Mandate moved back, LOL

[JoeB131]

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So the government pays for it????????? No, the people pay for it.
It ain't free dude, someone is paying for it and it ain't the government.
Those countries that have socialized healthcare are getting sub par services from it.
Long waits and rationed care in many areas of it......not to mention high tax rates and fees for those countries. But, a socialist like yourself will only see what he wants....your ideology is blinding you.

Too bad you didn't take advantage of what this great nation's liberties afforded you. Now you want others who did take advantage of the possibilities to subsidize you because of your lack of effort. That is pathetic....kind of parasitic if you think about it.

Yeah, sub-par service where they live longer and less of their babies die in the crib.

That kind of sub-par service. Oh, yeah, and they spend half per capita what we do and everyone is covered.

Oh, yeah, and the 1% who have 43% of the wealth didn't do 43 of the physical labor. By my reckoning, they got it ripping off the rest of us who did do the work. And that I support a system that makes sure that everyone gets their fair share, you can scream socialism all day, I call it common decency.

When the children of the rich have to go to the same hospitals and the same schools as the rest of us, that's when we fix the problems.

Just keep ignoring the facts, Joe.
At least you don't deny that you're a socialist. I give you credit for that.

I think you clowns have so rendered the word "Socialist" meaningless by bantering it around instead of engaging in meaningful debate.

So yes or no, should we let a child die of a treatable disease beause there is no profit to be made in treating her?

And if your answer involves, "Well, there are other ways of doing it", then you are as much a socialist as I am.

If your answer involves, "Hell, yeah!", I think you need to take a look at your values.

 

[JoeB131]

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You weren't whining when Clinton used Halliburton, were you? Of course you weren't.

Well, no, but under Clinton we weren't pissing away a trillion dollars trying to avenge Bush's Daddy.

 

[Meister]

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You weren't whining when Clinton used Halliburton, were you? Of course you weren't.

Well, no, but under Clinton we weren't pissing away a trillion dollars trying to avenge Bush's Daddy.

But, but, but big corporations????? You sound like a hypocrite.

 

[Meister]

Yeah, sub-par service where they live longer and less of their babies die in the crib.

That kind of sub-par service. Oh, yeah, and they spend half per capita what we do and everyone is covered.

Oh, yeah, and the 1% who have 43% of the wealth didn't do 43 of the physical labor. By my reckoning, they got it ripping off the rest of us who did do the work. And that I support a system that makes sure that everyone gets their fair share, you can scream socialism all day, I call it common decency.

When the children of the rich have to go to the same hospitals and the same schools as the rest of us, that's when we fix the problems.

Just keep ignoring the facts, Joe.
At least you don't deny that you're a socialist. I give you credit for that.

I think you clowns have so rendered the word "Socialist" meaningless by bantering it around instead of engaging in meaningful debate.

So yes or no, should we let a child die of a treatable disease beause there is no profit to be made in treating her?

And if your answer involves, "Well, there are other ways of doing it", then you are as much a socialist as I am.

If your answer involves, "Hell, yeah!", I think you need to take a look at your values.

You are for the redistribution of wealth.
We have safety nets for those who need the care, Joe, despite what your echo chamber tells you. Nobody wants to take that away from them. At the end of the day with obummercare there will roughly the same amount of people without coverage.
And, no I am not a socialist like you. I want as much government out of my life as I can (that doesn't mean entirely). You want more government in your life as possible, I can only assume you can't take care of yourself.

 

[JoeB131]

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You weren't whining when Clinton used Halliburton, were you? Of course you weren't.

Well, no, but under Clinton we weren't pissing away a trillion dollars trying to avenge Bush's Daddy.

But, but, but big corporations????? You sound like a hypocrite.

No, I just have something called "Perspective".

I don't have a problem with using contractors to do service and support work rather than conscripting people to do it. We've done that all through our history.

I do have a big problem when that contractor puts it's man (Cheney) in the White House, and he lobbies for a war where his former company profits.

It's really "Crony Capitalism", dude...

 

[asterism]

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You weren't whining when Clinton used Halliburton, were you? Of course you weren't.

Well, no, but under Clinton we weren't pissing away a trillion dollars trying to avenge Bush's Daddy.

True. That money was used to wag the dog to distract people away from a massive lie about a blowjob. Did you know that Clinton actually signed a law calling for the removal of Saddam Hussein?

 

[JoeB131]

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You are for the redistribution of wealth.
We have safety nets for those who need the care, Joe, despite what your echo chamber tells you. Nobody wants to take that away from them. At the end of the day with obummercare there will roughly the same amount of people without coverage.
And, no I am not a socialist like you. I want as much government out of my life as I can (that doesn't mean entirely). You want more government in your life as possible, I can only assume you can't take care of yourself.

Guy, the only time I took anything from the GOvernment is when I was in the US Army defending it so miserable greedy cocksuckers could make a profit.

The "Safety Nets" are inadequate. Even Republicans have admitted this.

And, yes, I think that when you have 1% of the population with 43% of the wealth, the wealth needs to be redistributed, especially if very basic needs are not being met.

Now, if you want to complain that the welfare system has a lot of problems, I agree, it does. Unfortunately, the reason why you have such a large welfare state is that the wealthy made this promise if you cut their taxes and deregulated their industries, prosperity would follow.

It didn't.

 

[Meister]

Well, no, but under Clinton we weren't pissing away a trillion dollars trying to avenge Bush's Daddy.

But, but, but big corporations????? You sound like a hypocrite.

No, I just have something called "Perspective".

I don't have a problem with using contractors to do service and support work rather than conscripting people to do it. We've done that all through our history.

I do have a big problem when that contractor puts it's man (Cheney) in the White House, and he lobbies for a war where his former company profits.

It's really "Crony Capitalism", dude...

Do you care to comment on Obama's "cronies"? Or, throwing billions at his donors companies is any different, "dude"? See, if you look at it with perspective....you really are a hypocrite.

 

[JoeB131]

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You weren't whining when Clinton used Halliburton, were you? Of course you weren't.

Well, no, but under Clinton we weren't pissing away a trillion dollars trying to avenge Bush's Daddy.

True. That money was used to wag the dog to distract people away from a massive lie about a blowjob. Did you know that Clinton actually signed a law calling for the removal of Saddam Hussein?

Which one was that, now?

Was that the one where he tried to go after that guy, oh, what was his name, "Bin Laden" or something like that and GOP Republicans all screamed he was "wagging the dog".

Honestly, I wish for a time when the worst thing we had to worry about was whether the President was getting a blow job.

 

[JoeB131]

But, but, but big corporations????? You sound like a hypocrite.

No, I just have something called "Perspective".

I don't have a problem with using contractors to do service and support work rather than conscripting people to do it. We've done that all through our history.

I do have a big problem when that contractor puts it's man (Cheney) in the White House, and he lobbies for a war where his former company profits.

It's really "Crony Capitalism", dude...

Do you care to comment on Obama's "cronies"? Or, throwing billions at his donors companies is any different, "dude"? See, if you look at it with perspective....you really are a hypocrite.

Did anyone die because his "cronies" made money?

 

[Meister]

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You are for the redistribution of wealth.
We have safety nets for those who need the care, Joe, despite what your echo chamber tells you. Nobody wants to take that away from them. At the end of the day with obummercare there will roughly the same amount of people without coverage.
And, no I am not a socialist like you. I want as much government out of my life as I can (that doesn't mean entirely). You want more government in your life as possible, I can only assume you can't take care of yourself.

Guy, the only time I took anything from the GOvernment is when I was in the US Army defending it so miserable greedy cocksuckers could make a profit.

The "Safety Nets" are inadequate. Even Republicans have admitted this.

And, yes, I think that when you have 1% of the population with 43% of the wealth, the wealth needs to be redistributed, especially if very basic needs are not being met.

Now, if you want to complain that the welfare system has a lot of problems, I agree, it does. Unfortunately, the reason why you have such a large welfare state is that the wealthy made this promise if you cut their taxes and deregulated their industries, prosperity would follow.

It didn't.

Our government over regulates industries, sorry you can't see that. Over regulates to the point where it screws with our economy....as you have seen under your messiah.
The 1% pay plenty in their taxes, in fact by far the lion's share....it's just not enough for you and your ilk. You have a disdain for the wealthy while it should be an incentive to you but, it isn't. You just want to eliminate the wealthy and have low and middle class of people who have to depend on the government. You think Pelosi and Boxer would ever give up their wealth??????? Of course not and it won't happen, the elite will always be the elite, it's just that the government will make it where nobody else will be able to attain wealth.

 

[Meister]

No, I just have something called "Perspective".

I don't have a problem with using contractors to do service and support work rather than conscripting people to do it. We've done that all through our history.

I do have a big problem when that contractor puts it's man (Cheney) in the White House, and he lobbies for a war where his former company profits.

It's really "Crony Capitalism", dude...

Do you care to comment on Obama's "cronies"? Or, throwing billions at his donors companies is any different, "dude"? See, if you look at it with perspective....you really are a hypocrite.

Did anyone die because his "cronies" made money?

You are PATHETIC! Why are you moving the goal posts dude? Because you can't admit it???? Hypocrite
I'm done with your bullshit. Just be thankful you weren't in Jonestown, you would be a willing dupe.

 

[JoeB131]

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Our government over regulates industries, sorry you can't see that. Over regulates to the point where it screws with our economy....as you have seen under your messiah.
The 1% pay plenty in their taxes, in fact by far the lion's share....it's just not enough for you and your ilk. You have a disdain for the wealthy while it should be an incentive to you but, it isn't. You just want to eliminate the wealthy and have low and middle class of people who have to depend on the government. You think Pelosi and Boxer would ever give up their wealth??????? Of course not and it won't happen, the elite will always be the elite, it's just that the government will make it where nobody else will be able to attain wealth.

Sorry, dude, what I saw happen was the economy got screwed with because conservatives insisted repealling all the regulations that were put on banking and investment after the Great Depression was a good idea. Instead, we got a reminder of why they were put there to start with.

And, no, sorry, the country ran a lot better when the rich paid a lot more than they do now.

Under that Commie bastard Eisenhower, the top rate was 93%. We did just fine.

I do find the bolded sentence to be interesting. It's the cry of every Conservative who thinks that if he prays to St. Ayn of Rand hard enough, and is enough of a dick to his fellows, he too can be rich, if the government doesn't stop him.

 

[JoeB131]

Do you care to comment on Obama's "cronies"? Or, throwing billions at his donors companies is any different, "dude"? See, if you look at it with perspective....you really are a hypocrite.

Did anyone die because his "cronies" made money?

You are PATHETIC! Why are you moving the goal posts dude? Because you can't admit it???? Hypocrite
I'm done with your bullshit. Just be thankful you weren't in Jonestown, you would be a willing dupe.

Dude, it was a valid question.

In addition to those who died in the war, there wre those who died because of faulty wiring that Halliburton put in or contaminated water Halliburton didn't purify correctly.

 

[oreo]

No, I just have something called "Perspective".

I don't have a problem with using contractors to do service and support work rather than conscripting people to do it. We've done that all through our history.

I do have a big problem when that contractor puts it's man (Cheney) in the White House, and he lobbies for a war where his former company profits.

It's really "Crony Capitalism", dude...

Do you care to comment on Obama's "cronies"? Or, throwing billions at his donors companies is any different, "dude"? See, if you look at it with perspective....you really are a hypocrite.

Did anyone die because his "cronies" made money?

Look Boooosh is no longer the President and he hasn't been for the last 6 years.

Obama has a 6 year real record--and his record SUCKS. Get over it. He has spent a ton of taxpayer dollars--that (went to large donors of his campaign) on green energy Solyndra--that flopped leaving us holding the bag. He made up a lot of bull shit about some video that caused the death of 4 Americans in Bengazi. He borrowed and spent 878 Billion dollars on the "Jobs recovery" Act--promising that it would create millions of jobs--and 6 years later We Have No Jobs.

Now Obama is threatening business's in this country--that if they lay off someone or cut their hours--the IRS will be breathing down their necks. What business is going to expand their business and hire more employees knowing that?

Now Obama has postponed the employer mandate AGAIN- until 2016-because our community organizer President--finally realized it will cost millions of jobs in this country--as employers will either cut back hours to no more than 29 hours per week--or simply just start laying off workers.

This is the guy you voted for twice. Don't blame it on G.W. Bush--he didn't push that button for you. YOU did it.

Welcome to your hope and change!

 

[JoeB131]

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Look Boooosh is no longer the President and he hasn't been for the last 6 years.

Obama has a 6 year real record--and his record SUCKS. Get over it. He has spent a ton of taxpayer dollars--that (went to large donors of his campaign) on green energy Solyndra--that flopped leaving us holding the bag. He made up a lot of bull shit about some video that caused the death of 4 Americans in Bengazi. He borrowed and spent 878 Billion dollars on the "Jobs recovery" Act--promising that it would create millions of jobs--and 6 years later We Have No Jobs.

Now Obama is threatening business's in this country--that if they lay off someone or cut their hours--the IRS will be breathing down their necks. What business is going to expand their business and hire more employees knowing that?

Now Obama has postponed the employer mandate AGAIN- until 2016-because our community organizer President--finally realized it will cost millions of jobs in this country--as employers will either cut back hours to no more than 29 hours per week--or simply just start laying off workers.

This is the guy you voted for twice. Don't blame it on G.W. Bush--he didn't push that button for you. YOU did it.

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THis isn't the guy I voted for twice, I only voted for him in 2012 because you dumb shits nominated a Mormon.

Also, for all the whining about pushing back the mandate, you have to realize just how few businesses it actually effects. 91% of businesses with 50-199 Employees and 99% of businesses with 200 employees or more ALREADY provide health coverage. So we aren't really talking abuot "Millions" of jobs.

As for the IRS, they are making sure that ObamaCare doesn't become the Dog that Ate Everyone's Homework.

"Well, I got to lay 10 of you off because of ObamaCare!"

"Hey, isn't that a new Lamborghini you just bought, Boss?"