Michael Moore, Hezbollah Heartthrob

[JohnRHS]

To suggest that Michael Moore's patriotism comes into question because a terrorist organization enjoyed his movie is complete lunacy. By saying that, you're also saying that anyone else who has voiced anti-Bush or anti-war is also unpatriotic, because, after all, Hezbollah would agree with what they have to say as well.

However, you're ALL overlooking the Bill of Rights, which provides for all American citizens the right to free speech. All Michael Moore has done is excercise his right under completely legal means.

Furthermore, it is the obligation of the citizens of this great country to act as a system of checks and balances in regards to our government. America's governmental system is so great simply because we allow (and encourage) dissent. Our people's ever-watchful eye creates a "glass house" effect on our leaders-- it pushes them in the right direction because they know that their citizens are watching their every decision.

If you castigate everyone who voices a dissenting opinion, you're striving to a create a society that is neither free, nor open. And THAT, ladies and gentleman, is unpatriotic.

 

[nycflasher]

Originally posted by NewGuy
I sense potential criminal charges.

Wjho do you think you are, Spiderman?

 

[nycflasher]

Originally posted by JohnRHS
To suggest that Michael Moore's patriotism comes into question because a terrorist organization enjoyed his movie is complete lunacy. By saying that, you're also saying that anyone else who has voiced anti-Bush or anti-war is also unpatriotic, because, after all, Hezbollah would agree with what they have to say as well.

However, you're ALL overlooking the Bill of Rights, which provides for all American citizens the right to free speech. All Michael Moore has done is excercise his right under completely legal means.

Furthermore, it is the obligation of the citizens of this great country to act as a system of checks and balances in regards to our government. America's governmental system is so great simply because we allow (and encourage) dissent. Our people's ever-watchful eye creates a "glass house" effect on our leaders-- it pushes them in the right direction because they know that their citizens are watching their every decision.

If you castigate everyone who voices a dissenting opinion, you're striving to a create a society that is neither free, nor open. And THAT, ladies and gentleman, is unpatriotic.

Welcome, Johnboy
These folks like to whine about MM alot.

 

[musicman]

That's not the case at all, John. Michael Moore is perfectly free to sink his fangs into the hand that feeds him. Weak-minded, easily led Americans are perfectly free to support his efforts with their hard-earned dollars, even as he shouts his contempt for them to the world. And I'm free to call him an asshole.

 

[insein]

Originally posted by musicman
That's not the case at all, John. Michael Moore is perfectly free to sink his fangs into the hand that feeds him. Weak-minded, easily led Americans are perfectly free to support his efforts with their hard-earned dollars, even as he shouts his contempt for them to the world. And I'm free to call him an asshole.

Ding ding. Im using my free speech to call him a traitor. Alot of others have as well.

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by nycflasher
Wjho do you think you are, Spiderman?

No, the Hulk.

-And a hell of a lot closer to a legit superhero than you are, poserboy.

 

[Merlin1047]

Originally posted by nycflasher
Welcome, Johnboy
These folks like to whine about MM alot.

Hey Flasher - did you call the DNC for reinforcements? It won't help. The quality of foolish sentiment is not improved by the fact that it is parroted by others.:

 

[nycflasher]

Originally posted by Merlin1047
Hey Flasher - did you call the DNC for reinforcements? It won't help. The quality of foolish sentiment is not improved by the fact that it is parroted by others.:

What part of what I said do you disagree with?

 

[nycflasher]

Originally posted by NewGuy
No, the Hulk.

-And a hell of a lot closer to a legit superhero than you are, poserboy.

I don't pretend to be anything I am not. You said you "sensed" criminal charges against MM, hence the Spidey comment.

Yeah, MM will be tried for treason.

 

[Merlin1047]

Originally posted by Bonnie
Can anyone figure out why Hollywood is so socialistic? Do they get corrupted when they get famous?

I call it the Streisand Syndrome and I suppose that most mortals are subject to its effects.

Once a person becomes a "star" he or she acquires an entourage. This group consists of sycophants, diletantes, leeches, opportunists, and a whole phalanx of butt kissers and brown nosers. The entourage functions to insulate the "star" from the real world. Members of the entourage make sure that the "star" is denied nothing, that the "star" is pampered and coddled. Every utterance of the "star" is applauded, no matter how inane, ignorant or flatly stupid. Eventually, the "star" begins to believe the bullshit. At that point, the "star" becomes a self-centered, narcissistic egomaniac who thinks that every thought he or she ever had is a gem of great wisdom.

That's when they think they have the right to tell the rest of us how to live our lives and that's when they turn into socialists.

To prove my point, I have provided the following link. If it doesn't work, you'll either have to do your own research or accept my opinion as gospel.


http://www.merlinsaidso.com//hlywood\dipsticks\nutcakes

 

[nycflasher]

Originally posted by Merlin1047

To prove my point, I have provided the following link. If it doesn't work, you'll either have to do your own research or accept my opinion as gospel.


http://www.merlinsaidso.com//hollywood//dipsticks\nutcakes

Yes, my Lord.
:teeth:

 

[Merlin1047]

Originally posted by nycflasher
Yes, my Lord.
:teeth:

That's it. You're finally getting the hang of this.

I like your attitude. But you forgot to include this>:hail:

 

[nycflasher]

Originally posted by Merlin1047
That's it. You're finally getting the hang of this.

I like your attitude. But you forgot to include this>:hail:

Let's mot get carried away, oh merciful one.

It's not like you're allowing wine to flow from my kitchen faucet...yet.

 

[Bonnie]

Originally posted by Merlin1047
I call it the Streisand Syndrome and I suppose that most mortals are subject to its effects.

Once a person becomes a "star" he or she acquires an entourage. This group consists of sycophants, diletantes, leeches, opportunists, and a whole phalanx of butt kissers and brown nosers. The entourage functions to insulate the "star" from the real world. Members of the entourage make sure that the "star" is denied nothing, that the "star" is pampered and coddled. Every utterance of the "star" is applauded, no matter how inane, ignorant or flatly stupid. Eventually, the "star" begins to believe the bullshit. At that point, the "star" becomes a self-centered, narcissistic egomaniac who thinks that every thought he or she ever had is a gem of great wisdom.

That's when they think they have the right to tell the rest of us how to live our lives and that's when they turn into socialists.

To prove my point, I have provided the following link. If it doesn't work, you'll either have to do your own research or accept my opinion as gospel.


http://www.merlinsaidso.com//hlywood\dipsticks\nutcakes

WOW MERLIN :clap

 

[Bonnie]

Originally posted by JohnRHS
To suggest that Michael Moore's patriotism comes into question because a terrorist organization enjoyed his movie is complete lunacy. By saying that, you're also saying that anyone else who has voiced anti-Bush or anti-war is also unpatriotic, because, after all, Hezbollah would agree with what they have to say as well.

However, you're ALL overlooking the Bill of Rights, which provides for all American citizens the right to free speech. All Michael Moore has done is excercise his right under completely legal means.

Furthermore, it is the obligation of the citizens of this great country to act as a system of checks and balances in regards to our government. America's governmental system is so great simply because we allow (and encourage) dissent. Our people's ever-watchful eye creates a "glass house" effect on our leaders-- it pushes them in the right direction because they know that their citizens are watching their every decision.

If you castigate everyone who voices a dissenting opinion, you're striving to a create a society that is neither free, nor open. And THAT, ladies and gentleman, is unpatriotic.

Here is the definition of Patriot according to The Oxford dictionary........ person who is devoted to and ready to support or defend his or her country.......

MM is niether of those things...........and Im exercising my right as a patriot to say that..........Furthermore yes Moore has the right to voice his opinion..he has crossed way over the line in making a movie that is nothing but lies that he claims is the truth, on top of which gives AID AND COMFORT TO THE ENEMY...........NOT PATRIOTIC.........TRAITOROUS.......................

 

[nycflasher]

Originally posted by Bonnie
Here is the definition of Patriot according to The Oxford dictionary........ person who is devoted to and ready to support or defend his or her country.......

MM is niether of those things...........and Im exercising my right as a patriot to say that..........Furthermore yes Moore has the right to voice his opinion..he has crossed way over the line in making a movie that is nothing but lies that he claims is the truth, on top of which gives AID AND COMFORT TO THE ENEMY...........NOT PATRIOTIC.........TRAITOROUS.......................

You don't get it.

Free speech is not traitorous.

The enemy might be "comforted" by the knowledge that I think Bush is an arrogant lunatic, but that doesn't make me a traitor. I would also snap the scrawny neck of a would be suicide-bomber if I had half a chance.

You have the right to your opinion, of course, just don't claim to fully understand patriotism.

Being patriotic is showing a love and devotion to your country.

In Moore's mind, getting Bush out of office is the most patriotic thing he can do.

 

[Bonnie]

Originally posted by nycflasher
You don't get it.

Free speech is not traitorous.

The enemy might be "comforted" by the knowledge that I think Bush is an arrogant lunatic, but that doesn't make me a traitor. I would also snap the scrawny neck of a would be suicide-bomber if I had half a chance.

You have the right to your opinion, of course, just don't claim to fully understand patriotism.

Being patriotic is showing a love and devotion to your country.

In Moore's mind, getting Bush out of office is the most patriotic thing he can do.

Flasher You can't honestly beleive that MM is doing what he thinks is right for the country? Its one thing to want Bush out of office, it's quite another to tell the world that our country is evil and devoted solely to money therefore we are the enemy around the world......That is ridiculous, and that is what gives terrorists more ammmunition to come after us like they really need more? Additonally Moore who claims to hate capitolism so much seems to have no problem in taking in money to slander our country

Secondly I take offense to your comments that I know nothing about patriotism. I love how you, and liberals use the holier than thou elitism to defend your position when you don't know what else to say. That one is getting very OLD......................

 

[insein]

Originally posted by nycflasher
You don't get it.

Free speech is not traitorous.

The enemy might be "comforted" by the knowledge that I think Bush is an arrogant lunatic, but that doesn't make me a traitor. I would also snap the scrawny neck of a would be suicide-bomber if I had half a chance.

You have the right to your opinion, of course, just don't claim to fully understand patriotism.

Being patriotic is showing a love and devotion to your country.

In Moore's mind, getting Bush out of office is the most patriotic thing he can do.

Moore is a traitor. He gives DIRECT Aide and Comfort to the enemy while denouncing his own country.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2004-04-14

First, can we stop the Orwellian language and start using the proper names for things? Those are not ?contractors? in Iraq. They are not there to fix a roof or to pour concrete in a driveway. They are MERCENARIES and SOLDIERS OF FORTUNE. They are there for the money, and the money is very good if you live long enough to spend it.

Halliburton is not a "company" doing business in Iraq. It is a WAR PROFITEER, bilking millions from the pockets of average Americans. In past wars they would have been arrested -- or worse.

The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents" or "terrorists" or "The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win. Get it, Mr. Bush? You closed down a friggin' weekly newspaper, you great giver of freedom and democracy! Then all hell broke loose. The paper only had 10,000 readers! Why are you smirking?

You tell me. Does that not AIDE the enemy by calling them the legitimate force while demonizing not only the American troops but the civiliains sent there to make life better for the millions of Iraqis who want them there?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Originally posted by Bonnie
Can anyone figure out why Hollywood is so socialistic? Do they get corrupted when they get famous? Or are they just so weak minded that they are afraid to not go along with the crowd for fear of being outcasts? I find myself perplexed by this.

I think the Hollyweird crowd follows the media people that give them the most attention that they crave. Since that is mostly the media run by lefties who churn out the rags on entertainment and other nonthinking venues, they naturally flock to them.

On the other hand, the Liberal politicians need star power support since they really haven't got much else going for them. The two of them together in a rag sells more papers so the media moguls encourage it.

It's a symbiotic relationship.

 

[nycflasher]

Originally posted by insein
Moore is a traitor.

So why hasn't he been charged?