Masturbation's Good For You

[Delta4Embassy]

And I haven't lost sight of the purpose of the thread..this thread was created as an offshoot of the meme that porn addiction is the same thing as masturbation, and therefore porn is just a natural, healthy sexual outlet for young men.

Actually, I created it in rebuttal to the Mormons' anti-masturbation thread.

Actually, you created to it perpetuate the myth that Mormon's are anti-masturbation, when in fact they are anti-porn addiction.

In other words, you created it to promote porn addiction as *healthy*.

(looks up the world's most annoying word and rebuttal.)

Whatever.

 

[koshergrl]

It was established that the mormons never took at stand against masturbation, so you pranced here to start another thread about how healthy porn is.

It's not so much annoying as disgusting, and scary.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

It was established that the mormons never took at stand against masturbation, so you pranced here to start another thread about how healthy porn is.

It's not so much annoying as disgusting, and scary.

This goes on for miles but you can start here.

Creepy is putting it very mildly. Its flat out sick.

Just like you.





Mormon Quotes on Masturbation

“... it [masturbation] too often leads to grievous sin, even to that sin against nature, homosexuality. For, done in private, it evolves often into mutual masturbation – practiced with another person of the same sex – and thence into total homosexuality.”

- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, p. 78

"Prophets anciently and today condemn masturbation. It induces feelings of guilt and shame. It is detrimental to spirituality. It indicates slavery to the flesh, not that mastery of it and the growth toward godhood which is the object of our mortal life.... No young man should be called on a mission who is not free from this practice."

- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, p. 77

“Masturbation is a sinful habit that robs one of the Spirit and creates guilt and emotional stress. It is not physically harmful unless practiced in the extreme. It is a habit that is totally self-centered, and secretive, and in no way expresses the proper use of the procreative power given to man to fulfill eternal purposes. It therefore separates a person from God, and defeats the gospel plan.
“This self-gratifying activity will cause one to lose his self-respect and feel guilty and depressed, which can in the extreme lead to further sinning. As a person feels spiritually unclean, he loses interest in prayer, his testimony becomes weak, and missionary work and other Church callings become burdensome, offering no joy and limited success...”

- Apostle Mark E. Peterson, “Overcoming Masturbation: A Guide to Self Control,” distributed by the LDS Church

Apostle Mark E. Peterson then lists the steps in overcoming masturbation:

1. Never touch the intimate parts of your body expect during normal toilet processes.
2. Avoid being alone as much as possible. Find good company and stay in this good company.
3. If you are associated with other persons having this same problem, YOU MUST BREAK OFF THEIR FRIENDSHIP. Never associate with other people having the same weakness. Don't suppose that two of you will quit together, you never will. You must get away from people of that kind. Just to be in their presence will keep your problem foremost in your mind. The problem must be taken OUT OF YOUR MIND for that is where it really exists. Your mind must be on other and more wholesome things.
4. When you bathe, do not admire yourself in a mirror. Never stay in the bath more than five or six minutes--just long enough to bathe and dry and dress AND THEN GET OUT OF THE BATHROOM into a room where you will have some member of your family present.
5. When in bed, if that is where you have your problem for the most part, dress yourself for the night so securely that you cannot easily touch your vital parts, and so that it would be difficult and time consuming for you to remove those clothes. By the time you started to remove protective clothing, you would have sufficiently controlled your thinking that the temptation would leave you.
6. If the temptation seems overpowering while you are in bed, get out of bed and go into the kitchen and fix yourself a snack, even if it is in the middle of the night, and even if you are not hungry, and despite of your fears of gaining weight. The purpose behind this suggestion is that you GET YOUR MIND ON SOMETHING ELSE. You change the subject of your thoughts, so to speak.
7. Never read pornographic material. Never read about your problem. Keep it out of your mind. Remember--"first a thought, then an act." The thought pattern must be changed. You must not allow this problem to remain in your mind. When you accomplish that, you soon will be free of the act.
8. Put wholesome thoughts into your mind at all times. Read good books--Church books-scriptures--sermons of the brethren. Make a daily habit of reading at least one chapter of scripture, preferable from one of the four gospels in the New Testament, or the Book of Mormon. The four gospels--Matthew, Mark, Luke and John--above anything else in the Bible can be helpful because of their uplifting qualities.

- Apostle Mark E. Peterson, “Overcoming Masturbation: A Guide to Self Control”

 

[Delta4Embassy]

It was established that the mormons never took at stand against masturbation, so you pranced here to start another thread about how healthy porn is.

It's not so much annoying as disgusting, and scary.

This goes on for miles but you can start here.

Creepy is putting it very mildly. Its flat out sick.

Just like you.





Mormon Quotes on Masturbation

“... it [masturbation] too often leads to grievous sin, even to that sin against nature, homosexuality. For, done in private, it evolves often into mutual masturbation – practiced with another person of the same sex – and thence into total homosexuality.”

- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, p. 78

"Prophets anciently and today condemn masturbation. It induces feelings of guilt and shame. It is detrimental to spirituality. It indicates slavery to the flesh, not that mastery of it and the growth toward godhood which is the object of our mortal life.... No young man should be called on a mission who is not free from this practice."

- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, p. 77

“Masturbation is a sinful habit that robs one of the Spirit and creates guilt and emotional stress. It is not physically harmful unless practiced in the extreme. It is a habit that is totally self-centered, and secretive, and in no way expresses the proper use of the procreative power given to man to fulfill eternal purposes. It therefore separates a person from God, and defeats the gospel plan.
“This self-gratifying activity will cause one to lose his self-respect and feel guilty and depressed, which can in the extreme lead to further sinning. As a person feels spiritually unclean, he loses interest in prayer, his testimony becomes weak, and missionary work and other Church callings become burdensome, offering no joy and limited success...”

- Apostle Mark E. Peterson, “Overcoming Masturbation: A Guide to Self Control,” distributed by the LDS Church

Apostle Mark E. Peterson then lists the steps in overcoming masturbation:

1. Never touch the intimate parts of your body expect during normal toilet processes.
2. Avoid being alone as much as possible. Find good company and stay in this good company.
3. If you are associated with other persons having this same problem, YOU MUST BREAK OFF THEIR FRIENDSHIP. Never associate with other people having the same weakness. Don't suppose that two of you will quit together, you never will. You must get away from people of that kind. Just to be in their presence will keep your problem foremost in your mind. The problem must be taken OUT OF YOUR MIND for that is where it really exists. Your mind must be on other and more wholesome things.
4. When you bathe, do not admire yourself in a mirror. Never stay in the bath more than five or six minutes--just long enough to bathe and dry and dress AND THEN GET OUT OF THE BATHROOM into a room where you will have some member of your family present.
5. When in bed, if that is where you have your problem for the most part, dress yourself for the night so securely that you cannot easily touch your vital parts, and so that it would be difficult and time consuming for you to remove those clothes. By the time you started to remove protective clothing, you would have sufficiently controlled your thinking that the temptation would leave you.
6. If the temptation seems overpowering while you are in bed, get out of bed and go into the kitchen and fix yourself a snack, even if it is in the middle of the night, and even if you are not hungry, and despite of your fears of gaining weight. The purpose behind this suggestion is that you GET YOUR MIND ON SOMETHING ELSE. You change the subject of your thoughts, so to speak.
7. Never read pornographic material. Never read about your problem. Keep it out of your mind. Remember--"first a thought, then an act." The thought pattern must be changed. You must not allow this problem to remain in your mind. When you accomplish that, you soon will be free of the act.
8. Put wholesome thoughts into your mind at all times. Read good books--Church books-scriptures--sermons of the brethren. Make a daily habit of reading at least one chapter of scripture, preferable from one of the four gospels in the New Testament, or the Book of Mormon. The four gospels--Matthew, Mark, Luke and John--above anything else in the Bible can be helpful because of their uplifting qualities.

- Apostle Mark E. Peterson, “Overcoming Masturbation: A Guide to Self Control”

...Was I the only one who while reading all that stuff about Mormons not-masturbating got turned on?

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Question occurs, do people who talk so much about sex and masturbating do so so they can talk about sex and masturbating 'under cover?'

 

[koshergrl]

You and the other perverts, I'm sure. After all, it's about young college aged males being addicted to porn. Right up your alley, I'm sure.

 

[koshergrl]

Question occurs, do people who talk so much about sex and masturbating do so so they can talk about sex and masturbating 'under cover?'

You talk more about sex and masturbating more than all the rest of us put together, stud.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

You and the other perverts, I'm sure. After all, it's about young college aged males being addicted to porn. Right up your alley, I'm sure.

So to speak.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Question occurs, do people who talk so much about sex and masturbating do so so they can talk about sex and masturbating 'under cover?'

You talk more about sex and masturbating more than all the rest of us put together, stud.

Mmm, dunno about that. My pro-threads seem to have more responses by otherpeople dissing them. Yet you can't write a dis in the threads without first reading the threads. If so against it, why ya keep reading, reading the replies, and writing your's in a thread you can't stand?

Are lots of threads I'm sure in the Rubber Room and other groups I never even look at let alone reply to. Reason being I'm not interested in or agree with them enough to participate. You're hypocrisy is showing and flashing like a neon sign at night everytime you do.

If you wanna write and discuss sex, do so. Don't have to act like you don't like it when it's clear you do.

 

[koshergrl]

Question occurs, do people who talk so much about sex and masturbating do so so they can talk about sex and masturbating 'under cover?'

You talk more about sex and masturbating more than all the rest of us put together, stud.

Mmm, dunno about that. My pro-threads seem to have more responses by otherpeople dissing them. Yet you can't write a dis in the threads without first reading the threads. If so against it, why ya keep reading, reading the replies, and writing your's in a thread you can't stand?

Are lots of threads I'm sure in the Rubber Room and other groups I never even look at let alone reply to. Reason being I'm not interested in or agree with them enough to participate. You're hypocrisy is showing and flashing like a neon sign at night everytime you do.

If you wanna write and discuss sex, do so. Don't have to act like you don't like it when it's clear you do.

Your *pro-threads*?

What's a *pro-thread*? You mean your "everybody should masturbate continually because it's healthy!" thread?

Yuck, you're freaking slimy, btw. And scary.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Question occurs, do people who talk so much about sex and masturbating do so so they can talk about sex and masturbating 'under cover?'

You talk more about sex and masturbating more than all the rest of us put together, stud.

Mmm, dunno about that. My pro-threads seem to have more responses by otherpeople dissing them. Yet you can't write a dis in the threads without first reading the threads. If so against it, why ya keep reading, reading the replies, and writing your's in a thread you can't stand?

Are lots of threads I'm sure in the Rubber Room and other groups I never even look at let alone reply to. Reason being I'm not interested in or agree with them enough to participate. You're hypocrisy is showing and flashing like a neon sign at night everytime you do.

If you wanna write and discuss sex, do so. Don't have to act like you don't like it when it's clear you do.

Your *pro-threads*?

What's a *pro-thread*? You mean your "everybody should masturbate continually because it's healthy!" thread?

Yuck, you're freaking slimy, btw. And scary.

More you write, more I believe in sex addicition. Just can't help yourself can you?

 

[koshergrl]

What's a *pro-thread* please? What exactly do you think/intend to promote with them?

Pornography? Homosexuality?

 

[Valerie]

Your *pro-threads*?

What's a *pro-thread*? You mean your "everybody should masturbate continually because it's healthy!" thread?

Yuck, you're freaking slimy, btw. And scary.

some creeps will do anything for attention...

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Your *pro-threads*?

What's a *pro-thread*? You mean your "everybody should masturbate continually because it's healthy!" thread?

Yuck, you're freaking slimy, btw. And scary.

some creeps will do anything for attention...

Notice that @koshergl is studiously ignoring that she is wrong about the morm's stand on masturbation.

She wants lots of attention but don't expect her to admit that she is almost always wrong and/or lies.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Your *pro-threads*?

What's a *pro-thread*? You mean your "everybody should masturbate continually because it's healthy!" thread?

Yuck, you're freaking slimy, btw. And scary.

some creeps will do anything for attention...

Notice that @koshergl is studiously ignoring that she is wrong about the morm's stand on masturbation.

She wants lots of attention but don't expect her to admit that she is almost always wrong and/or lies.

Listening to the voices in my head (and Inbox) she became the first person in my time here to get onto Ignore. I 'Yeshu'd her.

Shoulda put people on ignore long ago. Works better than I'd thought it would. Thought I'd still see quoted replies from other people like, no, not so much.

 

[Statistikhengst]

This is one whacked off thread.

 

[ChrisL]

Your *pro-threads*?

What's a *pro-thread*? You mean your "everybody should masturbate continually because it's healthy!" thread?

Yuck, you're freaking slimy, btw. And scary.

some creeps will do anything for attention...

Notice that @koshergl is studiously ignoring that she is wrong about the morm's stand on masturbation.

She wants lots of attention but don't expect her to admit that she is almost always wrong and/or lies.

Listening to the voices in my head (and Inbox) she became the first person in my time here to get onto Ignore. I 'Yeshu'd her.

Shoulda put people on ignore long ago. Works better than I'd thought it would. Thought I'd still see quoted replies from other people like, no, not so much.

That is why I do not like to have people on ignore. You end up missing big chunks of the conversation and some great rebuttals! If I want to ignore a person, I just ignore them in the real life way. No need to "block" them IMO.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Your *pro-threads*?

What's a *pro-thread*? You mean your "everybody should masturbate continually because it's healthy!" thread?

Yuck, you're freaking slimy, btw. And scary.

some creeps will do anything for attention...

Notice that @koshergl is studiously ignoring that she is wrong about the morm's stand on masturbation.

She wants lots of attention but don't expect her to admit that she is almost always wrong and/or lies.

Listening to the voices in my head (and Inbox) she became the first person in my time here to get onto Ignore. I 'Yeshu'd her.

Shoulda put people on ignore long ago. Works better than I'd thought it would. Thought I'd still see quoted replies from other people like, no, not so much.

That is why I do not like to have people on ignore. You end up missing big chunks of the conversation and some great rebuttals! If I want to ignore a person, I just ignore them in the real life way. No need to "block" them IMO.

Been trying the 'visually ignore' thing up to this point. Most I can do so that way, but some subjects and people are too taxing. Been telling myself she isn't going to say anything I wanna read for a while, but constantly look when I see Alerts of her quoting me. So this was the best option.

 

[koshergrl]

You notice he put me on ignore so he wouldn't have to answer the question regarding what he's "pro" for.

 

[Valerie]

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   We are predators afterall

   
   
   creepy...