Muslim threats force out disabled teacher with dog

[ScreamingEagle]

But yet I'm more successful than you'll ever be. Curious.

Yeah? More successful at what? I'm curious.

 

[Dr Grump]

You are a perfect example of the breakdown and destruction of the Family and Society via gay "marriage".

How has society broken down due to Larkinn's upbringing? How has he destroyed the family? Plenty of families have crappy mothers and fathers who are not gay. You are beyond a bigot...you are a hateful bigot. A stupid one at that..

 

[jillian]

Yeah? More successful at what? I'm curious.

At life... based on every measurement that we use that defines success.

 

[José]

Originally posted by ScreamingEagle
You are a perfect example of the breakdown and destruction of the Family and Society via gay "marriage".

Let’s be reasonable here, Eagle.

“A perfect example of the breakdown and destruction of the Family and Society via gay marriage” would be a young man who was raped by one of his parents and developed psychological issues as a result of the abuse.

Larkin sounds like a psychologically steady young man and does not seem to fit the stereotype mentioned above by any stretch of the imagination.

Eagle, I’m gonna be honest with you:

I enjoy reading your posts on immigration issues. You never said anything about this issue I didn’t agree, at least in principle.

But your understanding of secularism and its role in modern western societies leaves much to be desired, to say the least.

 

[José]

Originally posted by Dr Grump
How has society broken down due to Larkinn's upbringing? How has he destroyed the family? Plenty of families have crappy mothers and fathers who are not gay. You are beyond a bigot...you are a hateful bigot. A stupid one at that..

Forget it, Grump.

There’s only one way to satisfy Eagle.

Build a time machine and send him back to seventeenth century Massachusetts when the state was a Christian theocracy so admirably described by Arthur Miller.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

How has society broken down due to Larkinn's upbringing? How has he destroyed the family? Plenty of families have crappy mothers and fathers who are not gay. You are beyond a bigot...you are a hateful bigot. A stupid one at that..

I see we have another "tolerant" liberal here…in other words, a true bigot….who hatefully slams anyone who disagrees with his pet views on the world.

If you cannot see how the Family and Society are breaking down here…I'd say you're the stupid one.

Let’s be reasonable here, Eagle.

“A perfect example of the breakdown and destruction of the Family and Society via gay marriage” would be a young man who was raped by one of his parents and developed psychological issues as a result of the abuse.

Larkin sounds like a psychologically steady young man and does not seem to fit the stereotype mentioned above by any stretch of the imagination.

Eagle, I’m gonna be honest with you:

I enjoy reading your posts on immigration issues. You never said anything about this issue I didn’t agree, at least in principle.

But your understanding of secularism and its role

Let's see here....

No father in Larkinn's life....breakdown of family
No paternal relatives to speak of.....breakdown of family
Raised by two lesbians considered to be "parents"...breakdown of family and society
Larkinn's an angry young man....breakdown of society
Larkinn is psychologically programmed to believe in gay life....breakdown of society
Larkinn has adopted the anti-religious views held by most ex-Christian gays...breakdown of society

I'm sure there are lots more ramifications but that's enough to paint the not-so-rosy picture....you don't need to have rape thrown in too...it's not a necessary prerequisite for the breakdown of family and society.

What is it about Secularism I don't understand?

 

[Larkinn]

No father in Larkinn's life....breakdown of family

So how is exactly being raised with 2 parents in a loving home a "break down of family"?

No paternal relatives to speak of.....breakdown of family

Because one must have paternal relatives, otherwise ones not a family?

Raised by two lesbians considered to be "parents"...breakdown of family and society

Try not to make your arguments so transparently circular.

Larkinn's an angry young man....breakdown of society

Wow, I caused societies breakdown all by my lonesome? Impressive.

You are an idiot.

 

[rayboyusmc]

Actually, it's not "one example" of intolerance. It's another example of the intolerance of the FAITH, not the people.

Anything like early christians burning witches?

Maybe, they are just a few centuries behind.

PS: How do you seperate the faith from the people who believe it?

 

[rayboyusmc]

Basic Beliefs of Islam
The teachings of Islam are comprised of both faith and duty (din). One branch of Muslim learning, "Tawhid", defines all that a man should believe, while the other branch, "Shari'a," prescribes everything that he should do. There is no priesthood and no sacraments. Except among the Sufis, Muslims receive instruction only from

those who consider themselves adequately learned in theology or law.

The basis for Islamic doctrine is found in the Qur'an (Koran). Muslims believe the Qur'an is the word of God, spoken by the angel Gabriel to Muhammad. The Qur'an was only in oral form while Muhammad was living, which means it was constantly interpreted by Muhammad and his disciples. It was written down in the caliphate of Abu Bakr. It alone is infallible and without error. The Qur'an is comprised of 114 surahs, or chapters, arranged from longest to shortest. For Muslims Muhammad was the last and most perfect of God's seven prophets or messengers to mankind.

In addition to the Qur'an, other documents are also referred to by followers of Islam. A number of additional sayings of Muhammad were complied in the Hadith ("tradition"). The Torat (of Moses), Suhuf (books of the prophets), Zabur (psalms of David), and the Injil (gospel of Jesus) are also studied and considered to be revelations, although they are believed to have been corrupted through time.

Six Articles of Faith
The six articles of faith are the main doctrines of Islam. All Muslims share beliefs in the following:

Allah. Like Judaism and Christianity, Islam believes there is one true Allah (The Arabic translation of the word God). Allah alone is the creator of all the universe.
Angels. Angels exist and interact with human lives. They are comprised of light, and each have different purposes or messages to bring to earth. Each man or woman has two angels who record his actions; one records good deeds, the other bad deeds.
Scripture. There are four inspired books, the Torah of Moses, the Psalms (Zabin) of David, the Gospel of Jesus Christ (Injil) and the Qur'an. All but the Qur'an have been interpreted and changed by Jews and Christians.
Prophets. God has spoken through numerous prophets throughout time. The six greatest are: Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad. Muhammad is the last and greatest of Allah's messengers.
Afterlife. On the last day there will be a time of resurrection and judgment. Those who follow Allah and Muhammad will go to Islamic heaven, or Paradise. Those who do not will go to hell.
Divine Creed.
The Five Pillars of Faith
The five pillars of faith are duties each Muslim performs to demonstrate his or her faith.

Testimony of Faith (Kalima)- One must state, "There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is the Prophet of Allah." publicly to become a Muslim.
Prayer (Salat)- Prayer must be done five times a day (upon rising, at noon, in mid-afternoon, after sunset, and before going to sleep) towards the direction of Mecca. The call to prayer is sounded by the muezzin (Muslim crier) from a tower (minaret) within the mosque.
Almsgiving (Zakat)- Muslims are legally required to give one-fortieth of their income to the needy. Since those whom alms are given are helping the giver achieve salvation, there is no sense of shame in receiving charity.
Fasting (Sawm- During the holy month of Ramadan, faithful Muslims fast from sunup to sundown each day. This develops self-control, devotion to God, and identity with the needy.
Pilgrimage (Hajj)- Each Muslim is expected to make the pilgrimage to Mecca at least once in their lifetime if they have the means to do it and are physically capable of the trip. It is an essential part of gaining salvation, so the old or infirm may send someone in their place. It involves a set of rituals and ceremonies.

http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/cultural/religion/islam/beliefs.html

 

[Dr Grump]

I see we have another "tolerant" liberal here…in other words, a true bigot….who hatefully slams anyone who disagrees with his pet views on the world.

If you cannot see how the Family and Society are breaking down here…I'd say you're the stupid one.

Oh right. Using your logic if I accused Hitler of being bigotted towards Jews, I'm the bigot for pointing out his bigotted behaviour? Who's stupid again...

No, I don't see how society can break down due ot Larkinn's parents being gay. Please point it out. Has it caused a depression? Are the police force and health services no longer working? Have they caused an increase in crime? Are sanitary workers no longer on the job? Have bridges collapsed and roads closed? Has the world's monetary system collapsed - all of these things due to gays?

As for family breakdowns, you know who the Phelps family is? How about the Menedez brothers? Remember that family? What about Laci Peterson's husband and that "family"? Gays have caused the breakdown in the family there?

You are not stupid, you are beyond that and I don't have the necessary adjective to describe it - the word probably hasn't been invented yet, but I'll have a crack.

Sceagle (pron. Ski - gal); adjective - somebody who is beyond stupid..

 

[ScreamingEagle]

So how is exactly being raised with 2 parents in a loving home a "break down of family"?

Because a biological family unit consists of a father and a mother…..not two mothers with one of them pretending to be a father.

Tell me....why is it liberals - who worship Nature so much - turn around and defy Nature?

Because one must have paternal relatives, otherwise ones not a family?

You have paternal relatives. It's a biological fact. Too bad you don't relate to them. But that's what happens with gay marriages…one's real family members get trashed and a substitute "family" takes place instead. That's breakdown of the original and natural family.

Wow, I caused societies breakdown all by my lonesome? Impressive.

You are a part of society. Your negativity chips away at society. Your anger is a symptom of the negative impact of gay marriage…stemming from the denial of your real father…..is your anger and the anger of other children of gays good for society? I think not.

 

[jillian]

Because a biological family unit consists of a father and a mother…..not two mothers with one of them pretending to be a father.

And I've learned that being a biological parent sometimes means absolutely nothing. Parenting is what matters. You even acknowledged that in your earlier post.

Tell me....why is it liberals - who worship Nature so much - turn around and defy Nature?

Homosexuality occurs naturally in nature... and IS natural. It just occurs with less frequency, same as blue eyes relative to brown or red hair relative to brown hair.

You have paternal relatives. It's a biological fact. Too bad you don't relate to them. But that's what happens with gay marriages…one's real family members get trashed and a substitute "family" takes place instead. That's breakdown of the original and natural family.

And? His family is a successful unit. But, mostly, WHY DO YOU CARE? He's happy. His parents are happy. His family is happy. Only someone who has no relation to him and couldn't give a flying whatever about him is concerned about it.

You are a part of society. Your negativity chips away at society. Your anger is a symptom of the negative impact of gay marriage…stemming from the denial of your real father…..is your anger and the anger of other children of gays good for society? I think not.

You think you project yourself as a happy, peaceful person? LOL...

I'm guessing he's a lot happier with his life than you are because he's not busy worrying about people's families who have absolutely no affect on him.

 

[AllieBaba]

At life... based on every measurement that we use that defines success.

"We" = "you". Kindly don't speak for me, because I'm fairly certain that we have different measures for success. I consider people successful if they are responsible for themselves, if they work hard at whatever they do, if they respect others, but are still brave enough to stand up for themselves and the truth.

I don't know SE, but I know what your idea of "success" is. It's being privileged, confident in the assurance you have never made a mistake in your life (and if you have, unable to admit it) and certain that you are better than those around you. Particularly if they come from a background different from your own. "Success" to you is being considered "better" than the people you disdain...

 

[jillian]

"We" = "you". Kindly don't speak for me, because I'm fairly certain that we have different measures for success. I consider people successful if they are responsible for themselves, if they work hard at whatever they do, if they respect others, but are still brave enough to stand up for themselves and the truth.

I don't know SE, but I know what your idea of "success" is. It's being privileged, confident in the assurance you have never made a mistake in your life (and if you have, unable to admit it) and certain that you are better than those around you. Particularly if they come from a background different from your own. "Success" to you is being considered "better" than the people you disdain...

And I'd say you're a moron who hasn't a clue what measurements I use, so don't presume to analyze it. But once again, it's cute how you interfere in things you have nothing to do with just to take pot shots at me.

You must have nothing better to do. I feel sorry for you. Seriously. I could have told you you were an imbecile on at least four different threads today, you simply weren't worth my time.

Have a good day.

 

[AllieBaba]

Oh, but you're okay to measure the success of others on the board.

You betcha. Hypocritical, lying bitch. Good day. BTW, your post above proves every single thing I said.
Musta stung a little for you to let your slip show so....

 

[jillian]

Oh, but you're okay to measure the success of others on the board.

You betcha. Hypocritical, lying bitch. Good day.

lol... from the liar who's said she's done how many different jobs? had how many different ages? lived on welfare? "defended lawyers in court"?

imbecile. lol.. you just have issues. you should really address them.

personally, i don't care how you present yourself. but you might not want to be judging me. like I keep saying, I have no quarrel with my life, but i can assure you that I've worked my ass off and earned absolutely everything I have. And just because no one's ever victimized me doesn't give you some right to be holier than thou and throw around your ignorant little insults.

 

[AllieBaba]

I defended lawyers in court? When on earth did I say that?

Want me to run down all my jobs again, because I can..... I'm sorry if you feel threatened by the fact that I've actually lived a life that you generally only get to talk "about" and not "to," and don't fit the little slot you have for the abused, downtrodden, diseased, stupid masses......

I've worked hard too, honey. Undoubtedly harder than you. I've actually worked out there in the real world, among real people...which you presume to talk about and talk for. But don't like when they actually speak for themselves. And I don't presume that just because somebody got an easy start in life they're stupid. YOu, on the other hand, obviously believe that people who come from a different background than yourself are somehow beholden to you and should be grateful that you are a socialist at heart, and want to provide and think for us, and tell us what is right and wrong.

Sorry, it doesn't work that way. I'm not beholden to you for anything, you are in no way better than me or anybody else on this board, and in fact, your personality shines through. You think I'm stupid (how unimaginative) but I think you're conceited, self-absorbed, and sanctimonious. I think you're sheltered and snobbish as well. Based upon your posts. I don't mind that you're all those things, until you presume to proclaim the success of failure of posters on a message board based upon nothing but your own bias, and skewed and narrow view of the world.

Regarding judging, you certainly freely throw your little judgments around. I guess you're "better qualified" because you're just better in every way. Look through any thread you're in. When you run out of things to say, that's what you do. So you're just being hypocritical when you whine about it.

Big surprise. Snort.

 

[Dr Grump]

until you presume to proclaim the success of failure of posters on a message board based upon nothing but your own bias, and skewed and narrow view of the world.

You saying this is a akin to Idi Amin telling Mother Theresa she's a meglomaniac. Allie, you are by far one of the most judgemental, arrogant, egocentric people on these boards. Pull your head in, or take the hits. Don't blame others for your foiables..

 

[AllieBaba]

A akin?
Foiables?

I take hits just fine, thanks. And I point out bullshit when I see it, and I see it every time Jillian opens up her hole and spews her crap. She sees success as it pertains to class (with her presumption being that she's the upper, of course) and it makes me, and it should make everyone else, nauseous.

 

[Dr Grump]

A akin?
Foiables?

I take hits just fine, thanks. And I point out bullshit when I see it, and I see it every time Jillian opens up her hole and spews her crap. She sees success as it pertains to class (with her presumption being that she's the upper, of course) and it makes me, and it should make everyone else, nauseous.

Maybe she hits too close to the bone with you. You have no idea how she measures success..

PS: Pointing out typos is a sure sign you are losing the argument..