Miracles are logical

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    Miracles are simply those events or occurrences which supersede the known physical laws. Anyone with a basic understanding of physics and who believes that we actually exist should believe in miracles. The existence of our world is unintelligible, impossible to bring about through the application of known physical laws. These laws must then have been superseded.
     
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    Huh? And here all the time I thought gravity explained how our world came into existence. Silly me.
     
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    Here are some truths to compare with the op

    1)Man is born into ignorance

    2)Man has science, but the science is not complete. For the religious, this means that man does not know everything about the world.

    3)Religion is considered justifiable when we consider knowledge in areas that man does not know scientifically.



    Using the op and the above truths, I can conclude how religion will survive forever. It will keep creating new subject areas and reign supreme in those areas! Anyone disagree?
     
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    There are no above truths.
    1)Children, not men are born ignorant. Science cannot say what the first man knew.
    2)"Science is not complete" The concept is vague and meaningless.
    3)Religion requires no justification. Man's knowledge is not quantifiable. Religion and science are not mutually exclusive.
     
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    There are no above truths.
    1)Children, not men are born ignorant. Science cannot say what the first man knew.
    2)"Science is not complete" The concept is vague and meaningless.
    3)Religion requires no justification. Man's knowledge is not quantifiable. Religion and science are not mutually exclusive.
     
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    Was prob'ly ulcerative colitis, a progressive condition that doesn't just 'clear up' of itself...
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    Vatican declares Colorado boy's recovery a miracle
    April 15, 2013 - A Colorado mom whose son became gravely ill as a little boy has always figured his prayer-aided recovery was miraculous, but now the Vatican has made it official.
     
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    Google Search: Definition Miracle

    When I Google the definition of 'Miracle', most of the entries have a primary definition that includes some sort of Divine intervention in human events.

    Since God is NOT logical and MUST be considered on faith and faith alone, 'logic' and 'miracle' are mutually exclusive.
     
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    I have seen miracles, and they all seemed to happen in a perfectly logical way. A very natural way. That's why so many doctors believe in miracles.
     
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    Yup. Divine intervention: A logical explanation for the unexplainable.
    :rolleyes:
     
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    Belief in a creator requires faith - believing without proof. A miracle is that faith modifying reality.
    It happens everyday all over the world. It is not limited to one religion or even religions.
    Man carries three attributes of the Creator;
    1. Faith
    2. Hope
    3. Charity (love)
    "...of these, the greatest is love..." Without love faith can move mountains but to what end? Hope is the wellspring of eternal wellbeing but without love you have nothing. When you combine the three in one act you get miracles. We can be the interaction of the divine on earth.
     

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