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Killing and maiming people is EXACTLY what the government ordered with the shot mandates.Oh yeah, the right to kill babies. They must be SO proud!
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Killing and maiming people is EXACTLY what the government ordered with the shot mandates.Oh yeah, the right to kill babies. They must be SO proud!
That may or may not be true.That might just be the perception at this time. Perhaps , every individual is thinking the same thing , " How did we get into this mess ? " and every individual is willing to compromise a little in order to change the paradigm.Reading the debates on this forum along with what I see in the news media there is very little chance of rapprochement leading to compromise
I am a very different person from most liberals and they feel the same way about conservatives
The previous post was the final response to the state of texas about its sb8 ( senate bill 8 ) , wherein scotus related that civil prosecution for damages by one individual against another individual whom optioned abortion is not constitutional .Can you translate that into the King’s English?
Us republic is founded upon independence of the individual , whether is is understood as old or new english .I dont speak Liberish
Just want to point something out.Montana’s Republican-controlled legislature abrogated privacy rights guaranteed by the state constitution, the court ruled:
“nder Montana’s Constitution, the right of individual privacy—that is, the right of personal autonomy or the right to be let alone—is fundamental.
“It is, perhaps, one of the most important rights guaranteed to the citizens of this State, and its separate textual protection in our Constitution reflects Montanans’ historical abhorrence and distrust of excessive governmental interference in their personal lives.”
The high court sided with an advanced practice nurse practitioner and a clinician who challenged a 2005 law, styled “Control of Practice of Abortion,” that limited who could provide health services.
The health professionals also are called advanced practice registered nurses (APRNs), family nurse practitioners (FNPs), certified nurse-midwifes (CNMs), and physician assistants (PAs).
The district court ruled that the legislature violated a woman’s “fundamental right of privacy to seek abortion care from a qualified health care provider of her choosing” when enacting the 2005 law.
Montana Supreme Court nixes extremist anti-abortion laws, citing constitutional privacy rights
Montana’s highest court unanimously upheld a a district court ruling that overturned a 2005 law restricting who could provide abortion services. The 7-0 decision cited privacy rights enumerated in Montana’s constitution, in a ruling that likely also...www.dailykos.com
Hang on America. We will get rid of these anti American extremist assholes, state by state. Election by election.
It's coming, and may take longer in certain areas of the country where the most extreme anti American fringe lunatics are. But it's coming.
That is what they said in 1935 Nuremberg.It's not murder if it's legal.
And at the Salem witch trials.That is what they said in 1935 Nuremberg.
They didn't say 'extremist' YOU DIDMontana’s Republican-controlled legislature abrogated privacy rights guaranteed by the state constitution, the court ruled:
“nder Montana’s Constitution, the right of individual privacy—that is, the right of personal autonomy or the right to be let alone—is fundamental.
“It is, perhaps, one of the most important rights guaranteed to the citizens of this State, and its separate textual protection in our Constitution reflects Montanans’ historical abhorrence and distrust of excessive governmental interference in their personal lives.”
The high court sided with an advanced practice nurse practitioner and a clinician who challenged a 2005 law, styled “Control of Practice of Abortion,” that limited who could provide health services.
The health professionals also are called advanced practice registered nurses (APRNs), family nurse practitioners (FNPs), certified nurse-midwifes (CNMs), and physician assistants (PAs).
The district court ruled that the legislature violated a woman’s “fundamental right of privacy to seek abortion care from a qualified health care provider of her choosing” when enacting the 2005 law.
Montana Supreme Court nixes extremist anti-abortion laws, citing constitutional privacy rights
Montana’s highest court unanimously upheld a a district court ruling that overturned a 2005 law restricting who could provide abortion services. The 7-0 decision cited privacy rights enumerated in Montana’s constitution, in a ruling that likely also...www.dailykos.com
Hang on America. We will get rid of these anti American extremist assholes, state by state. Election by election.
It's coming, and may take longer in certain areas of the country where the most extreme anti American fringe lunatics are. But it's coming.
The court system needs to debate whether abortion of a human on its developmental stage is or is not a human being. It is my opinion that a child is a human being before birth, during birth, and after it is born. The answer is obvious as we see human attributes in videos of the fetus moving around in the womb and trying to escape the abortion instruments as they aim for killing the little human, it fights with all its might to avoid deadly threatening maneuvers inside the womb. Survival instincts are in place long before human birth. It therefore is a human being that wants to live. The U S Constitution says that people have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.Montana’s Republican-controlled legislature abrogated privacy rights guaranteed by the state constitution, the court ruled:
“nder Montana’s Constitution, the right of individual privacy—that is, the right of personal autonomy or the right to be let alone—is fundamental.
“It is, perhaps, one of the most important rights guaranteed to the citizens of this State, and its separate textual protection in our Constitution reflects Montanans’ historical abhorrence and distrust of excessive governmental interference in their personal lives.”
The high court sided with an advanced practice nurse practitioner and a clinician who challenged a 2005 law, styled “Control of Practice of Abortion,” that limited who could provide health services.
The health professionals also are called advanced practice registered nurses (APRNs), family nurse practitioners (FNPs), certified nurse-midwifes (CNMs), and physician assistants (PAs).
The district court ruled that the legislature violated a woman’s “fundamental right of privacy to seek abortion care from a qualified health care provider of her choosing” when enacting the 2005 law.
Montana Supreme Court nixes extremist anti-abortion laws, citing constitutional privacy rights
Montana’s highest court unanimously upheld a a district court ruling that overturned a 2005 law restricting who could provide abortion services. The 7-0 decision cited privacy rights enumerated in Montana’s constitution, in a ruling that likely also...www.dailykos.com
Hang on America. We will get rid of these anti American extremist assholes, state by state. Election by election.
It's coming, and may take longer in certain areas of the country where the most extreme anti American fringe lunatics are. But it's coming.
A state is comprised of individual citizens in whom legitimate interests of a state lay .The court system needs to debate whether abortion of a human on its developmental stage is or is not a human being. It is my opinion that a child is a human being before birth, during birth, and after it is born.
The answer is obvious as we see human attributes in videos of the fetus moving around in the womb and trying to escape the abortion instruments as they aim for killing the little human, it fights with all its might to avoid deadly threatening maneuvers inside the womb. Survival instincts are in place long before human birth. It therefore is a human being that wants to live. The U S Constitution says that people have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Sounds as though you live in fantasy island , where all experiences are phenomenal and grandiose , because at the age and stage of development you are describing , between 13 and 20 weeks when ultrasound is applied to determine development anomalies , those women want to deliver a healthy child .Because life is constitutional it is obvious that a reborn baby experiences murder and it fights killing instruments because the little human being does not want to die, but it wants to continue on to be born and live it's own life. The mother should show mercy to that living being to have someone else to take care of it if the birth mother doesn't want the motherhood experience. Infants who are available to be adopted have brought joy to parents who may have been sterile or couldn't conceive for any reason.
Only extremists could come up with with such a blatantly unfair abortion law. Reacting to that is not extremism but common sense in a free country.Just want to point something out.
THey didn't say 'Extremist' , you did.
And to say the judges are all not extreme but the legislature is extreme is only to insult voters
You never even once have mentioned help for the poor woman all alone who wants her baby. You have "murderer" all over whatever you say. Must be guilt driving you to a horrible end.Montana’s Republican-controlled legislature abrogated privacy rights guaranteed by the state constitution, the court ruled:
“nder Montana’s Constitution, the right of individual privacy—that is, the right of personal autonomy or the right to be let alone—is fundamental.
“It is, perhaps, one of the most important rights guaranteed to the citizens of this State, and its separate textual protection in our Constitution reflects Montanans’ historical abhorrence and distrust of excessive governmental interference in their personal lives.”
The high court sided with an advanced practice nurse practitioner and a clinician who challenged a 2005 law, styled “Control of Practice of Abortion,” that limited who could provide health services.
The health professionals also are called advanced practice registered nurses (APRNs), family nurse practitioners (FNPs), certified nurse-midwifes (CNMs), and physician assistants (PAs).
The district court ruled that the legislature violated a woman’s “fundamental right of privacy to seek abortion care from a qualified health care provider of her choosing” when enacting the 2005 law.
Montana Supreme Court nixes extremist anti-abortion laws, citing constitutional privacy rights
Montana’s highest court unanimously upheld a a district court ruling that overturned a 2005 law restricting who could provide abortion services. The 7-0 decision cited privacy rights enumerated in Montana’s constitution, in a ruling that likely also...www.dailykos.com
Hang on America. We will get rid of these anti American extremist assholes, state by state. Election by election.
It's coming, and may take longer in certain areas of the country where the most extreme anti American fringe lunatics are. But it's coming.
As many feminists now say of people like youOnly extremists could come up with with such a blatantly unfair abortion law. Reacting to that is not extremism but common sense in a free country.
Murder is a legal term.You never even once have mentioned help for the poor woman all alone who wants her baby. You have "murderer" all over whatever you say. Must be guilt driving you to a horrible end.
Where do I get off. Could be because killing a human being who wants to be alive is murder. The scientific community published actual scans of unborn infants darting away from abortionists' killing implements. The unborn children knew they were going to get killed if they didn't get out of the killer tools way. I saw the video several years ago. It proved to me the act of killing a human life is first degree murder. If you want to play brain dead about the evidence, sir or madam, that is not my problem. Good evening." Fantasy Vanity For Populism From Wanna Be Sacrosanct Dictators "
* With Out Conscientious Objection From A Due Ewe Mind *
A state is comprised of individual citizens in whom legitimate interests of a state lay .
The constitutional contract between a state and its citizens is instantiated through a live birth requirement , which is the only non incidental requirement to become an individual us citizen , where by equitable doctrine a live birth is required for equal protection with an individual citizen .
On first principles of political science for an implementation of a social system based on principles of non violence and of individualism , a legitimate state interest is to promote independence of its citizens through equal protection of negative liberties among individuals .
An individual may be an individual citizen , or as a collective of individuals as a state , or federate , or corporate .
The tx sb8 sought to privatize prosecution of abortion , by allowing civil suits for liable between individuals based on proof that an abortion had occurred .
The scotus final response to tx sb8 is clear that fatwas ( fat wads ) are not constitutional , as in learn to mind your own damned business .
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/21/21A85/196650/20211018120230336_US v. Texas application final.pdf
And no plaintiff could maintain an S.B. 8 cause of action or recover the statutory damages it authorizes without action by the Texas courts.
* Inchoate Non-Sentient Absent Valid Basis For Empathy From Suffering *
CONCLUSIONS
Pain is an emotional and psychological experience that requires conscious recognition of a noxious stimulus. Consequently, the capacity for conscious perception of pain can arise only after thalamocortical pathways begin to function, which may occur in the third trimester around 29 to 30 weeks’ gestational age, based on the limited data available. Small-scale histological studies of human fetuses have found that thalamocortical fibers begin to form between 23 and 30 weeks’ gestational age, but these studies did not specifically examine thalamocortical pathways active in pain perception. While the presence of thalamocortical fibers is necessary for pain perception, their mere presence is insufficient—this pathway must also be functional. It has been proposed that transient, functional thalamocortical circuits may form via subplate neurons around midgestation, but no human study has demonstrated this early functionality. Instead, constant SEPs appear at 29 weeks’ PCA, and EEG patterns denoting wakefulness appear around 30 weeks’ PCA.
Because pain perception probably does not function before the third trimester, discussions of fetal pain for abortions performed before the end of the second trimester should be noncompulsory. Fetal anesthesia or analgesia should not be recommended or routinely offered for abortion because current experimental techniques provide unknown fetal benefit and may increase risks for the woman. Instead, further research should focus on when pain-related thalamocortical pathways become functional in humans. If the fetus can feel pain, additional research may lead to effective fetal anesthesia or analgesia techniques that are also safe for women .
* When Life Begins Does Not Supersede The Means By Which Life Continues *
Sounds as though you live in fantasy island , where all experiences are phenomenal and grandiose , because at the age and stage of development you are describing , between 13 and 20 weeks when ultrasound is applied to determine development anomalies , those women want to deliver a healthy child .
Where the fuck do you get off dictating life , liberty and pursuit of happiness decisions against the will of those women and families struggle with dissonance and anxiety ?
The constitutional basis of abortion is " When does a state interest being ? " and not " When does life begin ? " ' .
You may possibly regard yourself as a us republican , however yearn assertions are traitorous to us republic motto for a credo of e pluribus unum which promotes independence of the individual .
The us republic is founded upon independence of the individual and not upon populism for democracy as tyranny by the collective majority .
A santimonious dictum does not exist for us federate or states to disavow equitable doctrine and that a live birth is required for legitimate state interests .
A santimonious dictum does not exist for us federate or states to disavow equal protection of negative liberties among individuals and that live birth is required to become an individual citizen .
Defending the planned murder of a human being is a very violent act." Fantasy Vanity For Populism From Wanna Be Sacrosanct Dictators "
* With Out Conscientious Objection From A Due Ewe Mind *
A state is comprised of individual citizens in whom legitimate interests of a state lay .
The constitutional contract between a state and its citizens is instantiated through a live birth requirement , which is the only non incidental requirement to become an individual us citizen , where by equitable doctrine a live birth is required for equal protection with an individual citizen .
On first principles of political science for an implementation of a social system based on principles of non violence and of individualism , a legitimate state interest is to promote independence of its citizens through equal protection of negative liberties among individuals .
An individual may be an individual citizen , or as a collective of individuals as a state , or federate , or corporate .
The tx sb8 sought to privatize prosecution of abortion , by allowing civil suits for liable between individuals based on proof that an abortion had occurred .
The scotus final response to tx sb8 is clear that fatwas ( fat wads ) are not constitutional , as in learn to mind your own damned business .
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/21/21A85/196650/20211018120230336_US v. Texas application final.pdf
And no plaintiff could maintain an S.B. 8 cause of action or recover the statutory damages it authorizes without action by the Texas courts.
* Inchoate Non-Sentient Absent Valid Basis For Empathy From Suffering *
CONCLUSIONS
Pain is an emotional and psychological experience that requires conscious recognition of a noxious stimulus. Consequently, the capacity for conscious perception of pain can arise only after thalamocortical pathways begin to function, which may occur in the third trimester around 29 to 30 weeks’ gestational age, based on the limited data available. Small-scale histological studies of human fetuses have found that thalamocortical fibers begin to form between 23 and 30 weeks’ gestational age, but these studies did not specifically examine thalamocortical pathways active in pain perception. While the presence of thalamocortical fibers is necessary for pain perception, their mere presence is insufficient—this pathway must also be functional. It has been proposed that transient, functional thalamocortical circuits may form via subplate neurons around midgestation, but no human study has demonstrated this early functionality. Instead, constant SEPs appear at 29 weeks’ PCA, and EEG patterns denoting wakefulness appear around 30 weeks’ PCA.
Because pain perception probably does not function before the third trimester, discussions of fetal pain for abortions performed before the end of the second trimester should be noncompulsory. Fetal anesthesia or analgesia should not be recommended or routinely offered for abortion because current experimental techniques provide unknown fetal benefit and may increase risks for the woman. Instead, further research should focus on when pain-related thalamocortical pathways become functional in humans. If the fetus can feel pain, additional research may lead to effective fetal anesthesia or analgesia techniques that are also safe for women .
* When Life Begins Does Not Supersede The Means By Which Life Continues *
Sounds as though you live in fantasy island , where all experiences are phenomenal and grandiose , because at the age and stage of development you are describing , between 13 and 20 weeks when ultrasound is applied to determine development anomalies , those women want to deliver a healthy child .
Where the fuck do you get off dictating life , liberty and pursuit of happiness decisions against the will of those women and families struggle with dissonance and anxiety ?
The constitutional basis of abortion is " When does a state interest being ? " and not " When does life begin ? " ' .
You may possibly regard yourself as a us republican , however yearn assertions are traitorous to us republic motto for a credo of e pluribus unum which promotes independence of the individual .
The us republic is founded upon independence of the individual and not upon populism for democracy as tyranny by the collective majority .
A santimonious dictum does not exist for us federate or states to disavow equitable doctrine and that a live birth is required for legitimate state interests .
A santimonious dictum does not exist for us federate or states to disavow equal protection of negative liberties among individuals and that live birth is required to become an individual citizen .
Defend murder all you want. However nothing is more violent than having someone you do not want in your life killed. Seeing someone defending murder is not my cup of tea. I am done with this thread and your promotion of infanticide." Fantasy Vanity For Populism From Wanna Be Sacrosanct Dictators "
* With Out Conscientious Objection From A Due Ewe Mind *
A state is comprised of individual citizens in whom legitimate interests of a state lay .
The constitutional contract between a state and its citizens is instantiated through a live birth requirement , which is the only non incidental requirement to become an individual us citizen , where by equitable doctrine a live birth is required for equal protection with an individual citizen .
On first principles of political science for an implementation of a social system based on principles of non violence and of individualism , a legitimate state interest is to promote independence of its citizens through equal protection of negative liberties among individuals .
An individual may be an individual citizen , or as a collective of individuals as a state , or federate , or corporate .
The tx sb8 sought to privatize prosecution of abortion , by allowing civil suits for liable between individuals based on proof that an abortion had occurred .
The scotus final response to tx sb8 is clear that fatwas ( fat wads ) are not constitutional , as in learn to mind your own damned business .
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/21/21A85/196650/20211018120230336_US v. Texas application final.pdf
And no plaintiff could maintain an S.B. 8 cause of action or recover the statutory damages it authorizes without action by the Texas courts.
* Inchoate Non-Sentient Absent Valid Basis For Empathy From Suffering *
CONCLUSIONS
Pain is an emotional and psychological experience that requires conscious recognition of a noxious stimulus. Consequently, the capacity for conscious perception of pain can arise only after thalamocortical pathways begin to function, which may occur in the third trimester around 29 to 30 weeks’ gestational age, based on the limited data available. Small-scale histological studies of human fetuses have found that thalamocortical fibers begin to form between 23 and 30 weeks’ gestational age, but these studies did not specifically examine thalamocortical pathways active in pain perception. While the presence of thalamocortical fibers is necessary for pain perception, their mere presence is insufficient—this pathway must also be functional. It has been proposed that transient, functional thalamocortical circuits may form via subplate neurons around midgestation, but no human study has demonstrated this early functionality. Instead, constant SEPs appear at 29 weeks’ PCA, and EEG patterns denoting wakefulness appear around 30 weeks’ PCA.
Because pain perception probably does not function before the third trimester, discussions of fetal pain for abortions performed before the end of the second trimester should be noncompulsory. Fetal anesthesia or analgesia should not be recommended or routinely offered for abortion because current experimental techniques provide unknown fetal benefit and may increase risks for the woman. Instead, further research should focus on when pain-related thalamocortical pathways become functional in humans. If the fetus can feel pain, additional research may lead to effective fetal anesthesia or analgesia techniques that are also safe for women .
* When Life Begins Does Not Supersede The Means By Which Life Continues *
Sounds as though you live in fantasy island , where all experiences are phenomenal and grandiose , because at the age and stage of development you are describing , between 13 and 20 weeks when ultrasound is applied to determine development anomalies , those women want to deliver a healthy child .
Where the fuck do you get off dictating life , liberty and pursuit of happiness decisions against the will of those women and families struggle with dissonance and anxiety ?
The constitutional basis of abortion is " When does a state interest being ? " and not " When does life begin ? " ' .
You may possibly regard yourself as a us republican , however yearn assertions are traitorous to us republic motto for a credo of e pluribus unum which promotes independence of the individual .
The us republic is founded upon independence of the individual and not upon populism for democracy as tyranny by the collective majority .
A santimonious dictum does not exist for us federate or states to disavow equitable doctrine and that a live birth is required for legitimate state interests .
A santimonious dictum does not exist for us federate or states to disavow equal protection of negative liberties among individuals and that live birth is required to become an individual citizen .
Infant - a very young child or baby. , generally from birth to 1 year old. Newborn is often used for a child that is only a few hours or days old. Your use of incorrect terminology detracts from the case you are attempting to make. I guess you want failure. Good luck with that.Where do I get off. Could be because killing a human being who wants to be alive is murder. The scientific community published actual scans of unborn infants darting away from abortionists' killing implements. The unborn children knew they were going to get killed if they didn't get out of the killer tools way. I saw the video several years ago. It proved to me the act of killing a human life - a very young child is first degree murder. If you want to play brain dead about the evidence, sir or madam, that is not my problem. Good evening.
The question specific is where the fuck do you get off dictating that individuals abdicate to your freak farm fantasies of mandated misery by forcing them to deliver congenital deformities ?Defending the planned murder of a human being is a very violent act.
Save your judgmental damnation bullshit for those confusing the meaning of an after life with the means by which to achieve it , where the meaning of an after life is literally to pass on ones genetic identity through offspring , and where failure to do so in perpetuity is ascribed the metaphors of eternal damnation and final judgement .If you continue to marginalize defenders of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and you continue to project anti-religious claims against the defenders of the right of others to live, and you encourage even one person to kill another, you might get away in your eagerness to extinguish the lives of little ones who are loved by Jesus who told his disciples Suffer ye the little children, but aiding and abetting infant murder puts you in a merciless position. Jesus weeps when little ones are so hated they experience the pain and disappointment of being denied their right to exist.
There you go again back at the fantasy island of insane dementia , with morose claims that infanticide is occurring for euthanasia of deformed freaks by those actually responsible for carrying them to term , for delivering them and for acting as surrogates .Defend murder all you want. However nothing is more violent than having someone you do not want in your life killed. Seeing someone defending murder is not my cup of tea. I am done with this thread and your promotion of infanticide.
The sanctimonious sacrosanct pleads for asceticism of rituals that supposedly establish an all encompassing ideal of utopia .I can't believe so many people care so much about "baby murder" when so many real kids are neglected and abused. If we can't provide adequate care for all the kids that exist now, then we can't do anything for the many more kids we would have with a complete abortion ban. First, we need something better than the foster care system, which is often a direct route to jail when the foster kids age out with nowhere else to go.