I basically agree also. No echo chamber is desired, at least not by me. Life is boring when all people think alike. I enjoy spirited but focused conversation wherein topical discussion can have the potential of enlightening all who read it, not just the participants. Often, that is not possible here because of the brazenness and utter stupidity of some posters that habitually hijack threads and make impossible any sense of continuity. I think their stupidity is a result of their childishness and their brazenness is a result of the anonymity that must be offered here. On occasion, threads may start off well and be subsequently moved to the Rubber Room because of incessant bickering between trolls and respondents. The CDZ comes closest to providing this, but even it fails miserably as threads are invaded by devious posters. Since this is an open Message Board and does not support a formal debate forum wherein two designated posters alternately present a limited number of length-restricted posts to support their side of a structured argument and then get graded by judges, either several selected prior to debate or general member voting, I doubt such enlightening conversations will become common here. The CCG was formed in an attempt to provide a venue for discussion among conservatives unfettered by liberal trolls and other deliberate thread spoilers...just as the numerous 'liberal only' venues were formed for similar reasons. It is the timing and the success of the CCG that draws attention to the sudden closing of all social groups.