider a NET LOSS of jobs under Obama among his "accomplishments" kind of says it all.
There is no net loss. There's a net gain (so far) of 5,131,000

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Oh yeah - then why does he have a higher unemployment rate than GWB ever had?
He doesn't. Current unemployment rate is 5.8%. Bush had a higher employment rate than that in 2002, most of 2003, and much of 2009.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
Gotta love retards that use statistics that show how bad the country is doing as proof of how dumb they are. ROFL It's like having ferrets as pets.
 
Here is a list of 262 of President Obama’s accomplishments as President. Every one of them has a citation, so no one can dismiss these as lies.

Okay, now your turn.

Name even one thing the Repubs have done FOR the US.

Let me save you some time and typing.

The Repub have done NOT ONE FUCKING THING for the US.
Actually - I can dismiss it as LIES after reading just a couple. Here's a prime example:
"Oversaw the creation of more jobs in 2010 alone than Bush did in eight years."

Oh yeah - then why does he have a higher unemployment rate than GWB ever had? The libs love to crow that Obama "created 4 million jobs" but that's easy to do when you've lost 6 million jobs. He has a NET LOSS of jobs as president but the libs twist the facts (as they always do) and only talk about the jobs "created". If you have a net loss - you didn't "create" anything.

Thanks for playing LN - but this list is pure, unadulterated bullshit. The fact that the left has to consider a NET LOSS of jobs under Obama among his "accomplishments" kind of says it all.
There is no net loss. There's a net gain (so far) of 5,131,000

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Oh yeah - then why does he have a higher unemployment rate than GWB ever had?
He doesn't. Current unemployment rate is 5.8%. Bush had a higher employment rate than that in 2002, most of 2003, and much of 2009.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
Gotta love retards that use statistics that show how bad the country is doing as proof of how dumb they are. ROFL It's like having ferrets as pets.
Leave it to a rightard to think 5.8% unemployment shows how bad the country is doing.

At this point in Reagan's presidency, unemployment was 7%. According to your idiocy, the country was doing far worse in 1986 than it is today. :eusa_doh:
 
Here is a list of 262 of President Obama’s accomplishments as President. Every one of them has a citation, so no one can dismiss these as lies.

Okay, now your turn.

Name even one thing the Repubs have done FOR the US.

Let me save you some time and typing.

The Repub have done NOT ONE FUCKING THING for the US.
Actually - I can dismiss it as LIES after reading just a couple. Here's a prime example:
"Oversaw the creation of more jobs in 2010 alone than Bush did in eight years."

Oh yeah - then why does he have a higher unemployment rate than GWB ever had? The libs love to crow that Obama "created 4 million jobs" but that's easy to do when you've lost 6 million jobs. He has a NET LOSS of jobs as president but the libs twist the facts (as they always do) and only talk about the jobs "created". If you have a net loss - you didn't "create" anything.

Thanks for playing LN - but this list is pure, unadulterated bullshit. The fact that the left has to consider a NET LOSS of jobs under Obama among his "accomplishments" kind of says it all.
There is no net loss. There's a net gain (so far) of 5,131,000

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Oh yeah - then why does he have a higher unemployment rate than GWB ever had?
He doesn't. Current unemployment rate is 5.8%. Bush had a higher employment rate than that in 2002, most of 2003, and much of 2009.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
Gotta love retards that use statistics that show how bad the country is doing as proof of how dumb they are. ROFL It's like having ferrets as pets.
Leave it to a rightard to think 5.8% unemployment shows how bad the country is doing.

At this point in Reagan's presidency, unemployment was 7%. According to your idiocy, the country was doing far worse in 1986 than it is today. :eusa_doh:
Your the idiot that thinks 8million people leaving the work force is a good thing.
 
(1) Build the fence.
(2) Enforce tougher employment laws on business.
(3) Immigration reform law.

All at once, not piecemeal, or either side will renege.
1) fence is dumb

Why, because it works?

2) democrats and republicans both won't enforce the employment laws on the books, what's the point of more laws if we are not going to hold the enforcers accountable for doing their job?

So what's the point of making new laws?

3) reform? WTF do we need more immigration laws for? Name one additional immigration law we need? The problem isn't the laws, the problem is government corruption.

Agreed. We don't need to reform our immigration laws. We just need to enforce them.
Fences don't work on humans. Ask the french.

Further, we are talking about a border formed by thousands of miles of river, deserts, rocky hills, and oceans... We are not talking about a fence around a prison compound with prisoners who are under watch 24/7. It would take no more than seconds for any human to circumvent any fence made by man. If you want to secure the border you are gonna have to use a combination of air support, coast guard, and boots on the ground. Even then, at least 1/3 of your employees will be low paid employees that want the immigration to take place. And you know what that means. They'll be closing their eyes to crossings in exchange for $.

There is no point in making laws when our lawmakers and people keeping the law are for sale and making a mockery of the law.

If illegals were coming over in tanks and armored personal carriers, you might have a point. Since they are unarmed, your claim is ironic.

Is strange that the Chinese saw the value in building a wall to keep the nomads from the North out of their country, but American liberals and RINOs don't seem to get it. The Chinese kept adding to their wall and rebuilding it, so they obviously believed it had value. It wasn't a white elephant that proved to be a failure. The historical evidence shows that your claims are just plain wrong.

The Chinese built a wall. The Romans built several walls. The Israelis built a wall, and the East Germans built a wall. What has been the success rate for people trying to cross the Israeli wall?

On top of all that you admit that the system you propose will be defeated by corruption.
 
(1) Build the fence.
(2) Enforce tougher employment laws on business.
(3) Immigration reform law.

All at once, not piecemeal, or either side will renege.
1) fence is dumb

Why, because it works?

2) democrats and republicans both won't enforce the employment laws on the books, what's the point of more laws if we are not going to hold the enforcers accountable for doing their job?

So what's the point of making new laws?

3) reform? WTF do we need more immigration laws for? Name one additional immigration law we need? The problem isn't the laws, the problem is government corruption.

Agreed. We don't need to reform our immigration laws. We just need to enforce them.
Fences don't work on humans. Ask the french.

Further, we are talking about a border formed by thousands of miles of river, deserts, rocky hills, and oceans... We are not talking about a fence around a prison compound with prisoners who are under watch 24/7. It would take no more than seconds for any human to circumvent any fence made by man. If you want to secure the border you are gonna have to use a combination of air support, coast guard, and boots on the ground. Even then, at least 1/3 of your employees will be low paid employees that want the immigration to take place. And you know what that means. They'll be closing their eyes to crossings in exchange for $.

There is no point in making laws when our lawmakers and people keeping the law are for sale and making a mockery of the law.

If illegals were coming over in tanks and armored personal carriers, you might have a point. Since they are unarmed, your claim is ironic.

Is strange that the Chinese saw the value in building a wall to keep the nomads from the North out of their country, but American liberals and RINOs don't seem to get it. The Chinese kept adding to their wall and rebuilding it, so they obviously believed it had value. It wasn't a white elephant that proved to be a failure. The historical evidence shows that your claims are just plain wrong.

The Chinese built a wall. The Romans built several walls. The Israelis built a wall, and the East Germans built a wall. What has been the success rate for people trying to cross the Israeli wall?

On top of all that you admit that the system you propose will be defeated by corruption.
Sorry dude, you are confused. The Chinese built a wall and it didn't work was a waste of resources. Read some history. The French built a wall and it didn't work, was a waste of resources. Walls around castles with cannon and armed guards, is not the same as thousands of miles of unmanned fences. The whole idea is quite frankly, the DUMBEST IDEA EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY.
 

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