My new Assault weapon

[harmonica]

so---there are a lot of contradictions out there
some USMB member says they need more than 10 rounds for self defense/etc
another member says a pistol won't do if you're confronted by a lot of people
then other USMB members say knives and cars are just as dangerous as rifles/etc
why don't they use knives for self defense--instead of firearms ??!!!

The situation dictates the weapon, doofus.

interesting.....
examples/details/explain please

Walking around town....pistol.

Driving around town, pistol.

Major social disruption, natural disaster, riots, tornados......rifle to prevent looters and other criminals, likely in small to larger groups, likely armed....from attacking your family until the police can restore order and law.

???!!
what?I thought you meant you would carry a knife sometimes.....
so, the knife is not equal to the firearm--yes?

That depends on the situation......

Do you want to be quiet? Is the gun holstered and your knife ready and out....

give me an example--a scenario please

 

[2aguy]

The situation dictates the weapon, doofus.

interesting.....
examples/details/explain please

Walking around town....pistol.

Driving around town, pistol.

Major social disruption, natural disaster, riots, tornados......rifle to prevent looters and other criminals, likely in small to larger groups, likely armed....from attacking your family until the police can restore order and law.

???!!
what?I thought you meant you would carry a knife sometimes.....
so, the knife is not equal to the firearm--yes?

That depends on the situation......

Do you want to be quiet? Is the gun holstered and your knife ready and out....

give me an example--a scenario please

Police responding to a domestic, while they are talking to the husband the wife uses a knife to kill the police officer...tight quarters, holstered guns......knife wins.

 

[2aguy]

The situation dictates the weapon, doofus.

interesting.....
examples/details/explain please

Walking around town....pistol.

Driving around town, pistol.

Major social disruption, natural disaster, riots, tornados......rifle to prevent looters and other criminals, likely in small to larger groups, likely armed....from attacking your family until the police can restore order and law.

???!!
what?I thought you meant you would carry a knife sometimes.....
so, the knife is not equal to the firearm--yes?

That depends on the situation......

Do you want to be quiet? Is the gun holstered and your knife ready and out....

give me an example--a scenario please

Sitting in a car, the other guy has a holstered gun, you pull a knife and stab him as he is trying to draw the pistol....it also has the advantage of not blowing out your ear drums.

 

[harmonica]

interesting.....
examples/details/explain please

Walking around town....pistol.

Driving around town, pistol.

Major social disruption, natural disaster, riots, tornados......rifle to prevent looters and other criminals, likely in small to larger groups, likely armed....from attacking your family until the police can restore order and law.

???!!
what?I thought you meant you would carry a knife sometimes.....
so, the knife is not equal to the firearm--yes?

That depends on the situation......

Do you want to be quiet? Is the gun holstered and your knife ready and out....

give me an example--a scenario please

Police responding to a domestic, while they are talking to the husband the wife uses a knife to kill the police officer...tight quarters, holstered guns......knife wins.

1. the point is YOU/cops/etc using a knife for DEFENSE.....??????!!!!--how come the cops/you/etc do not use knives for defense????? THIS is the question
2. so if the cops had holstered knives, the nice lady also wins---------!!!!!?????
3. males commit over 85% of murders--not females
this is kind of a ''crazy''/implausible/highly unlikely [possible--but highly unlikely ] scenario

 

[2aguy]

Walking around town....pistol.

Driving around town, pistol.

Major social disruption, natural disaster, riots, tornados......rifle to prevent looters and other criminals, likely in small to larger groups, likely armed....from attacking your family until the police can restore order and law.

???!!
what?I thought you meant you would carry a knife sometimes.....
so, the knife is not equal to the firearm--yes?

That depends on the situation......

Do you want to be quiet? Is the gun holstered and your knife ready and out....

give me an example--a scenario please

Police responding to a domestic, while they are talking to the husband the wife uses a knife to kill the police officer...tight quarters, holstered guns......knife wins.

1. the point is YOU/cops/etc using a knife for DEFENSE.....??????!!!!--how come the cops/you/etc do not use knives for defense????? THIS is the question
2. so if the cops had holstered knives, the nice lady also wins---------!!!!!?????
3. males commit over 85% of murders--not females
this is kind of a ''crazy''/implausible/highly unlikely [possible--but highly unlikely ] scenario

It happens...... in tight quarters you can beat a gun with a knife...especially if the gun is holstered.....

 

[harmonica]

???!!
what?I thought you meant you would carry a knife sometimes.....
so, the knife is not equal to the firearm--yes?

That depends on the situation......

Do you want to be quiet? Is the gun holstered and your knife ready and out....

give me an example--a scenario please

Police responding to a domestic, while they are talking to the husband the wife uses a knife to kill the police officer...tight quarters, holstered guns......knife wins.

1. the point is YOU/cops/etc using a knife for DEFENSE.....??????!!!!--how come the cops/you/etc do not use knives for defense????? THIS is the question
2. so if the cops had holstered knives, the nice lady also wins---------!!!!!?????
3. males commit over 85% of murders--not females
this is kind of a ''crazy''/implausible/highly unlikely [possible--but highly unlikely ] scenario

It happens...... in tight quarters you can beat a gun with a knife...especially if the gun is holstered.....

no, you don't say????!!!! I NEVER would've have known that.......
so---again, why don't police carry knives---THEN???
would you carry a knife or pistol for protection??

 

[2aguy]

That depends on the situation......

Do you want to be quiet? Is the gun holstered and your knife ready and out....

give me an example--a scenario please

Police responding to a domestic, while they are talking to the husband the wife uses a knife to kill the police officer...tight quarters, holstered guns......knife wins.

1. the point is YOU/cops/etc using a knife for DEFENSE.....??????!!!!--how come the cops/you/etc do not use knives for defense????? THIS is the question
2. so if the cops had holstered knives, the nice lady also wins---------!!!!!?????
3. males commit over 85% of murders--not females
this is kind of a ''crazy''/implausible/highly unlikely [possible--but highly unlikely ] scenario

It happens...... in tight quarters you can beat a gun with a knife...especially if the gun is holstered.....

no, you don't say????!!!! I NEVER would've have known that.......
so---again, why don't police carry knives---THEN???
would you carry a knife or pistol for protection??

Because guns are more effective in more situations.... but as I said, and you ignore as a troll.....it all depends on the situation of the attack.....you can troll all you want, doofus, but that is the truth.

 

[harmonica]

give me an example--a scenario please

Police responding to a domestic, while they are talking to the husband the wife uses a knife to kill the police officer...tight quarters, holstered guns......knife wins.

1. the point is YOU/cops/etc using a knife for DEFENSE.....??????!!!!--how come the cops/you/etc do not use knives for defense????? THIS is the question
2. so if the cops had holstered knives, the nice lady also wins---------!!!!!?????
3. males commit over 85% of murders--not females
this is kind of a ''crazy''/implausible/highly unlikely [possible--but highly unlikely ] scenario

It happens...... in tight quarters you can beat a gun with a knife...especially if the gun is holstered.....

no, you don't say????!!!! I NEVER would've have known that.......
so---again, why don't police carry knives---THEN???
would you carry a knife or pistol for protection??

Because guns are more effective in more situations.... but as I said, and you ignore as a troll.....it all depends on the situation of the attack.....you can troll all you want, doofus, but that is the truth.

..no trolling--just truth
....so if there were a LOT of situations/more situations where the knife is better--wouldn't the cops have knives??

Because guns are more effective in more situations.

thank you --yes--they are
was that hard to say????!!! like the Fonz saying he was wrong???!!!

 

[Dick Foster]

so---there are a lot of contradictions out there
some USMB member says they need more than 10 rounds for self defense/etc
another member says a pistol won't do if you're confronted by a lot of people
then other USMB members say knives and cars are just as dangerous as rifles/etc
why don't they use knives for self defense--instead of firearms ??!!!

why don't they use knives for self defense--instead of firearms ??!!!

knives aren't much of a defense against a bullet

Yet gun nuts are constantly saying knives are just as much of a threat as guns.

look at the stats.

More people are killed by knives than by the 'ASSAULT WEAPONS' the left wants banned.

firearms [ rifles ] kill about 70%...knives about 17%
look at the stats
....Germany, France, UK, Japan, etc etc have many times lower murder rates with gun ban/gun control = plain and simple

So does Switzerland yet per capa they have many more guns and they are evil assualt weapons too.

 

[2aguy]

so---there are a lot of contradictions out there
some USMB member says they need more than 10 rounds for self defense/etc
another member says a pistol won't do if you're confronted by a lot of people
then other USMB members say knives and cars are just as dangerous as rifles/etc
why don't they use knives for self defense--instead of firearms ??!!!

why don't they use knives for self defense--instead of firearms ??!!!

knives aren't much of a defense against a bullet

Yet gun nuts are constantly saying knives are just as much of a threat as guns.

look at the stats.

More people are killed by knives than by the 'ASSAULT WEAPONS' the left wants banned.

firearms [ rifles ] kill about 70%...knives about 17%
look at the stats
....Germany, France, UK, Japan, etc etc have many times lower murder rates with gun ban/gun control = plain and simple

So does Switzerland yet per capa they have many more guns and they are evil assualt weapons too.

Yep...actual military weapons, not civilian and police rifles.....

 

[harmonica]

so---there are a lot of contradictions out there
some USMB member says they need more than 10 rounds for self defense/etc
another member says a pistol won't do if you're confronted by a lot of people
then other USMB members say knives and cars are just as dangerous as rifles/etc
why don't they use knives for self defense--instead of firearms ??!!!

why don't they use knives for self defense--instead of firearms ??!!!

knives aren't much of a defense against a bullet

Yet gun nuts are constantly saying knives are just as much of a threat as guns.

look at the stats.

More people are killed by knives than by the 'ASSAULT WEAPONS' the left wants banned.

firearms [ rifles ] kill about 70%...knives about 17%
look at the stats
....Germany, France, UK, Japan, etc etc have many times lower murder rates with gun ban/gun control = plain and simple

So does Switzerland yet per capa they have many more guns and they are evil assualt weapons too.

idiotic analogy
..8 million to 3 HUNDRED million
...they were/are more or less a ''closed off'' society
etc
the countries MORE comparable to the US are France, Germany, Japan, UK, etc

 

[2aguy]

knives aren't much of a defense against a bullet

Yet gun nuts are constantly saying knives are just as much of a threat as guns.

look at the stats.

More people are killed by knives than by the 'ASSAULT WEAPONS' the left wants banned.

firearms [ rifles ] kill about 70%...knives about 17%
look at the stats
....Germany, France, UK, Japan, etc etc have many times lower murder rates with gun ban/gun control = plain and simple

So does Switzerland yet per capa they have many more guns and they are evil assualt weapons too.

idiotic analogy
..8 million to 3 HUNDRED million
...they were/are more or less a ''closed off'' society
etc
the countries MORE comparable to the US are France, Germany, Japan, UK, etc

Wrong....the debate point from asshats like you is More Guns = More Gun Crime....no matter what other factors or lack of factors are involved....

The anti-gun theory and argument.....

More Guns = More Gun crime regardless of any other factors.

Actual Result:

In the U.S....as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years, gun murder down 49%, gun crime down 75%, violent crime down 72%

The result: Exact opposite of theory of anti-gunners....

In Science when you have a theory, when that theory is tested....and the exact opposite result happens...that means your theory is wrong. That is science....not left wing wishful thinking.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

so firearms are much more efficient/etc for killing?

and self defense, target shooting, hunting.

up should adopt another brain cell,

the one you have seems to be lonely

that's what I thought-but:
according to 2AGuy and many others, knives are just as efficient as firearms---
Ban knives...
Guns and Knives
etc etc

I think the point is the person is more important than the tool. Bombs are more efficient than just about everything. Maybe we should ban them? However, guns, knives, and bombs do not have intent nor will. By themselves, they are harmless.

Bombs are more efficient than just about everything. Maybe we should ban them?
They sell them in Cabelas?

My point is that they are already illegal, but criminals and crazies make them and use them to kill people. You can buy the ingredients and any hardware, and home supply store.

The bombs that can be made without raising too many eyebrows are very small and mostly will maim one or two people and that's about all. They aren't much more than an old style M-80 firecracker in power. If you want to build something bigger, you are going to either need a higher quantity of explosives (i.e. gun powder) or something like a form of Nitrate. The Flags just went off. Real Bomb Makers almost always get bagged because of the logistics and supply.

For instance, if I want to by Nitrogen Fertilizer in, say 200 lb quantity, I will need to be a company that has a legitimate use for it and have filed the proper paper work, have the proper permits with all levels of Government. OK City can't happen anymore. Same goes for trying to buy 1000 gallons of diesel fuel. Yes, you can get 1000 gallons of Diesel but you are going to have to make a whole lot of trips to the gas station to get it. And pulling up with a tank will raise those flags. The Pumps are set to only do X number of gallons then shut off. If you call your local Diesel Bulk Provider and don't have a legit use the 1000 gallons then the flags go off. Bombs aren't the way to go these days.

Of course, you could make your own Nitro but, again, at least one of the chemicals involved is highly regulated. More flags. You could also buy the TNT but once again, highly regulated. So you make the little bombs that are more an annoyance than a danger to life. The most you can do is blind or disfigure someone.

France hasn't learned it's lesson. But the US isn't France.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Did it matter to Timothy McVeigh that bombs were "not on the list". Or when the Muslims used the planes as BOMBS to kill over 3,000 innocent Americans?

The chemicals required to do the Truck Bomb have sense been heavily regulated. And there has been methods placed in Aircraft to prevent you gaining access to the cockpit using brute force and something as stupid as box cutters. Time for you to grow up.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

knives aren't much of a defense against a bullet

Yet gun nuts are constantly saying knives are just as much of a threat as guns.

look at the stats.

More people are killed by knives than by the 'ASSAULT WEAPONS' the left wants banned.

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Now, take your data and screen out all of those "murders" that occurred during the commission of crime and you will find most are gangbangers killing each other over drugs an "turf". Then look at how many are killed with "assault rifles".

Inconvenient truths for gun grabbers is all you have in reality.

Then you could just disregard all left handed shooters, and those that have anything other than blond hair. There are just too many crazies and gun nuts with too many guns on the street. I know that, and you know it too, even if the NRA tells you to refuse to admit t.

There are too many ILLEGAL guns on the streets. That is what you meant to say, right dumbass?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

and self defense, target shooting, hunting.

up should adopt another brain cell,

the one you have seems to be lonely

that's what I thought-but:
according to 2AGuy and many others, knives are just as efficient as firearms---
Ban knives...
Guns and Knives
etc etc

I think the point is the person is more important than the tool. Bombs are more efficient than just about everything. Maybe we should ban them? However, guns, knives, and bombs do not have intent nor will. By themselves, they are harmless.

Bombs are more efficient than just about everything. Maybe we should ban them?
They sell them in Cabelas?

My point is that they are already illegal, but criminals and crazies make them and use them to kill people. You can buy the ingredients and any hardware, and home supply store.

The bombs that can be made without raising too many eyebrows are very small and mostly will maim one or two people and that's about all. They aren't much more than an old style M-80 firecracker in power. If you want to build something bigger, you are going to either need a higher quantity of explosives (i.e. gun powder) or something like a form of Nitrate. The Flags just went off. Real Bomb Makers almost always get bagged because of the logistics and supply.

For instance, if I want to by Nitrogen Fertilizer in, say 200 lb quantity, I will need to be a company that has a legitimate use for it and have filed the proper paper work, have the proper permits with all levels of Government. OK City can't happen anymore. Same goes for trying to buy 1000 gallons of diesel fuel. Yes, you can get 1000 gallons of Diesel but you are going to have to make a whole lot of trips to the gas station to get it. And pulling up with a tank will raise those flags. The Pumps are set to only do X number of gallons then shut off. If you call your local Diesel Bulk Provider and don't have a legit use the 1000 gallons then the flags go off. Bombs aren't the way to go these days.

Of course, you could make your own Nitro but, again, at least one of the chemicals involved is highly regulated. More flags. You could also buy the TNT but once again, highly regulated. So you make the little bombs that are more an annoyance than a danger to life. The most you can do is blind or disfigure someone.

France hasn't learned it's lesson. But the US isn't France.

Flags don't go off. Flags go up! Make up your mind!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Police responding to a domestic, while they are talking to the husband the wife uses a knife to kill the police officer...tight quarters, holstered guns......knife wins.

1. the point is YOU/cops/etc using a knife for DEFENSE.....??????!!!!--how come the cops/you/etc do not use knives for defense????? THIS is the question
2. so if the cops had holstered knives, the nice lady also wins---------!!!!!?????
3. males commit over 85% of murders--not females
this is kind of a ''crazy''/implausible/highly unlikely [possible--but highly unlikely ] scenario

It happens...... in tight quarters you can beat a gun with a knife...especially if the gun is holstered.....

no, you don't say????!!!! I NEVER would've have known that.......
so---again, why don't police carry knives---THEN???
would you carry a knife or pistol for protection??

Because guns are more effective in more situations.... but as I said, and you ignore as a troll.....it all depends on the situation of the attack.....you can troll all you want, doofus, but that is the truth.

..no trolling--just truth
....so if there were a LOT of situations/more situations where the knife is better--wouldn't the cops have knives??

Because guns are more effective in more situations.

thank you --yes--they are
was that hard to say????!!! like the Fonz saying he was wrong???!!!

That's not what he said, dumbass! He said exactly the opposite. When are you going to learn to read?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

knives aren't much of a defense against a bullet

Yet gun nuts are constantly saying knives are just as much of a threat as guns.

look at the stats.

More people are killed by knives than by the 'ASSAULT WEAPONS' the left wants banned.

firearms [ rifles ] kill about 70%...knives about 17%
look at the stats
....Germany, France, UK, Japan, etc etc have many times lower murder rates with gun ban/gun control = plain and simple

So does Switzerland yet per capa they have many more guns and they are evil assualt weapons too.

idiotic analogy
..8 million to 3 HUNDRED million
...they were/are more or less a ''closed off'' society
etc
the countries MORE comparable to the US are France, Germany, Japan, UK, etc

Even all of those countries combined have nowhere near our population! FAIL!

 

[OKTexas]

so---there are a lot of contradictions out there
some USMB member says they need more than 10 rounds for self defense/etc
another member says a pistol won't do if you're confronted by a lot of people
then other USMB members say knives and cars are just as dangerous as rifles/etc
why don't they use knives for self defense--instead of firearms ??!!!

Hey dumb fuck, are you familiar with the 23 foot rule?

.

 

[XponentialChaos]

A firearm is the single best tool for self defense

It happens...... in tight quarters you can beat a gun with a knife...especially if the gun is holstered.....

Contradicting arguments from two gun advocates.