Merry Pagan's Day

I'm sick of hearing you same people cry year in and year out. The fact that nobody knows the exact day Jesus was born is the reason why it is ok to celebrate it in December. Seriously going on these tangents about how Christians want their holiday so they can recognize their deity and yell Merry Christmas at people is becoming absurd. I think atheist and agnostics need Christmas so they can promote their refusal of a deity or lack of a relationship with the unknown deity therein. So much time is spent crying about Christian holidays yet Islam gives a whole month of the year to Allah and nobody says anything about that. When Hanukkah rolls around it is business as usual. When Eid rolls around for Islamic people well that's just fine. Halloween is here, splendid time for a marathon of scary movies and a party for the underdressed we will give that two thumbs up. But those pesky Christians and their purchasing power we should stone them for not being 100 percent accurate or knowledgeable on their religion.

This is especially annoying seeing as an agnostic believes in a higher power but is not certain who or what this higher power is. Yet you so vigorously deny that it could be the Trinitarian God head. That's your business and prerogative indeed. But shouldn't you look at what you see as contradictions as merely reasoning for what you would pronounce as logic as opposed to a reason to gripe. The fact is that Christianity is the religion that dominates the portion of the world you live in. If you were in the Middle east it would be Islam and all the holidays which are in accordance with their religion which are equally estimated. So on and so forth. If you were the intellectual you claim to be then you would have dealt with this fact long ago. Your 60 year old epiphany seems to coincide with your introduction to internet message boards and your childhood fantasy that maybe somebody would actually put value in what you say. You are an annoyance similar to the fly that I want to kill but my conscience keeps telling me the little bugger doesn't have much longer to live anyway. My suggestion, find an ocean and see how far you can swim.
 
I do not appreciate the contradictions of some of the customs we have come to believe in both the church and in family tradition. When I was younger, I was told to believe that Christmas was the birthday of Jesus Christ. But when reading more into this subject, I find that most theologians believe the birthday of Jesus was early fall. And I still don’t quite understand why Christians choose to build a tree and decorate it each year. On December 25th (which is actually the original birthday of Mithra, a pagan diety) the ancient greeks would chop down trees and decorate them in the name of their god, Adonia.

Regardless of the lies, half-truths, or justifications that Christians or any other group believe about Christmas. I think we all agree one thing; there is something special in our country during this time of year for children. If one thinks about it for a minute the travelers from afar brought gifts to the child...not every adult which happened to be standing around the stable.

The commercial aspects of Christmas have grown exponentially until now big corporations see 20%-25% of their years sales within a few weeks around Christmas. P.T. Barnum said, "There's A Sucker Born Every Minute."

How the fuck did you get to be 77 and learn absolutely nothing? Serious question.
 
Hey fellow old person.

Many Christians in the USA dont much like to think about the religions of others.

They prefer EVERYONE just pretend their religion is the ONLY one on earth and the ONLY one that gets to have holidays.

We all know how much Jesus was about insulting others by screaming things like merry Christmas at people in hopes they can bully them into agreeing with them.

The reason for the season after all is proving that Christ won the polls for best ever deity and everyone else should just shut up.

Still spreading lies and hate, huh, TruthMocker? How sad.
 
Cammmpbell have you ever considered seeking psychiatric help for your mental condition? :cool:

I'm 77 years old and retired to a lakeside brick rancher 17 years ago after supervising up to 41 computing and telecommunications employees in one of the largest mainframe computer centers in the country for 25 years. No....it never occurred to me.

How's your hammer hanging
I am impressed, not. You are still nuts.

So far my eight grandchildren and one great grandchild don't feel that way. 'Course I buy them gifts and take them on trips and we spend the night on the lake fishing. You know......fun stuff.
 
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Paganism is one thing. Commercialism is another. Christmas as practiced in America has both, as well as Christian elements. Please do not confuse them.
 
I'm sick of hearing you same people cry year in and year out. The fact that nobody knows the exact day Jesus was born is the reason why it is ok to celebrate it in December. Seriously going on these tangents about how Christians want their holiday so they can recognize their deity and yell Merry Christmas at people is becoming absurd. I think atheist and agnostics need Christmas so they can promote their refusal of a deity or lack of a relationship with the unknown deity therein. So much time is spent crying about Christian holidays yet Islam gives a whole month of the year to Allah and nobody says anything about that. When Hanukkah rolls around it is business as usual. When Eid rolls around for Islamic people well that's just fine. Halloween is here, splendid time for a marathon of scary movies and a party for the underdressed we will give that two thumbs up. But those pesky Christians and their purchasing power we should stone them for not being 100 percent accurate or knowledgeable on their religion.

This is especially annoying seeing as an agnostic believes in a higher power but is not certain who or what this higher power is. Yet you so vigorously deny that it could be the Trinitarian God head. That's your business and prerogative indeed. But shouldn't you look at what you see as contradictions as merely reasoning for what you would pronounce as logic as opposed to a reason to gripe. The fact is that Christianity is the religion that dominates the portion of the world you live in. If you were in the Middle east it would be Islam and all the holidays which are in accordance with their religion which are equally estimated. So on and so forth. If you were the intellectual you claim to be then you would have dealt with this fact long ago. Your 60 year old epiphany seems to coincide with your introduction to internet message boards and your childhood fantasy that maybe somebody would actually put value in what you say. You are an annoyance similar to the fly that I want to kill but my conscience keeps telling me the little bugger doesn't have much longer to live anyway. My suggestion, find an ocean and see how far you can swim.
The Bible speaks of these people, these self-proclaimed Christians. And it tells you what to do when you encounter them.

2 Timothy 3:1-5 KJV - This know also that in the last days - Bible Gateway

2 Timothy 3:5 said:
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
You know what that means right?
 
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Sorry bout that,


I do not appreciate the contradictions of some of the customs we have come to believe in both the church and in family tradition. When I was younger, I was told to believe that Christmas was the birthday of Jesus Christ. But when reading more into this subject, I find that most theologians believe the birthday of Jesus was early fall. And I still don’t quite understand why Christians choose to build a tree and decorate it each year. On December 25th (which is actually the original birthday of Mithra, a pagan diety) the ancient greeks would chop down trees and decorate them in the name of their god, Adonia.

Regardless of the lies, half-truths, or justifications that Christians or any other group believe about Christmas. I think we all agree one thing; there is something special in our country during this time of year for children. If one thinks about it for a minute the travelers from afar brought gifts to the child...not every adult which happened to be standing around the stable.

The commercial aspects of Christmas have grown exponentially until now big corporations see 20%-25% of their years sales within a few weeks around Christmas. P.T. Barnum said, "There's A Sucker Born Every Minute."



1. Lets throw out the baby with th bath water.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
 
I do not appreciate the contradictions of some of the customs we have come to believe in both the church and in family tradition. When I was younger, I was told to believe that Christmas was the birthday of Jesus Christ. But when reading more into this subject, I find that most theologians believe the birthday of Jesus was early fall. And I still don’t quite understand why Christians choose to build a tree and decorate it each year. On December 25th (which is actually the original birthday of Mithra, a pagan diety) the ancient greeks would chop down trees and decorate them in the name of their god, Adonia.

Regardless of the lies, half-truths, or justifications that Christians or any other group believe about Christmas. I think we all agree one thing; there is something special in our country during this time of year for children. If one thinks about it for a minute the travelers from afar brought gifts to the child...not every adult which happened to be standing around the stable.

The commercial aspects of Christmas have grown exponentially until now big corporations see 20%-25% of their years sales within a few weeks around Christmas. P.T. Barnum said, "There's A Sucker Born Every Minute."

I'm 77 years old and retired to a lakeside brick rancher 17 years ago after supervising up to 41 computing and telecommunications employees in one of the largest mainframe computer centers in the country for 25 years. No....it never occurred to me.

How's your hammer hanging




I'm not an atheist....I'm agnostic. I don't know and you don't either.

One thing I'm sure of....if there is we will all get an equal shot. Not just those who believe a fairy tale fantasy imagined by ignorant people during the stone age.

I'm not an atheist....I'm agnostic. I don't know and you don't either.

One thing I'm sure of....if there is we will all get an equal shot. Not just those who believe a fairy tale fantasy imagined by ignorant people during the stone age.



People who have these little jingles, jangles and dancing figures on their posts are the ass wipes. One has to search through the bullshit to find a post.

See the hate they just love spewing in the name of Jesus

Yep.....

:eusa_whistle:
 
I do not appreciate the contradictions of some of the customs we have come to believe in both the church and in family tradition. When I was younger, I was told to believe that Christmas was the birthday of Jesus Christ. But when reading more into this subject, I find that most theologians believe the birthday of Jesus was early fall. And I still don’t quite understand why Christians choose to build a tree and decorate it each year. On December 25th (which is actually the original birthday of Mithra, a pagan diety) the ancient greeks would chop down trees and decorate them in the name of their god, Adonia.

Regardless of the lies, half-truths, or justifications that Christians or any other group believe about Christmas. I think we all agree one thing; there is something special in our country during this time of year for children. If one thinks about it for a minute the travelers from afar brought gifts to the child...not every adult which happened to be standing around the stable.

The commercial aspects of Christmas have grown exponentially until now big corporations see 20%-25% of their years sales within a few weeks around Christmas. P.T. Barnum said, "There's A Sucker Born Every Minute."

I've said stuff like that... but then I realized nobody listens...

do you wanna really be a bore-ass, dude...?
 
Hey fellow old person.

Many Christians in the USA dont much like to think about the religions of others.

They prefer EVERYONE just pretend their religion is the ONLY one on earth and the ONLY one that gets to have holidays.

We all know how much Jesus was about insulting others by screaming things like merry Christmas at people in hopes they can bully them into agreeing with them.

The reason for the season after all is proving that Christ won the polls for best ever deity and everyone else should just shut up.

I'm sure you're of course merely being sarcastic about Jesus...

and can appreciate Jesus's actual message...
 
2 Timothy 3:1-5 KJV - This know also that in the last days - Bible Gateway

2 Timothy 3:5 said:
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
You know what that means right?

Romans 14:5 -9

One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. 6He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God. 7For not one of us lives for himself, and not one dies for himself; 8for if we live, we live for the Lord, or if we die, we die for the Lord; therefore whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s. 9For to this end Christ died and lived again, that He might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.
 
See the hate they just love spewing in the name of Jesus

LOL, cam is full of hate as this thread shows. I will never understand the need to knock down Christians that are never going to change their beliefs because of your meaningless meanderings on a message board. Leave them alone and they will leave you alone.
 
That's because they're instructed from birth, they're forced to memorize and pray multiple times..it's normal for them! Not at all like Christians that have a CHOICE, and a close communication with God. WE can talk to HIM anytime we want....not so with muslims.
Incorrect on several points.

Muslims do have a choice and can communicate with God on an intimate level anytime they want. :cool:
 
See the hate they just love spewing in the name of Jesus

LOL, cam is full of hate as this thread shows. I will never understand the need to knock down Christians that are never going to change their beliefs because of your meaningless meanderings on a message board. Leave them alone and they will leave you alone.

Maybe they won't change their belief but you know what......maybe they'll just shut up about it.

When I was in the third and fourth grades at McKensie(sic) and Milan, TN the teachers began our days with the pledge of allegiance and the lord's prayer. They assigned a bible verse to each of us on Mondays to memori e and recite back to the class on Fridays. We've already come a long way toward living up to the constitution and leaving that unadulterated crap out of our schools. I will never live to see it but maybe my grandchildren will live to see Thomas Jefferson and others among our forebears wishes come to pass:

"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."
~Thomas Jefferson~ letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823

When a past president of America felt comfortable saying this to a sitting president one can quickly reali e how close to theocrasy this nation found itself a short 60 years ago when the bible thumping right added "Under God" to our pledge and wrote into law the printing of "In God We Trust" on our currency while at the same time public schools were teaching young students the bible. At least I've had the privilege to witness that much change. Try teaching that Jesus bullshit in public schools today. The ACLU and hundreds of thousands of parents would be all over the schools as soon as they heard about it.
 
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See the hate they just love spewing in the name of Jesus

LOL, cam is full of hate as this thread shows. I will never understand the need to knock down Christians that are never going to change their beliefs because of your meaningless meanderings on a message board. Leave them alone and they will leave you alone.

Maybe they won't change their belief but you know what......maybe they'll just shut up about it.

When I was in the third and fourth grades at McKensie(sic) and Milan, TN the teachers began our days with the pledge of allegiance and the lord's prayer. They assigned a bible verse to each of us on Mondays to memori e and recite back to the class on Fridays. We've already come a long way toward living up to the constitution and leaving that unadulterated crap out of our schools. I will never live to see it but maybe my grandchildren will live to see Thomas Jefferson and others among our forebears wishes come to pass:

"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."
~Thomas Jefferson~ letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823

When a past president of America felt comfortable saying this to a sitting president one can quickly reali e how close to theocrasy this nation found itself a short 60 years ago when the bible thumping right added "Under God" to our pledge and wrote into law the printing of "In God We Trust" on our currency while at the same time public schools were teaching young students the bible. At least I've had the privilege to witness that much change. Try teaching that Jesus bullshit in public schools today. The ACLU and hundreds of thousands of parents would be all over the schools as soon as they heard about it.

As long as they feel attacked, no they will never shut up. That's the way it works, you get defensive when you get attacked. I agree, the vision of getting rid of the intolerance that comes with combining religion with government is a good goal and we are basically there. It never helps to call them fairy tales or call believers ignorant though. That spurs the opposite affect.
 
LOL, cam is full of hate as this thread shows. I will never understand the need to knock down Christians that are never going to change their beliefs because of your meaningless meanderings on a message board. Leave them alone and they will leave you alone.

Maybe they won't change their belief but you know what......maybe they'll just shut up about it.

When I was in the third and fourth grades at McKensie(sic) and Milan, TN the teachers began our days with the pledge of allegiance and the lord's prayer. They assigned a bible verse to each of us on Mondays to memori e and recite back to the class on Fridays. We've already come a long way toward living up to the constitution and leaving that unadulterated crap out of our schools. I will never live to see it but maybe my grandchildren will live to see Thomas Jefferson and others among our forebears wishes come to pass:

"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."
~Thomas Jefferson~ letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823

When a past president of America felt comfortable saying this to a sitting president one can quickly reali e how close to theocrasy this nation found itself a short 60 years ago when the bible thumping right added "Under God" to our pledge and wrote into law the printing of "In God We Trust" on our currency while at the same time public schools were teaching young students the bible. At least I've had the privilege to witness that much change. Try teaching that Jesus bullshit in public schools today. The ACLU and hundreds of thousands of parents would be all over the schools as soon as they heard about it.

As long as they feel attacked, no they will never shut up. That's the way it works, you get defensive when you get attacked. I agree, the vision of getting rid of the intolerance that comes with combining religion with government is a good goal and we are basically there. It never helps to call them fairy tales or call believers ignorant though. That spurs the opposite affect.

Yeah...the truth hurts so bad they ignore it.
 
Sorry bout that,


1. A fool forgets God, and disregards, his wisdom, and the American schools reflect that.
2. The further America separates God from the minds of the children, the further behind the children will fall in *ALL* academia.
3. You raise a child in a cave by himself, he will know nothing.
4. Without God in *ALL* aspects of your life, the American children, will know nothing, certainly not that has roots in wisdom.
5. Morality is the fundamental foundation to *ALL* wisdom, for without it, you're just a cave dweller and vagabond.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
 
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Sorry bout that,


1. A fool forgets God, and disregards, his wisdom, and the American schools reflect that.
2. The further America separates God from the minds of the children, the further behind the children will fall in *ALL* academia.
3. You raise a child in a cave by himself, he will know nothing.
4. Without God in *ALL* aspects of your life, the American children, will know nothing, certainly not that has roots in wisdom.
5. Morality is the fundamental foundation to *ALL* wisdom, for without it, you're just a cave dweller and vagabond.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Pardon me.....those children who were raised in a cave is where all the god stiuff came from originally. Son-of-god, born of a virgin, savior of the world, chucifiction, resurrection etc. That story was told in ancient Egypt 3000 years before the Jewish version. Anybody who tries to convince me that a loving, caring, god of the universe dropped my one time during the stone age and left the only keys to the kingdom with a bunch of folks who believed in witchcraft and thought the earth was flat only prove how naive or brainwashed they are.
 

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