dilloduck
Diamond Member
...and the only coming.
But Christians and messianic Jews view things differently, what we know for sure is that the messiah is a descendant of David (tzemach - branch of David), but at the same time we know that the messiah had to suffer and die for our transgressions. In a mind of a Talmudic rabbi you just can't connect 1000nds of years of messiah's kingdom with his suffering, so there were 2 major Talmudic interpretations (two messianic concepts), the messiah bed David(son of David) and another messiah son of Joseph (I hope everyone remembers the story of Joseph in Genesis), some thought that ben Yoseph will die before the coming of ben David etc, they just couldn't imagine that there are going to be 2 comings of the same Mashiach who is a physical descendant of David and a son of Joseph ben Jacob metaphorically.
http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0137.htm
Ahhhh --Messianic Jews don't follow Jesus because the see him as the messiah ?