More people on social security disability......

[bigrebnc1775]

I am not back peddling. The rules changed in 1984 that made it easier to get benefits. The number of people on disability increased IMMEDIATELY and ever since.

Obama had nothing to do with any changes to eligibility rules. There has been NO CHANGE TO THE RULES under Obama.

how can the rules change in 1984 when it was enacted in 1984?

The CHANGES were enacted in 1984.

From the study in YOUR link:

Since its introduction in 1956, the DI program has insured workers against the risk of being unable to work due to disability.

From a link in the study YOU posted:

The Growth in the Social Security Disability Rolls: A Fiscal Crisis Unfolding

While aggregate population health has improved by most measures in recent decades, the rate of SSDI receipt among nonelderly adults has nearly doubled since 1984. We project that SSDI receipt will rise by an additional seventy percent before reaching a steady state rate of approximately 6.5 percent of adults between the ages of 25 and 64, with cash benefit payments exceeding $150 billion annually (excluding Medicare).

We trace the rapid expansion of SSDI to: (1) congressional reforms to disability screening in 1984 that enabled workers with low mortality disorders such as back pain, arthritis and mental illness to more readily qualify for benefits; (2) a rise in the after-tax DI income replacement rate, which strengthened the incentives for workers to seek benefits; (3) and a rapid increase in female labor force participation that expanded the pool of insured workers. Notably, the aging of the baby boom generation has contributed little to the growth of SSDI to date.

Obama Administration’s Achievements (Thus Far) » Obama's Achievements Center
Social Security Disability Applicant Access to Professional Representation Act of 2010

The Affordable Care Act?s Early Retiree Reinsurance Program

 

[uscitizen]

Folks, Bigreb is NEVER wrong.
Just ask him.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Folks, Bigreb is NEVER wrong.
Just ask him.

Nor is us citizen just ask him.

 

[Bfgrn]

how can the rules change in 1984 when it was enacted in 1984?

The CHANGES were enacted in 1984.

From the study in YOUR link:

Since its introduction in 1956, the DI program has insured workers against the risk of being unable to work due to disability.

From a link in the study YOU posted:

The Growth in the Social Security Disability Rolls: A Fiscal Crisis Unfolding

While aggregate population health has improved by most measures in recent decades, the rate of SSDI receipt among nonelderly adults has nearly doubled since 1984. We project that SSDI receipt will rise by an additional seventy percent before reaching a steady state rate of approximately 6.5 percent of adults between the ages of 25 and 64, with cash benefit payments exceeding $150 billion annually (excluding Medicare).

We trace the rapid expansion of SSDI to: (1) congressional reforms to disability screening in 1984 that enabled workers with low mortality disorders such as back pain, arthritis and mental illness to more readily qualify for benefits; (2) a rise in the after-tax DI income replacement rate, which strengthened the incentives for workers to seek benefits; (3) and a rapid increase in female labor force participation that expanded the pool of insured workers. Notably, the aging of the baby boom generation has contributed little to the growth of SSDI to date.

Obama Administration’s Achievements (Thus Far) » Obama's Achievements Center
Social Security Disability Applicant Access to Professional Representation Act of 2010

The Affordable Care Act?s Early Retiree Reinsurance Program

(Social Security Disability Applicant Access to Professional Representation Act of 2010)

Where in the link you provided is this listed? Now tell me what it does?

The Affordable Care Act’s Early Retiree Reinsurance Program

There has been a tremendous amount of interest from businesses and organizations from across the country since the Early Retiree Reinsurance Program was announced just a few months ago in April. The Department of Health and Human Services has received applications from more than 50 percent of Fortune 500 companies, all major unions, and government entities in all 50 States and the District of Columbia.

In the first few months of the program, nearly 3,000 applications were approved representing a wide range of organizations that are interested in support from the Affordable Care Act to provide health care coverage to their early retirees.

Gee, I thought Obama was anti business???

 

[uscitizen]

Folks, Bigreb is NEVER wrong.
Just ask him.

Nor is us citizen just ask him.

Ohh I have been wrong from time to time.
I am man enough to admit to it though.
It only took me 2-3 months to see thru Obama for what he was instead of what he said he was.

 

[edthecynic]

how can the rules change in 1984 when it was enacted in 1984?

The CHANGES were enacted in 1984.

From the study in YOUR link:

Since its introduction in 1956, the DI program has insured workers against the risk of being unable to work due to disability.

From a link in the study YOU posted:

The Growth in the Social Security Disability Rolls: A Fiscal Crisis Unfolding

While aggregate population health has improved by most measures in recent decades, the rate of SSDI receipt among nonelderly adults has nearly doubled since 1984. We project that SSDI receipt will rise by an additional seventy percent before reaching a steady state rate of approximately 6.5 percent of adults between the ages of 25 and 64, with cash benefit payments exceeding $150 billion annually (excluding Medicare).

We trace the rapid expansion of SSDI to: (1) congressional reforms to disability screening in 1984 that enabled workers with low mortality disorders such as back pain, arthritis and mental illness to more readily qualify for benefits; (2) a rise in the after-tax DI income replacement rate, which strengthened the incentives for workers to seek benefits; (3) and a rapid increase in female labor force participation that expanded the pool of insured workers. Notably, the aging of the baby boom generation has contributed little to the growth of SSDI to date.

Obama Administration’s Achievements (Thus Far) » Obama's Achievements Center
Social Security Disability Applicant Access to Professional Representation Act of 2010

Dang, you are desperate! This has nothing to do with eligibility requirements.

Bill Text - 111th Congress (2009-2010) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
Social Security Disability Applicant Access to Professional Representation Act of 2010

An Act

To provide for permanent extension of the attorney fee withholding procedures under title II of the Social Security Act to title XVI of such Act, and to provide for permanent extension of such procedures under titles II and XVI of such Act to qualified non-attorney representatives.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The CHANGES were enacted in 1984.

From the study in YOUR link:

Since its introduction in 1956, the DI program has insured workers against the risk of being unable to work due to disability.

From a link in the study YOU posted:

The Growth in the Social Security Disability Rolls: A Fiscal Crisis Unfolding

While aggregate population health has improved by most measures in recent decades, the rate of SSDI receipt among nonelderly adults has nearly doubled since 1984. We project that SSDI receipt will rise by an additional seventy percent before reaching a steady state rate of approximately 6.5 percent of adults between the ages of 25 and 64, with cash benefit payments exceeding $150 billion annually (excluding Medicare).

We trace the rapid expansion of SSDI to: (1) congressional reforms to disability screening in 1984 that enabled workers with low mortality disorders such as back pain, arthritis and mental illness to more readily qualify for benefits; (2) a rise in the after-tax DI income replacement rate, which strengthened the incentives for workers to seek benefits; (3) and a rapid increase in female labor force participation that expanded the pool of insured workers. Notably, the aging of the baby boom generation has contributed little to the growth of SSDI to date.

Obama Administration’s Achievements (Thus Far) » Obama's Achievements Center
Social Security Disability Applicant Access to Professional Representation Act of 2010

Dang, you are desperate! This has nothing to do with eligibility requirements.

Bill Text - 111th Congress (2009-2010) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
Social Security Disability Applicant Access to Professional Representation Act of 2010

An Act

To provide for permanent extension of the attorney fee withholding procedures under title II of the Social Security Act to title XVI of such Act, and to provide for permanent extension of such procedures under titles II and XVI of such Act to qualified non-attorney representatives.

How in the fuck do you know what that congress did? But of course you can't see it because it wasn't Bush.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Folks, Bigreb is NEVER wrong.
Just ask him.

Nor is us citizen just ask him.

Ohh I have been wrong from time to time.
I am man enough to admit to it though.
It only took me 2-3 months to see thru Obama for what he was instead of what he said he was.

Yet, you're still a supporter of his.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The CHANGES were enacted in 1984.

From the study in YOUR link:

Since its introduction in 1956, the DI program has insured workers against the risk of being unable to work due to disability.

From a link in the study YOU posted:

The Growth in the Social Security Disability Rolls: A Fiscal Crisis Unfolding

While aggregate population health has improved by most measures in recent decades, the rate of SSDI receipt among nonelderly adults has nearly doubled since 1984. We project that SSDI receipt will rise by an additional seventy percent before reaching a steady state rate of approximately 6.5 percent of adults between the ages of 25 and 64, with cash benefit payments exceeding $150 billion annually (excluding Medicare).

We trace the rapid expansion of SSDI to: (1) congressional reforms to disability screening in 1984 that enabled workers with low mortality disorders such as back pain, arthritis and mental illness to more readily qualify for benefits; (2) a rise in the after-tax DI income replacement rate, which strengthened the incentives for workers to seek benefits; (3) and a rapid increase in female labor force participation that expanded the pool of insured workers. Notably, the aging of the baby boom generation has contributed little to the growth of SSDI to date.

Obama Administration’s Achievements (Thus Far) » Obama's Achievements Center
Social Security Disability Applicant Access to Professional Representation Act of 2010

The Affordable Care Act?s Early Retiree Reinsurance Program

(Social Security Disability Applicant Access to Professional Representation Act of 2010)

Where in the link you provided is this listed? Now tell me what it does?

The Affordable Care Act’s Early Retiree Reinsurance Program

There has been a tremendous amount of interest from businesses and organizations from across the country since the Early Retiree Reinsurance Program was announced just a few months ago in April. The Department of Health and Human Services has received applications from more than 50 percent of Fortune 500 companies, all major unions, and government entities in all 50 States and the District of Columbia.

In the first few months of the program, nearly 3,000 applications were approved representing a wide range of organizations that are interested in support from the Affordable Care Act to provide health care coverage to their early retirees.

Gee, I thought Obama was anti business???

How in the fuck do you know what that congress did? But of course you can't see it because it wasn't Bush.
But obama did do something to change how social security disability is handle did he not?

 

[edthecynic]

Obama Administration’s Achievements (Thus Far) » Obama's Achievements Center
Social Security Disability Applicant Access to Professional Representation Act of 2010

Dang, you are desperate! This has nothing to do with eligibility requirements.

Bill Text - 111th Congress (2009-2010) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
Social Security Disability Applicant Access to Professional Representation Act of 2010

An Act

To provide for permanent extension of the attorney fee withholding procedures under title II of the Social Security Act to title XVI of such Act, and to provide for permanent extension of such procedures under titles II and XVI of such Act to qualified non-attorney representatives.

How in the fuck do you know what that congress did? But of course you can't see it because it wasn't Bush.

YOU'RE the one who claimed Obama changed the eligibility requirements in 2010 and 2011, so how did YOU know what Congress did?

Unlike YOU, I actually did some research which is why I challenged you to post a link knowing you couldn't!!! When you admit you made up that crap about the law changing in 2010 and 2011 I'll post how I found out you are full of shit.

 

[Bfgrn]

Obama Administration’s Achievements (Thus Far) » Obama's Achievements Center
Social Security Disability Applicant Access to Professional Representation Act of 2010

The Affordable Care Act?s Early Retiree Reinsurance Program

(Social Security Disability Applicant Access to Professional Representation Act of 2010)

Where in the link you provided is this listed? Now tell me what it does?

The Affordable Care Act’s Early Retiree Reinsurance Program

There has been a tremendous amount of interest from businesses and organizations from across the country since the Early Retiree Reinsurance Program was announced just a few months ago in April. The Department of Health and Human Services has received applications from more than 50 percent of Fortune 500 companies, all major unions, and government entities in all 50 States and the District of Columbia.

In the first few months of the program, nearly 3,000 applications were approved representing a wide range of organizations that are interested in support from the Affordable Care Act to provide health care coverage to their early retirees.

Gee, I thought Obama was anti business???

How in the fuck do you know what that congress did? But of course you can't see it because it wasn't Bush.
But obama did do something to change how social security disability is handle did he not?

Actually, it WAS Bush...LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!

Senate Passes Social Security Disability Applicants’ Access to Professional Representation Act

Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-MT) and Ranking Member Chuck Grassley (R-IA) applauded the Senate’s unanimous passage yesterday “of a bill to make permanent two successful demonstration programs that provide incentives for qualified professionals to represent Americans with disabilities in claims for Social Security Disability and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits,” according to a press release.

In the past, attorneys could request to collect their fees directly from the Social Security Administration (SSA). But the direct payment was available only to attorneys, not to non-attorney representatives, and only for Social Security claims, not for SSI claims. This deterred some representatives from pursuing these cases and made it difficult for some claimants to access the qualified representation they needed.

The Social Security Protection Act of 2004 created two demonstration projects to expand eligibility for direct payments to qualified non-attorney representatives and SSI claims. To qualify as a professional representative, individuals must pass an exam written and administered by the Commissioner of Social Security, meet certain educational and professional liability insurance requirements and pass a criminal background check. Both programs have proven successful at increasing claimants’ access to qualified, professional representation.

The Social Security Disability Applicants’ Access to Professional Representation Act (H.R. 4532) “makes these two successful projects permanent, streamlining the compensation process and providing the certainty representatives need to pursue these cases.”

It’s been passed in the House, so the bill now goes to President Obama for his signature.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

(Social Security Disability Applicant Access to Professional Representation Act of 2010)

Where in the link you provided is this listed? Now tell me what it does?

The Affordable Care Act’s Early Retiree Reinsurance Program

There has been a tremendous amount of interest from businesses and organizations from across the country since the Early Retiree Reinsurance Program was announced just a few months ago in April. The Department of Health and Human Services has received applications from more than 50 percent of Fortune 500 companies, all major unions, and government entities in all 50 States and the District of Columbia.

In the first few months of the program, nearly 3,000 applications were approved representing a wide range of organizations that are interested in support from the Affordable Care Act to provide health care coverage to their early retirees.

Gee, I thought Obama was anti business???

How in the fuck do you know what that congress did? But of course you can't see it because it wasn't Bush.
But obama did do something to change how social security disability is handle did he not?

Actually, it WAS Bush...LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!

Senate Passes Social Security Disability Applicants’ Access to Professional Representation Act

Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-MT) and Ranking Member Chuck Grassley (R-IA) applauded the Senate’s unanimous passage yesterday “of a bill to make permanent two successful demonstration programs that provide incentives for qualified professionals to represent Americans with disabilities in claims for Social Security Disability and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits,” according to a press release.

In the past, attorneys could request to collect their fees directly from the Social Security Administration (SSA). But the direct payment was available only to attorneys, not to non-attorney representatives, and only for Social Security claims, not for SSI claims. This deterred some representatives from pursuing these cases and made it difficult for some claimants to access the qualified representation they needed.

The Social Security Protection Act of 2004 created two demonstration projects to expand eligibility for direct payments to qualified non-attorney representatives and SSI claims. To qualify as a professional representative, individuals must pass an exam written and administered by the Commissioner of Social Security, meet certain educational and professional liability insurance requirements and pass a criminal background check. Both programs have proven successful at increasing claimants’ access to qualified, professional representation.

The Social Security Disability Applicants’ Access to Professional Representation Act (H.R. 4532) “makes these two successful projects permanent, streamlining the compensation process and providing the certainty representatives need to pursue these cases.”

It’s been passed in the House, so the bill now goes to President Obama for his signature.

I don't think Bush was in office in 2010, even though I know you want to blame him.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Dang, you are desperate! This has nothing to do with eligibility requirements.

How in the fuck do you know what that congress did? But of course you can't see it because it wasn't Bush.

YOU'RE the one who claimed Obama changed the eligibility requirements in 2010 and 2011, so how did YOU know what Congress did?

Unlike YOU, I actually did some research which is why I challenged you to post a link knowing you couldn't!!! When you admit you made up that crap about the law changing in 2010 and 2011 I'll post how I found out you are full of shit.

shit face the only one full of shit is you.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

To those who rather attack me for what I said are forgetting what the source said

The economy created just 80,000 jobs in June, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Friday. But that same month, 85,000 workers left the workforce entirely to enroll in the Social Security Disability Insurance program, according to the Social Security Administration.
The disability ranks have outpaced job growth throughout President Obama's recovery. While the economy has created 2.6 million jobs since June 2009, fully 3.1 million workers signed up for disability benefits.

Now think on that for a second.

 

[edthecynic]

How in the fuck do you know what that congress did? But of course you can't see it because it wasn't Bush.

YOU'RE the one who claimed Obama changed the eligibility requirements in 2010 and 2011, so how did YOU know what Congress did?

Unlike YOU, I actually did some research which is why I challenged you to post a link knowing you couldn't!!! When you admit you made up that crap about the law changing in 2010 and 2011 I'll post how I found out you are full of shit.

shit face the only one full of shit is you.

See I knew you couldn't back up your lie!
thank you.

 

[edthecynic]

To those who rather attack me for what I said are forgetting what the source said

The economy created just 80,000 jobs in June, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Friday. But that same month, 85,000 workers left the workforce entirely to enroll in the Social Security Disability Insurance program, according to the Social Security Administration.
The disability ranks have outpaced job growth throughout President Obama's recovery. While the economy has created 2.6 million jobs since June 2009, fully 3.1 million workers signed up for disability benefits.

Now think on that for a second.

Yeah, it takes the worst kind of scum sucking bastard to attack the disabled which is exactly why CON$ervoFascist scum do it!!!

 

[bigrebnc1775]

To those who rather attack me for what I said are forgetting what the source said

The economy created just 80,000 jobs in June, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Friday. But that same month, 85,000 workers left the workforce entirely to enroll in the Social Security Disability Insurance program, according to the Social Security Administration.
The disability ranks have outpaced job growth throughout President Obama's recovery. While the economy has created 2.6 million jobs since June 2009, fully 3.1 million workers signed up for disability benefits.

Now think on that for a second.

Yeah, it takes the worst kind of scum sucking bastard to attack the disabled which is exactly why CON$ervoFascist scum do it!!!

I only attack obama. Posting the numbers of new disability numbers is not attacking anyone unless your super stupid to think so.

 

[uscitizen]

Nor is us citizen just ask him.

Ohh I have been wrong from time to time.
I am man enough to admit to it though.
It only took me 2-3 months to see thru Obama for what he was instead of what he said he was.

Yet, you're still a supporter of his.

Where the heck did you get that from?
Out of your butt where most of your "wisdom" comes from?

I have made it very clear to those who can understand basic context that I do not support either candidate in this election.

 

[edthecynic]

To those who rather attack me for what I said are forgetting what the source said
Now think on that for a second.

Yeah, it takes the worst kind of scum sucking bastard to attack the disabled which is exactly why CON$ervoFascist scum do it!!!

I only attack obama. Posting the numbers of new disability numbers is not attacking anyone unless your super stupid to think so.

Bullshit!
CON$ervoFascist scum are accusing the disabled of faking a disability after their UE runs out, you lying fucking POS.

July 03, 2012
RUSH: I don't know what an average monthly benefit is. But all it takes to qualify for a disability now is a half-decent lawyer to make the case for you

 

[Bfgrn]

How in the fuck do you know what that congress did? But of course you can't see it because it wasn't Bush.
But obama did do something to change how social security disability is handle did he not?

Actually, it WAS Bush...LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!

Senate Passes Social Security Disability Applicants’ Access to Professional Representation Act

Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-MT) and Ranking Member Chuck Grassley (R-IA) applauded the Senate’s unanimous passage yesterday “of a bill to make permanent two successful demonstration programs that provide incentives for qualified professionals to represent Americans with disabilities in claims for Social Security Disability and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits,” according to a press release.

In the past, attorneys could request to collect their fees directly from the Social Security Administration (SSA). But the direct payment was available only to attorneys, not to non-attorney representatives, and only for Social Security claims, not for SSI claims. This deterred some representatives from pursuing these cases and made it difficult for some claimants to access the qualified representation they needed.

The Social Security Protection Act of 2004 created two demonstration projects to expand eligibility for direct payments to qualified non-attorney representatives and SSI claims. To qualify as a professional representative, individuals must pass an exam written and administered by the Commissioner of Social Security, meet certain educational and professional liability insurance requirements and pass a criminal background check. Both programs have proven successful at increasing claimants’ access to qualified, professional representation.

The Social Security Disability Applicants’ Access to Professional Representation Act (H.R. 4532) “makes these two successful projects permanent, streamlining the compensation process and providing the certainty representatives need to pursue these cases.”

It’s been passed in the House, so the bill now goes to President Obama for his signature.

I don't think Bush was in office in 2010, even though I know you want to blame him.

Maybe you could find an adult who can read these things to you?

Bush WAS the president in 2004. The projects have been in effect since 2004. Without action, these provisions would expire on March 1, 2010.

The Social Security Protection Act of 2004 created two demonstration projects

The Social Security Disability Applicants’ Access to Professional Representation Act (H.R. 4532) “makes these two successful projects permanent

• Due to the fact that attorneys and non-attorneys who participate in fee withholding are charged a fee by the SSA, preliminary estimates indicate the bill saves approximately $55 million over 10 years.

Committee on Ways & Means Republicans