CDZ Modern Day Christian Terrorists

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There are more than a few Christian terrorist groups, but somehow their activities are largely ignored.

6 modern-day Christian terrorist groups our media conveniently ignores

The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) recently released an in-depth report on terrorism in the United States. Covering April 2009 to February 2015, the report (titled “The Age of the Wolf”) found that during that period, “more people have been killed in America by non-Islamic domestic terrorists than jihadists.” The SPLC asserted that “the jihadist threat is a tremendous one,” pointing out that al-Qaeda’s attacks of September 11, 2001 remain the deadliest in U.S. history. But the study also noted that the second deadliest was carried out not by Islamists, but by Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995—and law enforcement, the SPLC stressed, are doing the public a huge disservice if they view terrorism as an exclusively Islamist phenomenon.


The report, in a sense, echoed the assertions that President Barack Obama made when he spoke at the National Prayer Breakfast in February and stressed that Muslims don’t have the market cornered on religious extremism. In the minds of far-right Republicans, Obama committed the ultimate sin by daring to mention that Christianity has a dark side and citing the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition as two examples from the distant past. Obama wasn’t attacking Christianity on the whole but rather, was making the point that just as not all Christians can be held responsible for the horrors of the Inquisition, not all Muslims can be blamed for the violent extremism of ISIS (the Islamic State, Iraq and Syria), the Taliban, al-Qaeda or Boko Haram. But Obama certainly didn’t need to look 800 or 900 years in the past to find examples of extreme Christianists committing atrocities. Violent Christianists are a reality in different parts of the world—including the United States—and the fact that the mainstream media don’t give them as much coverage as ISIS or Boko Haram doesn’t mean that they don’t exist.

Why do you think that people hold muslims to a different standard than they do Christians?
 
They are missing the boat. If some terrorists get 72 virgins, these guys should up the ante; at least 100, or maybe 365, one for every day.
 
Why do people hold Christians and Muslims at 2 different standards? Simple........people here in America know about Christianity, but very few know about Islam.

That...............and the fact that under Jr. we were constantly told about how all the Muslims were terrorists.
 
Why do people hold Christians and Muslims at 2 different standards? Simple........people here in America know about Christianity, but very few know about Islam.

That...............and the fact that under Jr. we were constantly told about how all the Muslims were terrorists.
There is also the blurring of the term, 'terrorist', such as not identifying the 'Contras' as such, etc.
 
I don't know. Maybe the media is "ignoring" this small number of fringe "Christian" freaks and their crimes because there are more crimes being committed in the name of Allah to report?

Actually, most of us have heard about the hand-full of abortion doctors murdered by wackos, for instance. So, the media did report it. Why do we see more media coverage on say, followers of Islam throwing homosexuals off of roofs or stoning women who fail to cover themselves with a burka? Could it be because there are more violent Muslim whackos than violent Christian whackos?

I'm a bit of a news junky but I can't read everything. Still, off the top of my head I recall reports of Muslims killing people while yelling ALLAH AKBAR. I don't recall any report where a Christian terrorist, while killing people, yelled anything the name of Jesus Christ. Are they terrorists of a different feather?

Beats me.

Personally, I don't hold Muslims to a higher standard than Christians. Basically, I expect everybody not to do terror.
 
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The U.S. has a high level of violence, and one of the highest rates of Christianity in the western world. Thus, it stands to reason that many of the people in prison for committing a violent act are Christian.

It doesn't seem very Christlike to murder someone, though.
 
We were all terrorized in the fifties by our own government. As horrible as Stalin and others may have been, Russia did not have the capacity to attack the U.S. mainland with nukes, while the U.S. was more than prepared to rain total destruction on Russia. No attack by the S.U. was in the cards, but little children were herded into shelters and hidden under desks to make sure they learned to fear and hate.
 
The U.S. has a high level of violence, and one of the highest rates of Christianity in the western world. Thus, it stands to reason that many of the people in prison for committing a violent act are Christian.

It doesn't seem very Christlike to murder someone, though.
Your sentiments are clear and true, but your statement reveals the hypocrisy of American culture. Saying one is Christian and acting otherwise is the common thing. No Christian can murder; it is oxymoronic.
 
The U.S. has a high level of violence, and one of the highest rates of Christianity in the western world. Thus, it stands to reason that many of the people in prison for committing a violent act are Christian.

It doesn't seem very Christlike to murder someone, though.
Followers of Jesus Christ know that murdering someone is not His way. It would be interesting to hear from someone who practices Islam on the matter of violence and murder.

Meanwhile, though I answered your question, "Why do you think that people hold Muslims to a different standard than they do Christians?" I did not remark on the wording of it. Your question asserts that people do hold Muslims to a different standard than Christians. Pillar, why do you think that people hold Muslims to a different standard than they do Christians, and who exactly are these people?
 
A lot of people assume the only "Christian terrorists" are those who bomb abortion clinics or shoot abortion doctors. Not even close to true. There are legions of whackos arming up (particularly in the west) for the expected overthrow of the American government for reasons that include a perceived persecution of Xtians (i.e. Americans are no longer content letting Xtians have every single thing their way, and their way alone).
 
Meanwhile, though I answered your question, "Why do you think that people hold Muslims to a different standard than they do Christians?" I did not remark on the wording of it. Your question asserts that people do hold Muslims to a different standard than Christians. Pillar, why do you think that people hold Muslims to a different standard than they do Christians, and who exactly are these people?

Why do they hold muslims to a different standard? First, because most of the reporting on muslims in the U.S. is of violent incidents, not peaceful activities of normal muslims. Second, because of familiarity...we are familiar with Christians, but less so with muslims. Third, because there has been a lot of fear-mongering and politicalization of this issue by people who want to gain from keeping us afraid.

As for who, you can see a great example on this thread: CDZ - Islamification of The West

The National Day of Prayer is a similar Christian event; it's lauded by posters here. But, when muslims march to show support of their beliefs, it's scary and dangerous.
 
Meanwhile, though I answered your question, "Why do you think that people hold Muslims to a different standard than they do Christians?" I did not remark on the wording of it. Your question asserts that people do hold Muslims to a different standard than Christians. Pillar, why do you think that people hold Muslims to a different standard than they do Christians, and who exactly are these people?

Why do they hold muslims to a different standard? First, because most of the reporting on muslims in the U.S. is of violent incidents, not peaceful activities of normal muslims. Second, because of familiarity...we are familiar with Christians, but less so with muslims. Third, because there has been a lot of fear-mongering and politicalization of this issue by people who want to gain from keeping us afraid.

As for who, you can see a great example on this thread: CDZ - Islamification of The West

The National Day of Prayer is a similar Christian event; it's lauded by posters here. But, when muslims march to show support of their beliefs, it's scary and dangerous.

Interesting. I have to ask again, who is they?

You must have missed all those heart warming news stories about ordinary Muslims doing nice things. Well. I'm the news junky, guess I'm lucky that way.

True, there are certainly more Christians around here, so most people know more about Jesus' teaching than Mohammed's. Still, that hardly justifies a blanket assumption that non familiarity breeds contempt.

Again. Who are these people who want to gain from keeping us afraid? Are they the same people with a different standard for Muslims and for Christians?

National prayer days around here include Islam prayers. Maybe you missed that too. Who exactly said Muslims marching is scary and dangerous?

I'll read your link but I expect you to be able to explain your own remarks. Thank you.
 
This thread is about Christian terrorist organizations. And, I linked you to the thread where those things were said. I'll let you draw your own conclusions about who said them.

If you're not willing to do that, I don't really care what your expectations are.
 
This thread is about Christian terrorist organizations. And, I linked you to the thread where those things were said. I'll let you draw your own conclusions about who said them.

If you're not willing to do that, I don't really care what your expectations are.

The topic of the link you posted is about Muslims, not Christian terrorist organizations and it is an argument thread from right here in USMB. Evidently you expect me to search through over 300 responses to find your point.

Thank you for letting me know you have no serious willingness to back up your own views in polite debate.
 
Thanks for letting me know that you aren't interested in discussing the topic of Christian terror organizations. :thup:
 
The U.S. has a high level of violence, and one of the highest rates of Christianity in the western world. Thus, it stands to reason that many of the people in prison for committing a violent act are Christian.

It doesn't seem very Christlike to murder someone, though.
Your sentiments are clear and true, but your statement reveals the hypocrisy of American culture. Saying one is Christian and acting otherwise is the common thing. No Christian can murder; it is oxymoronic.


Many Muslims would say the same about their religion.
 
The U.S. has a high level of violence, and one of the highest rates of Christianity in the western world. Thus, it stands to reason that many of the people in prison for committing a violent act are Christian.

It doesn't seem very Christlike to murder someone, though.
Your sentiments are clear and true, but your statement reveals the hypocrisy of American culture. Saying one is Christian and acting otherwise is the common thing. No Christian can murder; it is oxymoronic.


Many Muslims would say the same about their religion.
Every 'Moslem', as every 'Christian', should believe and practice it.
 
The U.S. has a high level of violence, and one of the highest rates of Christianity in the western world. Thus, it stands to reason that many of the people in prison for committing a violent act are Christian.

It doesn't seem very Christlike to murder someone, though.
Your sentiments are clear and true, but your statement reveals the hypocrisy of American culture. Saying one is Christian and acting otherwise is the common thing. No Christian can murder; it is oxymoronic.


Many Muslims would say the same about their religion.
I think that is my point.
 
Because they say that terrorists who pervert Christian beliefs aren't "real Christians."

But, muslims who pervert Muslim beliefs ARE real muslims.

This only makes sense if you are completely unaware of your own biases.
 

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