Muslim terrorist at Cartoon event...got gun through Fast and Furious program, they gave him the gun.

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The muslim terrorist who tried to murder people at the draw mohammed cartoon event got his gun at a gun store that was under the control of obama's Fast and Furious gun dealer program...which forced American gun dealers to sell guns illegally to known straw purchasers....this guy had drug arrests, lied on his NICS application and was given a pass by obama's Fast and Furious program.....


Garland TX Muhammad Cartoon Shooter Bought Fast Furious Gun - The Truth About Guns


At the time, Lone Wolf Trading Co. was known among gun smugglers for selling illegal firearms. And with Soofi’s history of misdemeanor drug and assault charges, there was a chance his purchase might raise red flags in the federal screening process.

Inside the store, he fudged some facts on the form required of would-be gun buyers.

Fudged? Translation: he lied on his 4473 form and got his gun.

It’s been a rough go for the NICS check system lately, no? There was Dylann Roof and his drug bust. And the involuntarily committed John Houser. Now this:

Soofi’s attempt to buy a gun caught the attention of authorities, who slapped a seven-day hold on the transaction, according to his Feb. 24, 2010, firearms transaction record, which was reviewed by the Los Angeles Times. Then, for reasons that remain unclear, the hold was lifted after 24 hours, and Soofi got the 9-millimeter.

So the ATF smelled a rat, but still let Soofi have the gun anyway. We already know that Justice doesn’t have time to prosecute anyone who lies on their 4473 background check form. So tell us again why we go through that particular security theater exercise again.

It’s almost as if the government isn’t capable of reliably maintaining and using a simple data base and background check system. That, or Soofi was deliberately allowed to buy the gun despite his criminal history as part of the feds’ “sting operation.” Which was it? You make the call. Neither reflects particularly well on anyone in the .gov’s Rube Goldberg regulatory apparatus.

The FBI so far has refused to release any details, including serial numbers, about the weapons used in Garland by Soofi and (Elton) Simpson. Senate investigators are now pressing law enforcement agencies for answers, raising the chilling possibility that a gun sold during the botched Fast and Furious operation ended up being used in a terrorist attack against Americans.

So we don’t know for sure if Soofi used the Fast & Furious gun he illegally bought during the Garland attack. But if he didn’t, why would the FBI be so slow to release the details of the firearms used? Don’t expect answers any time soon.
 
"So we don’t know for sure if Soofi used the Fast & Furious gun he illegally bought during the Garland attack. But if he didn’t, why would the FBI be so slow to release the details of the firearms used? Don’t expect answers any time soon."

From your own post.
 
"So we don’t know for sure if Soofi used the Fast & Furious gun he illegally bought during the Garland attack. But if he didn’t, why would the FBI be so slow to release the details of the firearms used? Don’t expect answers any time soon."

From your own post.


Yep...I made sure to put that in......

At the time, Lone Wolf Trading Co. was known among gun smugglers for selling illegal firearms. And with Soofi’s history of misdemeanor drug and assault charges, there was a chance his purchase might raise red flags in the federal screening process.

Inside the store, he fudged some facts on the form required of would-be gun buyers.

Fudged? Translation: he lied on his 4473 form and got his gun.


And at the time of Fast and Furious he was caught fudging his documents....and he got the gun anyway....at and actual gun store covered by Fast and Furious........
 
obama's Fast and Furious program,

gun walking is not new or just Oblama's baby...


The program that sent thousands of guns to Mexico is....Bush tried a program lost a few guns and ended it......losing the guns was obama's goal.....so they would then be found in raids and at murder sites......
 
obama's Fast and Furious program,

gun walking is not new or just Oblama's baby...


So here you go....

Fast Furious Was . . . Bush s Fault National Review Online

It was left to Republican Senators Charles Grassley and John Cornyn to lay bare some crucial distinctions between to two ATF operations. Wide Receiver actually involved not gun-walking but controlled delivery.

Unlike gun-walking, which seems (for good reason) to have been unheard of until Fast & Furious, controlled delivery is a very common law enforcement tactic. Basically, the agents know the bad guys have negotiated a deal to acquire some commodity that is either illegal itself (e.g., heroin, child porn) or illegal for them to have/use (e.g., guns, corporate secrets). The agents allow the transfer to happen under circumstances where they are in control — i.e., they are on the scene conducting surveillance of the transfer, and sometimes even participating undercover in the transfer.

As soon as the transfer takes place, they can descend on the suspects, make arrests, and seize the commodity in question — all of which makes for powerful evidence of guilt.

Senator Schumer’s drawing of an equivalence between “tracing” in a controlled-delivery situation and “tracing” in Fast & Furious is laughable. In a controlled delivery firearms case, guns are traced in the sense that agents closely and physically follow them — they don’t just note the serial numbers or other identifying markers.

The agents are thus able to trace the precise path of the guns from, say, American dealers to straw purchasers to Mexican buyers.

To the contrary, Fast & Furious involved uncontrolled deliveries — of thousands of weapons. It was an utterly heedless program in which the feds allowed these guns to be sold to straw purchasers — often leaning on reluctant gun dealers to make the sales. The straw purchasers were not followed by close physical surveillance; they were freely permitted to bulk transfer the guns to, among others, Mexican drug gangs and other violent criminals — with no agents on hand to swoop in, make arrests, and grab the firearms.


The inevitable result of this was that the guns have been used (and will continue to be used) in many crimes, including the murder of Brian Terry, a U.S. border patrol agent.
 
obama's Fast and Furious program,

gun walking is not new or just Oblama's baby...


The program that sent thousands of guns to Mexico is....Bush tried a program lost a few guns and ended it......losing the guns was obama's goal.....so they would then be found in raids and at murder sites......
The ATF was running the program, not Oblama or Bush, during Bush 300 firearms were not really lost, they were not followed...
 
obama's Fast and Furious program,

gun walking is not new or just Oblama's baby...


The program that sent thousands of guns to Mexico is....Bush tried a program lost a few guns and ended it......losing the guns was obama's goal.....so they would then be found in raids and at murder sites......
The ATF was running the program, not Oblama or Bush, during Bush 300 firearms were not really lost, they were not followed...
Bush gave guns to murdering drug cartels, that's terrible. Oh wait, it was the ATF under Bush, and we're not really sure where the damn guns went because, we're morons...
 
obama's Fast and Furious program,

gun walking is not new or just Oblama's baby...


The program that sent thousands of guns to Mexico is....Bush tried a program lost a few guns and ended it......losing the guns was obama's goal.....so they would then be found in raids and at murder sites......
The ATF was running the program, not Oblama or Bush, during Bush 300 firearms were not really lost, they were not followed...
Bush gave guns to murdering drug cartels, that's terrible. Oh wait, it was the ATF under Bush, and we're not really sure where the damn guns went because, we're morons...


Sorry, the two programs were not alike...and the thousands of guns given to cartels by obama and holder were used to kill Mexican citizens in the thousands....
 
obama's Fast and Furious program,

gun walking is not new or just Oblama's baby...


The program that sent thousands of guns to Mexico is....Bush tried a program lost a few guns and ended it......losing the guns was obama's goal.....so they would then be found in raids and at murder sites......
The ATF was running the program, not Oblama or Bush, during Bush 300 firearms were not really lost, they were not followed...
Bush gave guns to murdering drug cartels, that's terrible. Oh wait, it was the ATF under Bush, and we're not really sure where the damn guns went because, we're morons...


Sorry, the two programs were not alike...and the thousands of guns given to cartels by obama and holder were used to kill Mexican citizens in the thousands....
Well let's see, both programs let guns walk, and both programs were run by the ATF. Yep, I see the difference now, or not.
 
obama's Fast and Furious program,

gun walking is not new or just Oblama's baby...


The program that sent thousands of guns to Mexico is....Bush tried a program lost a few guns and ended it......losing the guns was obama's goal.....so they would then be found in raids and at murder sites......
The ATF was running the program, not Oblama or Bush, during Bush 300 firearms were not really lost, they were not followed...
Bush gave guns to murdering drug cartels, that's terrible. Oh wait, it was the ATF under Bush, and we're not really sure where the damn guns went because, we're morons...


Sorry, the two programs were not alike...and the thousands of guns given to cartels by obama and holder were used to kill Mexican citizens in the thousands....
Well let's see, both programs let guns walk, and both programs were run by the ATF. Yep, I see the difference now, or not.


Sorry, there is no comparison between the two programs....obama and holder let thousands of guns flow into the hands of drug cartels....knowing they were going there with no controls at all....

ATF gunwalking scandal - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


The operation began on October 31, 2009, when a local gun store reported to the Phoenix ATF that four individuals had purchased multiple AK47 style rifles.[42] In November 2009, the Phoenix office's Group VII, which would be the lead investigative group in Fast and Furious, began to follow a prolific gun trafficker. He had bought 34 firearms in 24 days, and he and his associates bought 212 more in the next month. The case soon grew to over two dozen straw purchasers, the most prolific of which would ultimately buy more than 600 weapons.[3][5][43] The effort would come to be called Operation Fast and Furious for the successful film franchise, because some of the suspects under investigation operated out of an auto repair store andstreet raced.[3]

Under the previous Operation Wide Receiver, there had been a formal ATF contract with the cooperating gun dealer and efforts were made to involve the ATF Mexico City Office (MCO) and Mexican law enforcement. Under Operation Fast and Furious, at Newell's insistence the cooperating gun dealers did not have contracts with ATF, and MCO and Mexican police were left in the dark.[1]
 
The program that sent thousands of guns to Mexico is....Bush tried a program lost a few guns and ended it......losing the guns was obama's goal.....so they would then be found in raids and at murder sites......
The ATF was running the program, not Oblama or Bush, during Bush 300 firearms were not really lost, they were not followed...
Bush gave guns to murdering drug cartels, that's terrible. Oh wait, it was the ATF under Bush, and we're not really sure where the damn guns went because, we're morons...


Sorry, the two programs were not alike...and the thousands of guns given to cartels by obama and holder were used to kill Mexican citizens in the thousands....
Well let's see, both programs let guns walk, and both programs were run by the ATF. Yep, I see the difference now, or not.


Sorry, there is no comparison between the two programs....obama and holder let thousands of guns flow into the hands of drug cartels....knowing they were going there with no controls at all....

ATF gunwalking scandal - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
I know the programs little friend, which is why I know your partisan ranting is just that. Even the title of thread is a flat out lie, and said lie is at the bottom of the OP no less.
 
And more....


The dealers involved became concerned as months went by and the same individuals they reported to ATF as suspected straw purchasers returned and repeatedly bought identical weapons. As they later told the DOJ OIG, their previous experience was that after they reported a suspected straw to ATF, they did not see the straw again unless subpoenaed to testify against the straw at trial.[1] One cooperating dealer expressed his concerns in a series of emails in April and June 2010 to GS David Voth, who assured the dealer that ATF was monitoring the suspects using a variety of techniques that he could not discuss in detail.[14]

The tactic of letting guns walk, rather than interdicting them and arresting the buyers, led to controversy within the ATF.[5][46] As the case continued, several members of Group VII, including John Dodson and Olindo Casa, became increasingly upset at the tactic of allowing guns to walk. Their standard Project Gunrunner training was to follow the straw purchasers to the hand-off to the cartel buyers, then arrest both parties and seize the guns. But according to Dodson, they watched guns being bought illegally and stashed on a daily basis, while their supervisors, including David Voth and Hope MacAllister, prevented the agents from intervening.[3]

However, other accounts of the operation insist that ATF agents were prevented from intervening not by ATF officials, but rather by federal prosecutors with the Attorney General's office, who were unsure of whether the agents had sufficient evidence to arrest suspected straw-buyers.
 
The ATF was running the program, not Oblama or Bush, during Bush 300 firearms were not really lost, they were not followed...
Bush gave guns to murdering drug cartels, that's terrible. Oh wait, it was the ATF under Bush, and we're not really sure where the damn guns went because, we're morons...


Sorry, the two programs were not alike...and the thousands of guns given to cartels by obama and holder were used to kill Mexican citizens in the thousands....
Well let's see, both programs let guns walk, and both programs were run by the ATF. Yep, I see the difference now, or not.


Sorry, there is no comparison between the two programs....obama and holder let thousands of guns flow into the hands of drug cartels....knowing they were going there with no controls at all....

ATF gunwalking scandal - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
I know the programs little friend, which is why I know your partisan ranting is just that. Even the title of thread is a flat out lie, and said lie is at the bottom of the OP no less.


The lie is in the details......and you again prove you can never ever trust anti gun extremists...because they lie...all the time to push their agenda.....
 

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