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Exactly.This is the same bullshit they say about Obama. Awww Race Relations were great...UNTIL OBAMA RUINED IT!
Now heres Mac has to acknowledge racism exists but she's using the "everyone does it" excuse.
Except one racism was sanctioned and enforced by the Government and the other is people having bad tastes in their mouths for being oppressed.
SAME THING, SAME THING!!
100% agreeSaid another way, PC policing is a partisan tool used by both sides, and it's retarded to claim otherwise.Seeing past generalizations is the exact point.The problem with racists is that they can't see past their generalizations. Yes, many conservatives want gays to have the right to marry.Does p.c. exist coming from the right as well, or does it not?
Only honesty can set you free mac, and despite deflecting from that question - not recognizing that it occurs independent of party affiliation? Youre part of the problem.
Do conservatives want gays to have the right to marry? P.c.
"Pc" police isnt a partisan issue. "Pc" comes from both sides, and its retarded to claim otherwise.
And many don't.The problem with racists is that they can't see past their generalizations. Yes, many conservatives want gays to have the right to marry.Does p.c. exist coming from the right as well, or does it not?
Only honesty can set you free mac, and despite deflecting from that question - not recognizing that it occurs independent of party affiliation? Youre part of the problem.
Do conservatives want gays to have the right to marry? P.c.
Yet the two recent republican candidates, McCain and Romney, were widely known as the left most republicans in the primaries and the ones favored by the democrats that jumped lines to screw with the republican primaries.The problem with racists is that they can't see past their generalizations. Yes, many conservatives want gays to have the right to marry.Does p.c. exist coming from the right as well, or does it not?
Only honesty can set you free mac, and despite deflecting from that question - not recognizing that it occurs independent of party affiliation? Youre part of the problem.
Do conservatives want gays to have the right to marry? P.c.
Many more do not...hell, if the positions of most of your Presidential canidates dont count then nothing does
A good first step would be people like you not judging people based on your ignorance of what the confederate flag means to us. When you grow up as a cracker or what not in the south... the confederate flag means love of the south.. not slavery. The north also had slaves... does that mean the American flag is a slavery flag? No it doesn't.Good first step would be to remove all the con flags flying on red state property.
Okay, let's look at that, and let's stipulate that most conservatives treat people as you say.Most conservatives treat people of other races than themselves without prejudice. They treat people by the content of their character not the color of their skin. Treating people of other races as "special" ... yeah that's what most democrats and racists do.
A good first step would be people like you not judging people based on your ignorance of what the confederate flag means to us. When you grow up as a cracker or what not in the south... the confederate flag means love of the south.. not slavery.Good first step would be to remove all the con flags flying on red state property.
I grew up as a cracker in the South. Now what?A good first step would be people like you not judging people based on your ignorance of what the confederate flag means to us. When you grow up as a cracker or what not in the south... the confederate flag means love of the south.. not slavery. The north also had slaves... does that mean the American flag is a slavery flag? No it doesn't.Good first step would be to remove all the con flags flying on red state property.
Google state of Florida flag most don't know it looks like the confederate flag..and for good reason. Check out the Georgia state flag in 2001. There were no slaves in GA in 2001. It's not about slaves it's about regions of the country, it's about independence and liberty.
Yes, when a NAZI shows up at a conservative rally it makes conservatives look bad. The same as happens when NAZIs show up at liberal rallies.Okay, let's look at that, and let's stipulate that most conservatives treat people as you say.Most conservatives treat people of other races than themselves without prejudice. They treat people by the content of their character not the color of their skin. Treating people of other races as "special" ... yeah that's what most democrats and racists do.
Can we agree that those who do not make conservatism an easier target? It certainly isn't difficult to see that the behavior still exists.
And if that's the case, what can be done internally, culturally, to minimize that?
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Learn it live it... when you see people that you have influence on not doing that, teach them that they are wrong.Yes, when a NAZI shows up at a conservative rally it makes conservatives look bad. The same as happens when NAZIs show up at liberal rallies.Okay, let's look at that, and let's stipulate that most conservatives treat people as you say.Most conservatives treat people of other races than themselves without prejudice. They treat people by the content of their character not the color of their skin. Treating people of other races as "special" ... yeah that's what most democrats and racists do.
Can we agree that those who do not make conservatism an easier target? It certainly isn't difficult to see that the behavior still exists.
And if that's the case, what can be done internally, culturally, to minimize that?
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So yes the bad behavior still exists.
What can be done is already being done. Treat people by the content of their character not the color of their skin. Learn it live it... when you see people that you have influence on not doing that, teach them that they are wrong.
It also means tempering the PC police. Firing someone because of a mistake, for example blurting a racial epithet, is not going to teach anything. To the contrary, it divides. Some people curse.. racial epithets can be curse words depending on how they are used. They should be bleeped just like all the other curse words, give the guy a stern look and move on.
I'm proceeding under the assumption that the American Left/PC Police are going to continue to deny any complicity in our race problem whatsoever.What interests me about threads like this is the assumption that only people on the right - or all of us according to some - have the ability to exhibit racist tendencies. One gets the feeling they actually believe there are no racist democrats anywhere. Which is utterly stupid.
I know liberals that do it well too. I think many on the left and right have gone astray not because they don't do this, or because they don't want to do this, but rather because it is politically or religiously expedient to look the other way.Learn it live it... when you see people that you have influence on not doing that, teach them that they are wrong.Yes, when a NAZI shows up at a conservative rally it makes conservatives look bad. The same as happens when NAZIs show up at liberal rallies.Okay, let's look at that, and let's stipulate that most conservatives treat people as you say.Most conservatives treat people of other races than themselves without prejudice. They treat people by the content of their character not the color of their skin. Treating people of other races as "special" ... yeah that's what most democrats and racists do.
Can we agree that those who do not make conservatism an easier target? It certainly isn't difficult to see that the behavior still exists.
And if that's the case, what can be done internally, culturally, to minimize that?
.
So yes the bad behavior still exists.
What can be done is already being done. Treat people by the content of their character not the color of their skin. Learn it live it... when you see people that you have influence on not doing that, teach them that they are wrong.
It also means tempering the PC police. Firing someone because of a mistake, for example blurting a racial epithet, is not going to teach anything. To the contrary, it divides. Some people curse.. racial epithets can be curse words depending on how they are used. They should be bleeped just like all the other curse words, give the guy a stern look and move on.
Bingo. Could we agree that conservatives do a better job of that?
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Absolutely. I think that some kind of brave leadership is key here, whether it's from the political, religious or cultural realms, or (more likely) some combination therein.I know liberals that do it well too. I think many on the left and right have gone astray not because they don't do this, or because they don't want to do this, but rather because it is politically or religiously expedient to look the other way.Learn it live it... when you see people that you have influence on not doing that, teach them that they are wrong.Yes, when a NAZI shows up at a conservative rally it makes conservatives look bad. The same as happens when NAZIs show up at liberal rallies.Okay, let's look at that, and let's stipulate that most conservatives treat people as you say.Most conservatives treat people of other races than themselves without prejudice. They treat people by the content of their character not the color of their skin. Treating people of other races as "special" ... yeah that's what most democrats and racists do.
Can we agree that those who do not make conservatism an easier target? It certainly isn't difficult to see that the behavior still exists.
And if that's the case, what can be done internally, culturally, to minimize that?
.
So yes the bad behavior still exists.
What can be done is already being done. Treat people by the content of their character not the color of their skin. Learn it live it... when you see people that you have influence on not doing that, teach them that they are wrong.
It also means tempering the PC police. Firing someone because of a mistake, for example blurting a racial epithet, is not going to teach anything. To the contrary, it divides. Some people curse.. racial epithets can be curse words depending on how they are used. They should be bleeped just like all the other curse words, give the guy a stern look and move on.
Bingo. Could we agree that conservatives do a better job of that?
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Yes, good leadership helps a ton, thus to the point of "influence" on. If you don't have influence on someone... the story can fall on deaf ears. But a really good leader... he can move mountains of bad ingrains... Unfortunately a really bad leader can instill bad ingrains.Absolutely. I think that some kind of brave leadership is key here, whether it's from the political, religious or cultural realms, or (more likely) some combination therein.I know liberals that do it well too. I think many on the left and right have gone astray not because they don't do this, or because they don't want to do this, but rather because it is politically or religiously expedient to look the other way.Learn it live it... when you see people that you have influence on not doing that, teach them that they are wrong.Yes, when a NAZI shows up at a conservative rally it makes conservatives look bad. The same as happens when NAZIs show up at liberal rallies.Okay, let's look at that, and let's stipulate that most conservatives treat people as you say.Most conservatives treat people of other races than themselves without prejudice. They treat people by the content of their character not the color of their skin. Treating people of other races as "special" ... yeah that's what most democrats and racists do.
Can we agree that those who do not make conservatism an easier target? It certainly isn't difficult to see that the behavior still exists.
And if that's the case, what can be done internally, culturally, to minimize that?
.
So yes the bad behavior still exists.
What can be done is already being done. Treat people by the content of their character not the color of their skin. Learn it live it... when you see people that you have influence on not doing that, teach them that they are wrong.
It also means tempering the PC police. Firing someone because of a mistake, for example blurting a racial epithet, is not going to teach anything. To the contrary, it divides. Some people curse.. racial epithets can be curse words depending on how they are used. They should be bleeped just like all the other curse words, give the guy a stern look and move on.
Bingo. Could we agree that conservatives do a better job of that?
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Dr Seuss was a racist.Okay righties, first my epiphany: The PC Police has finally convinced me - as a result of their civil & thoughtful mix of personal insults, name-calling, deflection, distortion, cattiness, snark and general nastiness - that the poor race relations in this country are all your fault. I've always thought that this was an issue that both sides need to address, but evidently not.
Okay, let's proceed from that assumption. Here's my challenge to you: Let's take an honest and serious look at what conservatives can do to begin to mend fences and improve race relations in this country.
No finger-pointing, only mirror-gazing.
I'd start with the political class, which has to grow the balls to acknowledge that racism still exists (for whatever reason) and that expressions of racism should not be tolerated lightly. No, not to take the PC Police approach of trying to destroy anyone who says anything you don't like, but to be willing to say something and engage people like that in constructive conversation.
Next is the chattering class, the conservative media that stokes flames by refusing to challenge their listeners and readers to look in the mirror rather than point the finger. There has to be an admission that this type of behavior provides a net disservice to the conversation. And the political class almost certainly has to lead here, even at the risk of losing their cushy gubmit jobs.
Then, next is the echo chamber. Conservatives have to be willing to challenge themselves to step outside the standard rhetoric and admit it when they see or hear attitudes and behaviors that are destructive. Again, not to take the PC Police approach of attacks, intimidation and control, but to engage people in honest conversation, to be leaders, and not followers.
Okay, that's a start. The Left has convinced me, they are blameless and pristine. What do you think conservatives can do to improve race relations from their side only?
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Racial problems aren't any political parties' fault. If you look at history, racism's always been a thing. Dr. Seuss nailed it with the story about the things with stars on their bellies, and those without. Obvious differences in appearence as with ethnicity will always be a bone of contention. Even in all-monoethnic populations, people still find something to be bigoted about as seen recently in SE Asia with refugees seeking entry into a country they'd blend perfectly in as far as skin color and general appearence goes being refused. In that case it was religious discrimination, but it proves the point, even when you look the same, you still (as I said in that thread) find something to be a dick about.
its called taking responsibility for your actions and not trying to deflect to the actions of the other side. Its what I teach every Black child I have the chance to influence. Plan your own actions. Be proactive and fix what you control. Your enemy is your enemy and will be expected to attempt to harm you That wont change so stop talking about it.What interests me about threads like this is the assumption that only people on the right - or all of us according to some - have the ability to exhibit racist tendencies. One gets the feeling they actually believe there are no racist democrats anywhere. Which is utterly stupid.
