Mandate moved back, LOL

[JoeB131]

It went rightover your head what I was saying.

NO, I just get really tired of you conservatives blaming average working Americans for the Screwover your Corporate Masters inflict on us every day.

No, I just get really tired of you leftards blaming the people who provide jobs and wealth in our country, for the screwover you and your socialist masters inflict on us every day.

Hey stupid, I am the average working American. You don't get to speak for me. And I have yet to be screwed over by a corporation, but I get screwed over by *YOU* and the dumbass idiots you support every day.

Right now I have a $3,000 tax bill, and I made only $18,000 last year. Who is screwing me over, the corporations that gave me a job, and a wage, or the mindless dumb as hell leftards like you? Answer, you. You screw over the average working Americans more than the corporations ever will, or ever have.

You people have the highest standard of living on the planet, and all you can do is complain. Envious greedy, mindless idiots, all of you.

Guy, if you only made 18K last year, you are definitely siding with the wrong people.

I won't even talk abuot your taxes... obviously, you don't know what you are doing.

 

[Meister]

Nope, hasn't occurred to me at all.

If you aren't seeing a doctor regularly, you wouldn't have the nagging. My doctor nagged me about my weight until I did something about it.

But keep telling yourself that those poor people don't deserve to see doctors.

It went rightover your head what I was saying.

NO, I just get really tired of you conservatives blaming average working Americans for the Screwover your Corporate Masters inflict on us every day.

What in hell does your post have to do with doctors and healthcare, Joe?????
Get your ass handed to you and so you change the subject and move on to another point from your socialist bag of talking points?

You don't like people who are rich, I get that. I'm glad I live in a country where we can work hard and save money and be able to accumulate wealth.
You should have tried it instead of complaining that others are more successful than you in life. Quit your whining, son.

 

[asterism]

No, douchebag.

What I want is the system your industry fucked up to get fixed.

I don't want my health care ever held hostage by an employer ever again.

Single Payer. What we should have done from the get-go.

You don't want your healthcare held hostage by an employer, but you're happy to have it held hostage by government.

Major difference.

I can vote teh government out if it isn't doing its job.

How's that working out with regards to your wishes on tax and labor?

 

[JoeB131]

It went rightover your head what I was saying.

NO, I just get really tired of you conservatives blaming average working Americans for the Screwover your Corporate Masters inflict on us every day.

What in hell does your post have to do with doctors and healthcare, Joe?????
Get your ass handed to you and so you change the subject and move on to another point from your socialist bag of talking points?

You don't like people who are rich, I get that. I'm glad I live in a country where we can work hard and save money and be able to accumulate wealth.
You should have tried it instead of complaining that others are more successful than you in life. Quit your whining, son.

No, guy, you see, I didn't change the subject. The subject is, why have you guys turned what SHOULD be a public service into a consumer commodity to exploit people with.

Every other country has figured it out. Everyone gets health care, the government pays for it and controls cost.

Except this country, where it's a contest between Big Pharma, Big Insurance and Big Health Care as to which one can squeeze the most money out of consumers who work themselves into early graves.

 

[JoeB131]

You don't want your healthcare held hostage by an employer, but you're happy to have it held hostage by government.

Major difference.

I can vote teh government out if it isn't doing its job.

How's that working out with regards to your wishes on tax and labor?

Pretty fucking well, we voted out the GOP, and those things are getting better.

True, we haven't fixed everything Bush fucked up, that's going to take a very long time.

 

[dblack]

Major difference.

I can vote teh government out if it isn't doing its job.

How's that working out with regards to your wishes on tax and labor?

Pretty fucking well, we voted out the GOP, and those things are getting better.

True, we haven't fixed everything Bush fucked up, that's going to take a very long time.

'Specially with leaders intent on fucking it up even worse.

 

[JoeB131]

How's that working out with regards to your wishes on tax and labor?

Pretty fucking well, we voted out the GOP, and those things are getting better.

True, we haven't fixed everything Bush fucked up, that's going to take a very long time.

'Specially with leaders intent on fucking it up even worse.

you know what, guy. Every metric indicates we are better off in 2014 than we were in 2009, when Bush handed off a wrecked country to Obama.

Has Obama been a great president? Not really. Has he done well with a messed up situation he inherited? Yup.

 

[Harry Dresden]

NO, I just get really tired of you conservatives blaming average working Americans for the Screwover your Corporate Masters inflict on us every day.

What in hell does your post have to do with doctors and healthcare, Joe?????
Get your ass handed to you and so you change the subject and move on to another point from your socialist bag of talking points?

You don't like people who are rich, I get that. I'm glad I live in a country where we can work hard and save money and be able to accumulate wealth.
You should have tried it instead of complaining that others are more successful than you in life. Quit your whining, son.

No, guy, you see, I didn't change the subject. The subject is, why have you guys turned what SHOULD be a public service into a consumer commodity to exploit people with.

Every other country has figured it out. Everyone gets health care, the government pays for it and controls cost.

Except this country, where it's a contest between Big Pharma, Big Insurance and Big Health Care as to which one can squeeze the most money out of consumers who work themselves into early graves.

yes you did Joe.....you were saying a few posts back that if everyone had healthcare America gets healthier.....thats true ONLY to those who would actually go for regular check ups and do what they are told to do......you were countered with .....how many people right now have Ins. and either dont use it or wait until its to late or things are serious or use it but dont do what they are supposed to do anyway?....how many people right now without Ins. if they now have it will be any different?....

 

[dblack]

Pretty fucking well, we voted out the GOP, and those things are getting better.

True, we haven't fixed everything Bush fucked up, that's going to take a very long time.

'Specially with leaders intent on fucking it up even worse.

you know what, guy. Every metric indicates we are better off in 2014 than we were in 2009, when Bush handed off a wrecked country to Obama.

Has Obama been a great president? Not really. Has he done well with a messed up situation he inherited? Yup.

Metrics? What sort of metrics measure the explosive growth of the surveillance state? The NSA surveillance? The sellout of our health care to corporate whores?

Thing is, Joe, I actually had hope that when Obama was elected he might reverse the damage Bush did - and he hasn't. He's doubled down on every shitty thing Bush did.

 

[Harry Dresden]

'Specially with leaders intent on fucking it up even worse.

you know what, guy. Every metric indicates we are better off in 2014 than we were in 2009, when Bush handed off a wrecked country to Obama.

Has Obama been a great president? Not really. Has he done well with a messed up situation he inherited? Yup.

Metrics? What sort of metrics measure the explosive growth of the surveillance state? The NSA surveillance? The sellout of our health care to corporate whores?

Thing is, Joe, I actually had hope that when Obama was elected he might reverse the damage Bush did - and he hasn't. He's doubled down on every shitty thing Bush did.

he is also about as an effective a "leader" as Bush was.....basically BOTH were and are two piss poor "leaders"....

 

[JoeB131]

yes you did Joe.....you were saying a few posts back that if everyone had healthcare America gets healthier.....thats true ONLY to those who would actually go for regular check ups and do what they are told to do......you were countered with .....how many people right now have Ins. and either dont use it or wait until its to late or things are serious or use it but dont do what they are supposed to do anyway?....how many people right now without Ins. if they now have it will be any different?....

The problem with that theory is that you probably have, statistically, just as many Canadians or Germans who live unhealthy lifestyles or don't follow their doctor's advice.

The notion that "lifestyle" is an explainer is kind of silly. I think the fact that one out of four Americans either has no health coverage or health coverage that is so shitty they might as well be burning their money is a much bigger factor in why we have such crappy results.

We have people who literally have to choose between medicine and food. this really happens.

 

[asterism]

Major difference.

I can vote teh government out if it isn't doing its job.

How's that working out with regards to your wishes on tax and labor?

Pretty fucking well, we voted out the GOP, and those things are getting better.

True, we haven't fixed everything Bush fucked up, that's going to take a very long time.

Interesting.

Are unions stronger now than in 2009? Is the tax structure better in your opinion?

5 years is a long time to wait for a change in your individual healthcare situation. I don't understand why you don't see that.

 

[Meister]

NO, I just get really tired of you conservatives blaming average working Americans for the Screwover your Corporate Masters inflict on us every day.

What in hell does your post have to do with doctors and healthcare, Joe?????
Get your ass handed to you and so you change the subject and move on to another point from your socialist bag of talking points?

You don't like people who are rich, I get that. I'm glad I live in a country where we can work hard and save money and be able to accumulate wealth.
You should have tried it instead of complaining that others are more successful than you in life. Quit your whining, son.

No, guy, you see, I didn't change the subject. The subject is, why have you guys turned what SHOULD be a public service into a consumer commodity to exploit people with.

Every other country has figured it out. Everyone gets health care, the government pays for it and controls cost.

Except this country, where it's a contest between Big Pharma, Big Insurance and Big Health Care as to which one can squeeze the most money out of consumers who work themselves into early graves.

So the government pays for it????????? No, the people pay for it.
It ain't free dude, someone is paying for it and it ain't the government.
Those countries that have socialized healthcare are getting sub par services from it.
Long waits and rationed care in many areas of it......not to mention high tax rates and fees for those countries. But, a socialist like yourself will only see what he wants....your ideology is blinding you.

Too bad you didn't take advantage of what this great nation's liberties afforded you. Now you want others who did take advantage of the possibilities to subsidize you because of your lack of effort. That is pathetic....kind of parasitic if you think about it.

 

[Andylusion]

Guy, if you only made 18K last year, you are definitely siding with the wrong people.

I won't even talk abuot your taxes... obviously, you don't know what you are doing.

LOL! Perfect! Exactly what I expect from the self-righteous and arrogant left.

You sit there and claim to support the little people, self proclaimed supporters of the lower class.

Then the moment one of the lower class tells you how it really is, and tells you they don't support you, you start to mock them. Oh, I don't know what I'm doing. I'm just not as smart and brilliant as you arrogant leftards.

No sorry. Take your high horse crap, and jump off a cliff. Your the one that doesn't know what you are doing. You are the reason I have these taxes, to pay for your crap programs.

 

[Andylusion]

Major difference.

I can vote teh government out if it isn't doing its job.

How's that working out with regards to your wishes on tax and labor?

Pretty fucking well, we voted out the GOP, and those things are getting better.

True, we haven't fixed everything Bush fucked up, that's going to take a very long time.

Those things? Taxes are higher now, than before, on the lowest class of people. That's "better" in your world? We need to vote the GOP back in.

And by the way.... you and your children, and their children are going to have to pay back that $17 Trillion we now owe, thanks to your "things getting better" crap.

 

[Harry Dresden]

yes you did Joe.....you were saying a few posts back that if everyone had healthcare America gets healthier.....thats true ONLY to those who would actually go for regular check ups and do what they are told to do......you were countered with .....how many people right now have Ins. and either dont use it or wait until its to late or things are serious or use it but dont do what they are supposed to do anyway?....how many people right now without Ins. if they now have it will be any different?....

The problem with that theory is that you probably have, statistically, just as many Canadians or Germans who live unhealthy lifestyles or don't follow their doctor's advice.

The notion that "lifestyle" is an explainer is kind of silly. I think the fact that one out of four Americans either has no health coverage or health coverage that is so shitty they might as well be burning their money is a much bigger factor in why we have such crappy results.

We have people who literally have to choose between medicine and food. this really happens.

nice dance Joe......

 

[JoeB131]

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So the government pays for it????????? No, the people pay for it.
It ain't free dude, someone is paying for it and it ain't the government.
Those countries that have socialized healthcare are getting sub par services from it.
Long waits and rationed care in many areas of it......not to mention high tax rates and fees for those countries. But, a socialist like yourself will only see what he wants....your ideology is blinding you.

Too bad you didn't take advantage of what this great nation's liberties afforded you. Now you want others who did take advantage of the possibilities to subsidize you because of your lack of effort. That is pathetic....kind of parasitic if you think about it.

Yeah, sub-par service where they live longer and less of their babies die in the crib.

That kind of sub-par service. Oh, yeah, and they spend half per capita what we do and everyone is covered.

Oh, yeah, and the 1% who have 43% of the wealth didn't do 43 of the physical labor. By my reckoning, they got it ripping off the rest of us who did do the work. And that I support a system that makes sure that everyone gets their fair share, you can scream socialism all day, I call it common decency.

When the children of the rich have to go to the same hospitals and the same schools as the rest of us, that's when we fix the problems.

 

[JoeB131]

How's that working out with regards to your wishes on tax and labor?

Pretty fucking well, we voted out the GOP, and those things are getting better.

True, we haven't fixed everything Bush fucked up, that's going to take a very long time.

Those things? Taxes are higher now, than before, on the lowest class of people. That's "better" in your world? We need to vote the GOP back in.

And by the way.... you and your children, and their children are going to have to pay back that $17 Trillion we now owe, thanks to your "things getting better" crap.

Yes, we have to pay back all the money Bush gave to his rich cronies at the Banks and Halliburton, don't we?

But go back and whine about your $18,000 burger flipping job, guy.

 

[Meister]

Pretty fucking well, we voted out the GOP, and those things are getting better.

True, we haven't fixed everything Bush fucked up, that's going to take a very long time.

Those things? Taxes are higher now, than before, on the lowest class of people. That's "better" in your world? We need to vote the GOP back in.

And by the way.... you and your children, and their children are going to have to pay back that $17 Trillion we now owe, thanks to your "things getting better" crap.

Yes, we have to pay back all the money Bush gave to his rich cronies at the Banks and Halliburton, don't we?

But go back and whine about your $18,000 burger flipping job, guy.

You weren't whining when Clinton used Halliburton, were you? Of course you weren't.

 

[Meister]

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So the government pays for it????????? No, the people pay for it.
It ain't free dude, someone is paying for it and it ain't the government.
Those countries that have socialized healthcare are getting sub par services from it.
Long waits and rationed care in many areas of it......not to mention high tax rates and fees for those countries. But, a socialist like yourself will only see what he wants....your ideology is blinding you.

Too bad you didn't take advantage of what this great nation's liberties afforded you. Now you want others who did take advantage of the possibilities to subsidize you because of your lack of effort. That is pathetic....kind of parasitic if you think about it.

Yeah, sub-par service where they live longer and less of their babies die in the crib.

That kind of sub-par service. Oh, yeah, and they spend half per capita what we do and everyone is covered.

Oh, yeah, and the 1% who have 43% of the wealth didn't do 43 of the physical labor. By my reckoning, they got it ripping off the rest of us who did do the work. And that I support a system that makes sure that everyone gets their fair share, you can scream socialism all day, I call it common decency.

When the children of the rich have to go to the same hospitals and the same schools as the rest of us, that's when we fix the problems.

Just keep ignoring the facts, Joe.
At least you don't deny that you're a socialist. I give you credit for that.