Michelle Obama:"All this for just a flag"

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    ETA: disclaimer: this is not about Michelle to me. It's about symbols and how we embrace them, don't embrace them and how we react to each other over this issue. We have July4th coming up and Canada Day and this search I did was the perfect example for showing an incident that reflects what I wanted to discuss.

    And from the responses some are giving, this still appears to be a regrettable moment that really divided people. Again, it's not about Michelle to me. It's about symbols.

    I did a search and I can't find another thread on this. This is beyond a regrettable moment. I don't even remember this from last year. Does anyone else?

    The internet was buzzing this week with video of First Lady Michelle Obama apparently showing extreme disrespect to the American flag at a ceremony in honor of the victims of the September 11, 2001 terror attacks.

    As police and firefighters fold the flag to the sound of marching bagpipers, a skeptical looking Mrs. Obama leans to her husband and appears to say, “all this just for a flag.” She then purses her lips and shakes her head slightly as Mr. Obama nods.


    I really like what the author of the piece has to say about this situation.

    Perhaps Mrs. Obama thinks that all the pomp and circumstance she experiences in her daily life has something to do with her, rather than the unofficial office she holds.

    If so she should disabuse herself of that notion quickly. The official gestures of respect shown to her are the same shown to any First Lady, and if she wasn’t married to the president she would be just another citizen.

    Ruffles and flourishes are not hers by right, but by coincidence of marriage. Yet this is the same woman who said she had never in her adult life been really proud of America before her husband ran for president, so it is no wonder she might dismiss a flag ceremony as just so much nonsense.

    All this just for a flag? Has anyone said, “All this just for Michelle Obama?”


    :eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap:

    TRR: Michelle Obama:
     
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    to be honest blacks really have reason to respect flag when whites cant no even respect them . look at what the white trash people have done in america. Blacks were slaves, did not have equal civil rights and denied equity because whites could not be true people as a majority.
     
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    Note: I've asked the mods to move this to general. I wanted it to be a discussion not of Michelle Obama but of the flag, patriotic songs and other symbols of nationhood.

    We've got our humongous Canada Day coming on July 1st and with July 4th approaching I was just wondering how individuals are feeling these days about displaying their patriotism.

    One of my favorite July the Fourths was when my husband had been transferred to the Saturn plant in Tennessee and we were staying at the Holiday Inn in Brentwood and enjoying the crazy display of fireworks out our hotel room window. Two dads in the neighborhood across from the hotel positively had an arsenal of fireworks they were setting off. Little children waving flags and cheering their dads on as they lit the sky on fire.

    It was sweet.
     
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    This fricking story is old. But the next five months are going to be a flood of regurgitated bongwater. We are going to be drowning in this brainless dreck. Because that is all some people know to talk about.

    People see what they want to see in that clip. And those who suffer from a confirmation bias mental defect see her saying "all this for a flag".

    Without any evidence whatsoever this is what she said, they then leap to fantastic conclusions about her attitudes and patriotism.

    She could not possibly be saying anything along the lines of the way they "fold that flag". Oh hell no. That would make her a decent fucking person! Therefore, impossible.
     
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    Well to begin with, white children from Britain were the first slaves in America. Second up white adults from Britain and the Irish were brought over as slaves. Their descendants have reconciled their past and moved on.

    And although it was the wealthy white elite (not trash) who enslaved blacks it was also whites who fought to free them.
     
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2SQUXjxUS8]Michelle Obama "all this for a flag" - YouTube[/ame]


    "...FOLD THAT FLAG."
     
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    This has been debunked several times.

    But feel free.

    Post it agin! Yeeeehawww..
     
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    Oh please check out my post in #3. The thread is not to be about Michelle but about how people relate to the symbols in their countries. I know it's from last year. But it's a great example of how people really flipped out about their perceived slight by Michelle.

    I didn't even see anything about this last year. I just thought it was a great example of showing how wild people will get over national symbols.

    Just recently Chris Jericho was almost drawn and quartered at a wrestling match in South America when he messed with I think it was Brazils flag.

    Most people in Canada, although they are proud of their flag, don't have the same visceral reaction if someone insulted the Canadian Flag versus hockey.

    We riot in the streets over hockey :D. Don't mess with hockey!
     
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    are you really comparing these slaves to history of blacks slaves lol i have even gotten to civil rights

    there is still no equality
     

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