Massachuettes orders residents to surrender bump stocks

[Old Rocks]

If they're not paying owners of such stocks fair market value for any such stocks turns in, then they are violating the Fifth Amendment prohibitions against taking private property without just compensation and without due process of law.

If they are giving such compensation, then they are fraudulently misusing taxpayer funds to do so.

Either way, even without taking into consideration the Second Amendment, Massachusetts is acting illegally, here.

Nonetheless... That won't stop owners from going to jail when a neighbor reports "automatic" gunfire coming from your property. The northeast is turning into a gulag...

If they don't have a class 3 license and have a gun that can be fired like a machine gun, they belong in jail.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The state of Massachusetts is ordering residents to surrender any bump stocks in their possession, making clear that even keeping such an accessory at home is prohibited.
Massachusetts Orders Residents to Surrender Bump Stocks
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No, they haven't been trying to take the guns.........They have been working on it since Obama and a little during Bush.
States are starting to wheedle away the peopel's rights.

If they are caught with them in their possession

Lock them up

FK that, LOL it's unconstitutional for these pricks to even do this bs.

Second amendment says nothing about bump stocks

1st amendment says nothing about radio, television or the internet either, so what's your point?

 

[Old Rocks]

If they're not paying owners of such stocks fair market value for any such stocks turns in, then they are violating the Fifth Amendment prohibitions against taking private property without just compensation and without due process of law.

If they are giving such compensation, then they are fraudulently misusing taxpayer funds to do so.

Either way, even without taking into consideration the Second Amendment, Massachusetts is acting illegally, here.

Fuck all of that. Just put charge them with a federal felony for owning a full automatic rifle without a class 3 license.

 

[Wyatt earp]

If they're not paying owners of such stocks fair market value for any such stocks turns in, then they are violating the Fifth Amendment prohibitions against taking private property without just compensation and without due process of law.

If they are giving such compensation, then they are fraudulently misusing taxpayer funds to do so.

Either way, even without taking into consideration the Second Amendment, Massachusetts is acting illegally, here.

Nonetheless... That won't stop owners from going to jail when a neighbor reports "automatic" gunfire coming from your property. The northeast is turning into a gulag...

If they don't have a class 3 license and have a gun that can be fired like a machine gun, they belong in jail.

People with a class 3 license can't own one either in Massachusetts, why?

 

[Wyatt earp]

If they're not paying owners of such stocks fair market value for any such stocks turns in, then they are violating the Fifth Amendment prohibitions against taking private property without just compensation and without due process of law.

If they are giving such compensation, then they are fraudulently misusing taxpayer funds to do so.

Either way, even without taking into consideration the Second Amendment, Massachusetts is acting illegally, here.

Fuck all of that. Just put charge them with a federal felony for owning a full automatic rifle without a class 3 license.

How does Massachusetts law equal a federal felony retard?

 

[Vastator]

If they're not paying owners of such stocks fair market value for any such stocks turns in, then they are violating the Fifth Amendment prohibitions against taking private property without just compensation and without due process of law.

If they are giving such compensation, then they are fraudulently misusing taxpayer funds to do so.

Either way, even without taking into consideration the Second Amendment, Massachusetts is acting illegally, here.

Fuck all of that. Just put charge them with a federal felony for owning a full automatic rifle without a class 3 license.

They can't. A stock isn't a rifle... Nice try though. You'll have to work a bit harder than that for your check from the PIC...

 

[Old Rocks]

If they're not paying owners of such stocks fair market value for any such stocks turns in, then they are violating the Fifth Amendment prohibitions against taking private property without just compensation and without due process of law.

If they are giving such compensation, then they are fraudulently misusing taxpayer funds to do so.

Either way, even without taking into consideration the Second Amendment, Massachusetts is acting illegally, here.

Oh for Gawd's sake, what hyperbole.

#1 If a person owns a bump stock, which it is now illegal to possess in MA, a person can voluntarily turn it in to the police. No harm no foul as the voluntary surrender demonstrates compliance with the law.

#2 If a person owns a bump stock, which it is now illegal to possess in MA, a person can voluntarily destroy it on their own without turning it into the government. (I would suggests maintaining documentation showing the destruction.) No harm no foul as the voluntary surrender demonstrates compliance with the law as the individual no longer is in possession of a bump stock.

#3 If a person owns a bump stock, which is now illegal to possess in MA and decides to violate the law and retrain the bump stock then they are subject to arrest. Upon arrest the bump stock becomes evidence of a crime and will be confiscated and held for trial. Having a trial is the very embodiment of "due process".


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The law is unconstitutional, look at the link it says even the guys that hold Automatic weapons permits can not have them.

If you have a class 3 license, why in the world would you want a bump stock?

 

[2aguy]

Do you like it when people are slaughtered?

No...considering one bumpstock out of thousands was used, once, to kill people...I don't think it is a real problem...

Do you care when people are slaughtered by rental Trucks?

The guy in vegas used a bumpstock, firing over 1,000 rounds of ammunition into a tightly packed crowd of over 22,000 people.......firing for over 10 minutes while it took the police over an hour to breach his door, and murdered 58 people.

The muslim terrorist in Nice, France, used a rental truck, 19.99 dollars if he had rented it here in the states.....and used it to murder 86 people and wound 458...

Do you care about slaughter.....? Then why don't you want to ban rental trucks...since they are deadlier than even a rifle with a bumpstock....

moron.

 

[Wyatt earp]

If they're not paying owners of such stocks fair market value for any such stocks turns in, then they are violating the Fifth Amendment prohibitions against taking private property without just compensation and without due process of law.

If they are giving such compensation, then they are fraudulently misusing taxpayer funds to do so.

Either way, even without taking into consideration the Second Amendment, Massachusetts is acting illegally, here.

Oh for Gawd's sake, what hyperbole.

#1 If a person owns a bump stock, which it is now illegal to possess in MA, a person can voluntarily turn it in to the police. No harm no foul as the voluntary surrender demonstrates compliance with the law.

#2 If a person owns a bump stock, which it is now illegal to possess in MA, a person can voluntarily destroy it on their own without turning it into the government. (I would suggests maintaining documentation showing the destruction.) No harm no foul as the voluntary surrender demonstrates compliance with the law as the individual no longer is in possession of a bump stock.

#3 If a person owns a bump stock, which is now illegal to possess in MA and decides to violate the law and retrain the bump stock then they are subject to arrest. Upon arrest the bump stock becomes evidence of a crime and will be confiscated and held for trial. Having a trial is the very embodiment of "due process".


>>>>

The law is unconstitutional, look at the link it says even the guys that hold Automatic weapons permits can not have them.

If you have a class 3 license, why in the world would you want a bump stock?

Why wouldn't they? Gun nuts like all that stuff.

 

[2aguy]

The state of Massachusetts is ordering residents to surrender any bump stocks in their possession, making clear that even keeping such an accessory at home is prohibited.
Massachusetts Orders Residents to Surrender Bump Stocks
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No, they haven't been trying to take the guns.........They have been working on it since Obama and a little during Bush.
States are starting to wheedle away the peopel's rights.

What can happens in the disarmed US look Germany.
Merkel loves defenseless citizens and promotes her own Anti-White Agenda!

Germany wasn`t disarmed and Merkel is the leader of the free world.

It was disarmed in the 1920s...then they used the registration lists to disarm and then murder 12 million people......

 

[2aguy]

The state of Massachusetts is ordering residents to surrender any bump stocks in their possession, making clear that even keeping such an accessory at home is prohibited.
Massachusetts Orders Residents to Surrender Bump Stocks
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No, they haven't been trying to take the guns.........They have been working on it since Obama and a little during Bush.
States are starting to wheedle away the peopel's rights.

What can happens in the disarmed US look Germany.
Merkel loves defenseless citizens and promotes her own Anti-White Agenda!

Germany wasn`t disarmed and Merkel is the leader of the free world.

Germany has the toughest Weapon Laws in the World, even having knives is prohibited.
Free World.....LOL......Do you mind the Part of it controlled by Deep State and Israel?

I would trade Germany`s murder rate for ours in a heartbeat. What a sad day it will be when we no longer have the freedom to shoot 500 people at a concert or gun down a classroom full of second graders.

Their murder rate has nothing to do with their gun laws....and will have a lot to do with their immigration laws....you morons don't understand that normal people who own and carry guns don't shoot people or use guns to commit crimes...

You focus on law abiding people, and let criminals go.......

 

[2aguy]

The state of Massachusetts is ordering residents to surrender any bump stocks in their possession, making clear that even keeping such an accessory at home is prohibited.
Massachusetts Orders Residents to Surrender Bump Stocks
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No, they haven't been trying to take the guns.........They have been working on it since Obama and a little during Bush.
States are starting to wheedle away the peopel's rights.

Bitch, that accessory makes a semi into a full automatic rifle. Therefore having one without a Class 3 license is illegal.

Because the NRA and fools like you have made guns so available to the crazies, you are going to find gun laws put into affect that even I don't like. You and the NRA are the danger to my rights to own firearms, not the liberals.

No...the ones allowing criminals to get guns are democrats...who fight tough sentencing laws for violent criminals and violent gun offenders...the NRA actually tries to keep criminals who use guns in Jail....while democrats need their voters out of jail to vote with their gangs....


California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.

and for all those anti-gunners who want to know where criminals get guns....well...this law lowers the prison time for those who give guns to criminals.....

Why is that?

Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


supplying a firearm to a gang member,

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felon obtaining a firearm,

discharging a firearm on school grounds

 

[miketx]

Having been shown the PROOF that no stock in needed to emulate automatic fire, regressive liberal scumbags continue to smoke lie and deflect about a non issue.

 

[rightwinger]

The state of Massachusetts is ordering residents to surrender any bump stocks in their possession, making clear that even keeping such an accessory at home is prohibited.
Massachusetts Orders Residents to Surrender Bump Stocks
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

No, they haven't been trying to take the guns.........They have been working on it since Obama and a little during Bush.
States are starting to wheedle away the peopel's rights.

If they are caught with them in their possession

Lock them up

FK that, LOL it's unconstitutional for these pricks to even do this bs.

Second amendment says nothing about bump stocks

1st amendment says nothing about radio, television or the internet either, so what's your point?

The point is you have no constitutional right to own a bump stock

 

[Wyatt earp]

The state of Massachusetts is ordering residents to surrender any bump stocks in their possession, making clear that even keeping such an accessory at home is prohibited.
Massachusetts Orders Residents to Surrender Bump Stocks
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

No, they haven't been trying to take the guns.........They have been working on it since Obama and a little during Bush.
States are starting to wheedle away the peopel's rights.

If they are caught with them in their possession

Lock them up

FK that, LOL it's unconstitutional for these pricks to even do this bs.

Second amendment says nothing about bump stocks

1st amendment says nothing about radio, television or the internet either, so what's your point?

The point is you have no constitutional right to own a bump stock

Yea you do is 2 amendment

 

[Pogo]

If they're not paying owners of such stocks fair market value for any such stocks turns in, then they are violating the Fifth Amendment prohibitions against taking private property without just compensation and without due process of law.

If they are giving such compensation, then they are fraudulently misusing taxpayer funds to do so.

Either way, even without taking into consideration the Second Amendment, Massachusetts is acting illegally, here.

Really? Link to the Amendment that says "the right of the People to stock up on accessories that allow mass slaughterers to mow down dozens at a time without pesky interruptions" is where again?

Do you have any clue at all of the vast difference between a Stephen Paddock arsenal, and the musket technology of the time of the writing of the 2A when the Minié Ball hadn't even been invented yet? Any clue whatsoever?

Ever heard of a mass shooting with a musket? That could be your first clue.

 

[Vastator]

The state of Massachusetts is ordering residents to surrender any bump stocks in their possession, making clear that even keeping such an accessory at home is prohibited.
Massachusetts Orders Residents to Surrender Bump Stocks
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

No, they haven't been trying to take the guns.........They have been working on it since Obama and a little during Bush.
States are starting to wheedle away the peopel's rights.

Bitch, that accessory makes a semi into a full automatic rifle. Therefore having one without a Class 3 license is illegal.

Because the NRA and fools like you have made guns so available to the crazies, you are going to find gun laws put into affect that even I don't like. You and the NRA are the danger to my rights to own firearms, not the liberals.

No...the ones allowing criminals to get guns are democrats...who fight tough sentencing laws for violent criminals and violent gun offenders...the NRA actually tries to keep criminals who use guns in Jail....while democrats need their voters out of jail to vote with their gangs....


California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.

and for all those anti-gunners who want to know where criminals get guns....well...this law lowers the prison time for those who give guns to criminals.....

Why is that?

Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


supplying a firearm to a gang member,

l
felon obtaining a firearm,

discharging a firearm on school grounds

The NRA is no friend of the 2nd amendment loving public. Don't be decieved. They do nothing but shill for gun manufacturers, and beg gun owners for money. Ask yourself this; " as a non profit, how can the NRA pay LaPierre a salary of $900,000 a year"? Because they get rich stumping for the gun industry, that's how.
"Why at a recent convention did the NRA shut out the USCCA?"
Because the USCCA offers insurance for gun owners involved in legal shootings. A piece of the pie the NRA wanted, and has since gotten in on. So they stepped on the "competition". Strange behavior for a 2nd amendment supporting nonprofit; dontcha think?
Let's not forget the NRAs kneejerk reaction of jumping on board with a ban for bump fire stocks, hot of the heels of the Las Vegas shooting either.
No major piece of suggested gun legislation has been shopped around, without first passing through the halls of the NRA. Who's prime tactic is to instill fear in gun owners, and drive up sales for the gun manufacturers that they truly serve.
A lot of folks need to do some research into who the NRA is; and what they have done, and what they continue to do. You'll quickly realize that the NRA is no friend of the average gun owner...
Fuck the NRA!

 

[2aguy]

If they're not paying owners of such stocks fair market value for any such stocks turns in, then they are violating the Fifth Amendment prohibitions against taking private property without just compensation and without due process of law.

If they are giving such compensation, then they are fraudulently misusing taxpayer funds to do so.

Either way, even without taking into consideration the Second Amendment, Massachusetts is acting illegally, here.

Really? Link to the Amendment that says "the right of the People to stock up on accessories that allow mass slaughterers to mow down dozens at a time without pesky interruptions" is where again?

Do you have any clue at all of the vast difference between a Stephen Paddock arsenal, and the musket technology of the time of the writing of the 2A when the Minié Ball hadn't even been invented yet? Any clue whatsoever?

Ever heard of a mass shooting with a musket? That could be your first clue.

Dipshit....all of these state that the 2nd Amendment protects weapons used by the military......that's how...so fully automatic rifles are also protected.....so a bump stock, which isn't fully automatic is also protected...numb nuts....



Heller:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

Cruikshank:

United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1875)

Murdoch v. Pennsylvania, fee for exercising a Right:

Murdock v. Pennsylvania, 319 U.S. 105 (1943)

McDonald v. Chicago

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/09pdf/08-1521.pdf

Miller........weapons used by the military are protected

United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939)

Hayes....felons don't have to register guns

FindLaw's United States Supreme Court case and opinions.

Caetano stun guns, Dangerous doesn't ban a gun...military weapons are protected
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/15pdf/14-10078_aplc.pdf

 

[2aguy]

If they're not paying owners of such stocks fair market value for any such stocks turns in, then they are violating the Fifth Amendment prohibitions against taking private property without just compensation and without due process of law.

If they are giving such compensation, then they are fraudulently misusing taxpayer funds to do so.

Either way, even without taking into consideration the Second Amendment, Massachusetts is acting illegally, here.

Really? Link to the Amendment that says "the right of the People to stock up on accessories that allow mass slaughterers to mow down dozens at a time without pesky interruptions" is where again?

Do you have any clue at all of the vast difference between a Stephen Paddock arsenal, and the musket technology of the time of the writing of the 2A when the Minié Ball hadn't even been invented yet? Any clue whatsoever?

Ever heard of a mass shooting with a musket? That could be your first clue.

Hey....dumb shit....

He used 2 rifles, at least one with a bumpstock........out of the thousands in private hands......he fired over 1,000 rounds of ammo, which he could have done without the stock ,and would have actually hit more people with lethal accuracy, firing into a tightly packed crowd of over 22,000 people from a concealed position.....

He murdered 58.

A muslim terrorist in Nice, France, using a rental truck murdered 86 people in 5 minutes wounding 458.

Which is deadlier, asshole.......the rifle with a bumpstock or the rental truck...?

 

[rightwinger]

If they are caught with them in their possession

Lock them up

FK that, LOL it's unconstitutional for these pricks to even do this bs.

Second amendment says nothing about bump stocks

1st amendment says nothing about radio, television or the internet either, so what's your point?

The point is you have no constitutional right to own a bump stock

Yea you do is 2 amendment

Second amendment does not give the right to an automatic weapon